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please link all good posts by getfiscal here or elsewhere, itt, for a project where i collect all of them into an Alt Lit manuscript. the rule against posting SA thread links without quotes is lifted for this thread because i am buying an account again with archives and search getfiscal has asked that haters vacate so that is also in effect.

edit: also link good getfiscal tweets thanks.

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Mike Nelson here.
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the money will go to daddyholes and my niece because i find this embarrassing but i'm also willing to commodify my brand because why not really. i mean if i can get an HBO comedy special out of it or something it won't have been a waste. thanks daddyholes.
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just imagine that i know how to post a link to gf's entire posting history and that i did so and it was this post
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TG posted:

just imagine that i know how to post a link to gf's entire posting history and that i did so and it was this post



find some good posts and link those.

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Poronto
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donald dig out that thing you posted on fb about how you convinced a welfare mom and her 50 children to get jobs stacking pants at the mall and an eagle started crying and stuff, i was looking for it the other day and didn't manage to find it before realizing i might have to end up explaining why i was obsessively stalking your profile and not, say, an ex girlfriend or something
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tardy on these heaters
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i have discovered the Best Getfiscal Post and am offering it to the highest bidder
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glad 2 help http://www.rhizzone.net/forum/post/242978/
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getfiscal posted:

the money will go to daddyholes and my niece because i find this embarrassing but i'm also willing to commodify my brand because why not really. i mean if i can get an HBO comedy special out of it or something it won't have been a waste. thanks daddyholes.



do you think of yourself as the white bruce bruce or the bald ralphie may

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i support this project 100% and by support i mean will contribute nothing to it
#10
Dont Mess With Sucess
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I cant remember any sorry
#11
Dont Mess With Sucess
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Maybe you should just order them in order of length because i think the longer ones have the most words in them, and when your justifying incrementalism all the time, quantity of argument is wayy more important
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Mike Nelson here.
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littlegreenpills posted:

donald dig out that thing you posted on fb about how you convinced a welfare mom and her 50 children to get jobs stacking pants at the mall and an eagle started crying and stuff, i was looking for it the other day and didn't manage to find it before realizing i might have to end up explaining why i was obsessively stalking your profile and not, say, an ex girlfriend or something

i can't remember what you mean but "stacking pants at the mall" is a reference to doug stanhope so that was me.

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Kurdt
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does ne1 have the post about turning SA into a revolutionary cell
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tardy on these heaters
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swampman posted:

Maybe you should just order them in order of length because i think the longer ones have the most words in them, and when your justifying incrementalism all the time, quantity of argument is wayy more important



like the quran

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getfiscal has given me visibility on his posts on the Facebook platform. thank you for the suggestions so far and keep them coming. this weekend i will set up a document system and start cataloging posts.
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Mike Nelson here.
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gyrofry posted:

does ne1 have the post about turning SA into a revolutionary cell

someone copy-pasted it in the OP of this thread:

http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3020250

probably not hard to find the original thread from that.

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Kurdt
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yup, here we go: http://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3019908
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buy me archives
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well buy me an sa acct then archives
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EmanuelaOrlandi posted:

well buy me an sa acct then archives



if you will seriously help me do this i will do that, or you can punk me for it, whichever.

#21
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*monocle and top hat forcibly grow out of skull*
#22
Not Your S.H.I.E.L.D.
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karphead posted:

i support this project 100% and by support i mean will contribute nothing to it



i also support this project 100% and by support i also mean i will not actively sabotage it with my mere but inevitably disastrous participation, also

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i think a bhpn collection would sell better
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getfiscal please migrate from eregeime to ejunta posthaste ----> http://z13.invisionfree.com/ejunta/index.php?showtopic=252&view=findpost&p=22106351
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Mike Nelson here.
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Panopticon posted:

getfiscal please migrate from eregeime to ejunta posthaste ----> http://z13.invisionfree.com/ejunta/index.php?showtopic=252&view=findpost&p=22106351

i don't play games on either i just talk to ismail online. i don't want to get involved in internet stuff.

#26
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i've decided i'm not hiring anonymous pizza anarchists to do anything. this won't take more than one person.
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Where two or three pizzas are gathered in my name, there am I in their midst.
#28
Mike Nelson here.
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i just had a bunch of pizza. it was so good. thin multigrain crust meat supreme. god bless you all.
#29
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this is a breeze to edit as getfiscal is extremely respectful to the prophet muhammad صلى الله عليه وسلم‎ and to indeed all those mentioned in the Holy Koran, with suspicious accuracy.
#30
corey "of "fail aids" fame"
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THREAD REVERSAL: ban getfiscal as im sick of looking at his post's and i suspect hes not always beieng sincere
#31
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there are some khrushchevites and brezhnevites still around. soviet empire and rhizzone are their stomping grounds but there's also some on tumblr.
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remember the time getfiscal posted that laclau and mouffe killed marxism and social democracy made up of SJW identity groups magically working together is the future? oh wait thats every post
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just kidding we love u getfiscal
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how valid is my initial instinct to assume krush was a revisionist?
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the stuff about falling over yourself to denounce historical, faraway revisionism is like the modern impulse to fall over yourself to denounce foreign, faraway Dictators. Who gives a shit. Are we currently holding political power over a bloc of middle-income, industrializing nations? No? We dont even have a broad, mass movement to seize power in the first place. Then why concern yourself with moralistic historical denunciations, and instead investigate and discredit the loaded anticommunist received wisdom that only grows stronger by the day?

everyone knows Khrushchev fucked up. He was unanimously ejected from power. He probably had Stalin poisoned, too. Denouncing unreliable communist leaders from 60 years ago is not going to help you organize in an era of darkest reaction, on the other side of the world
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what would you say are some good books/whatever that cover that era of soviet history?
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Mike Nelson here.
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Crow posted:

the stuff about falling over yourself to denounce historical, faraway revisionism is like the modern impulse to fall over yourself to denounce foreign, faraway Dictators. Who gives a shit. Are we currently holding political power over a bloc of middle-income, industrializing nations? No? We dont even have a broad, mass movement to seize power in the first place. Then why concern yourself with moralistic historical denunciations, and instead investigate and discredit the loaded anticommunist received wisdom that only grows stronger by the day?

everyone knows Khrushchev fucked up. He was unanimously ejected from power. He probably had Stalin poisoned, too. Denouncing unreliable communist leaders from 60 years ago is not going to help you organize in an era of darkest reaction, on the other side of the world

wow

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Kurdt
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the answer as always to revisionism is: phone bank
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hm I guess it depends. There are some good 'revisionist' Western historians (revisionist as in revising the then-dominant theory of 'totalitarianism' in the anglosphere) like J. Arch Getty, Sheila Fitzpatrick, etc. I mean you have to keep in mind they're better than spook blowhards like Conquest, but it doesn't mean the framework they use isn't bourgeois and generally anticommunist, theyre just much more honest and back their work with much more concrete data. perhaps the apotheosis of this 'revisionist' school is oleg khlevniuk and grover furr. Yeah that's right grover furr.

khlevniuk is a senior researcher of the state archive of the Russian Federation, which, lets be real, is at once the best and the worst source to rely on for the Soviet period. Like, yes, they have a wealth of information, but you got to realize the Russian Federation basis its tenuous legitimacy on anticommunism, and there has been some Russian-language writers and researchers who have built some powerful cases pointing out sloppy (and not-so-sloppy) fabrications which were 'released from the archives' to maximize anti-Sovietism during the Glasnost period, the seizure of power by Yeltsin, and later Putin's administration. Much of that stuff is of course centered around the 'Stalin' and early Soviet period, though, but it's Khlevniuk's area of expertise. Dmitri Volkogonov (former head of the Soviet military's psychological warfare department and one of Yeltsin's righthand men after the collapse) is the most egregious example of this weaponized historical propaganda, and he basically had free reign to spread anticommunist propaganda from Glasnost on. Anyway, khlevniuk is no opportunist head of military psyops, but the general form of 'archivist researcher' is certainly weaponized anticommunism. That said, his research is rather meticulous and relies very heavily on concrete evidence, so beside these caveats, he's the best 'Soviet archives' historian you'll likely find published in the english language.

likewise, grover furr relies on much of the same 'revisionist' historical school anchored in archival evidence. dealing with a heavy, extremely pervasive anticommunist hysteria in the West, he himself sometimes takes a huge partisan tone. supposedly this is unbecoming of a bourgeois historian. i couldnt give less of a shit, i've had enough contact with 'respectable' racist and orientalist attitudes from academics to see the use of some red, rabblerousing polemics. otherwise, the biggest and most substantive complaint about furr seems to be that he reads his evidence 'too generously' or 'inserts his own conclusions inbetween the lines', which is exactly what these 'revisionist' historians do in the first place, although furr drops the annoying, liberal faux-objective voice. anyway hes better than most

more general-overview type stuff you could find that straddle the line between this 'revisionist' (bourgeois) school and more substantive analysis would be things like Martin/Hirsch on questions of Soviet ethnic policy, Slaveski on the aftermath of World War 2 in Soviet Occupied Germany, Allen on Soviet industrialization, Szymanski on Soviet political/economic structure and human rights, and Grey/Roberts on Stalin. Szymanski in particular I've found useful in dispelling a chauvinist anticommunism geared towards the USSR, both of his books are available for free online (I've linked it).

ultimately the best thing you can do is to read primary sources, yourself (preferably in Russian lol). you can get a shitload of some Good shit memoirs to paint a really vivid, infinitely better picture of life in the USSR. red army memoirs are some Insanely good Content and go far in dispelling racist myths about the USSR, i like Obryn'ba and Abdulin for that. High level communists also write some good memoirs, i recommend Shepilov and Molotov. Hmm lets see lets see. Oh also Sloan's book on soviet democracy, and uh you should also let the bolsheviks speak for themselves: History of the All-Union Communist Party (Bolsheviks) Short Course.

e: the Webbs' Soviet Communism: A New Civilization has a hole sh*tload of information.

Sorry i kinda ran out of steam at the end there because this post took me forever to make. anyhow heres the list:

Soviet Communism: A New Civilization?
by Sidney Webb, Beatrice Webb

Soviet Democracy
by Pat Sloan

Farm to Factory: A Reinterpretation of the Soviet Industrial Revolution (Princeton Economic History of the Western World)
by Robert C. Allen

Stalin, Man of History
by Ian Grey

The Soviet Occupation of Germany: Hunger, Mass Violence and the Struggle for Peace, 1945-1947
by Filip Slaveski

Stalin's Wars: From World War to Cold War, 1939-1953
by Geoffrey Roberts

Master of the House: Stalin and His Inner Circle (The Yale-Hoover Series on Stalin, Stalinism, and the Cold War)
by Oleg V. Khlevniuk, Nora Seligman Favorov

The History of the Gulag: From Collectivization to the Great Terror (Annals of Communism Series)
by Oleg V. Khlevniuk, Vadim A. Staklo

Cold Peace: Stalin and the Soviet Ruling Circle, 1945-1953
by Yoram Gorlizki, Oleg Khlevniuk

Everyday Stalinism: Ordinary Life in Extraordinary Times: Soviet Russia in the 1930s
by Sheila Fitzpatrick

The Affirmative Action Empire: Nations and Nationalism in the Soviet Union, 1923-1939 (The Wilder House Series in

Politics, History and Culture)
by Terry Martin

Empire of Nations: Ethnographic Knowledge and the Making of the Soviet Union (Culture and Society after Socialism)
by Francine Hirsch

Socialism Betrayed: Behind the Collapse of the Soviet Union
by Roger Keeran, Thomas Kenny

Is the Red Flag Flying?: The Political Economy of the Soviet Union (Imperialism series)
by Albert Szymanski
https://archive.org/details/IsTheRedFlagFlying

Human Rights in the Soviet Union
by Albert Szymanski
https://archive.org/details/HumanRightsInTheSovietUnion

The Murder of Sergei Kirov: History, Scholarship and the Anti-Stalin Paradigm
by Grover Furr

Red Partisan: Memoirs of a Soviet Resistance Fighter on the Eastern Front
by Nikolai I. Obryn'ba

Red Road From Stalingrad: Recollections Of A Soviet Infantryman
by Mansur Abdulin

The Kremlin's Scholar: A Memoir of Soviet Politics Under Stalin and Khrushchev
by Dmitrii Shepilov

Molotov Remembers
By V. M. Molotov,Feliz Chuev

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