NEOADMINISTRATOR posted:chickeon posted:RescueCreditor posted:It's behind a paywall, and not worth reading, but the title and byline of this editorial was enough for me to chortle:
just as an aside you can get around the star's paythinger really easily by using the Inspect Element functionality of your browser and deleting frames that have to do with overlay and syncronex something something, if you find yourself wanting to Read More Crap for whatever reason
this is what i do too fwiw. you can probably google the exact code to do this for the star if you care.
it doesnt always work though, theyve gotten smarter about hiding the overlay
Anyway so one of the main pieces of 'evidence' that was released by Ukrainian Interior Ministry and picked up by western media, even referred to by John Kerry on Meet The Press as damning has been easily debunked. Apparently it showed a Buk missile truck "heading back to Russia" (lol) but a bunch of bloggers & Russian news agencies were able to pinpoint the actual road the video took place in, and it was in Krasnoarmiysk which has been under Ukrainian army control since May.
Also, the billboard it clearly passes by is a Krasnoarmiysk car dealership billboard. lol
http://www.globalresearch.ca/key-piece-of-video-evidence-for-russian-responsibility-for-malaysian-plane-shootdown-debunked/5392624
*Heads back to russia*
Petrol posted:
babyfinland posted:thats horrible
hey man thats not entirely fair, sometimes the daily mail has decent articles
chickeon posted:RescueCreditor posted:It's behind a paywall, and not worth reading, but the title and byline of this editorial was enough for me to chortle:
just as an aside you can get around the star's paythinger really easily by using the Inspect Element functionality of your browser and deleting frames that have to do with overlay and syncronex something something, if you find yourself wanting to Read More Crap for whatever reason
dont do this. hacking is illeagle
Crow posted:
haha Fuck.
Hitler posted:i guess svoboda and udar are dropping out of the coalition? anyone know whats up with that
http://nsnbc.me/2014/07/25/ukraines-pm-yatzenyuk-resigns-amidst-pressures-exerted-by-the-imf/
daddyholes posted:rockets lol
Panopticon posted:what exactly is the israeli view of the official status of palestine, is it terra nullius or do they just not address it
it doesn't exist, there are parts of israel in which the government has allowed a non-state organization to perform some administrative duties
http://www.goisrael.de/Tourism_Ger/Tourist%20Information/Discover%20Israel/Documents/MapOfIsrael1.pdf
Actually nevermind, I'm more interested in the Russia thing
But yeah who cares, these are just legal knots that Israel has to tie itself into in order to describe reality according to itself
If not, then it seems like the government would be responsible for them, given that they would be part of the Israeli state. If it's responsible for them, then are they supposed to become full citizens at some point? or is citizenship gradated in Israel, with this particular population holding an explicitly lesser status? What's the long term goal for this population?
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Lykourgos posted:What's the long term goal for this population?
Lykourgos posted:So Israel wants them all to leave the country then, right? Have they started deportation proceedings?
If not, then it seems like the government would be responsible for them, given that they would be part of the Israeli state. If it's responsible for them, then are they supposed to become full citizens at some point? or is citizenship gradated in Israel, with this particular population holding an explicitly lesser status? What's the long term goal for this population?
They were given the opportunity to relocate in 1947 so its not really isreals problem now.
swampman posted:They were given the opportunity to relocate in 1947 so its not really isreals problem now.
It is Israel's problem if Israel is saying that the area constituting Palestine is within Israel's borders. Is the Israeli state using Palestine as an experiment in anarchism or local, grass-roots governance? If not, then I'm not clear on what Israel is trying to achieve with this area of its territory.
What's the government's plan for that land? Is it deporting the people or absorbing them into the state? Or is it a middle of the road option, whereby they're foreigners welcome for a certain number of years, but then instructed to leave? If so, has the government passed laws delineating the length of time and conditions of their immigration? How will the state host these people in the meantime, or is it just a stop gap until the final deportation? Have they picked a deportation destination yet? It's been a while, no?
If they're being incorporated into the state on a permanent basis, what is their proposed status? Full citizenship on equal footing with other members of the state, or something different? Perhaps, full rights to work and receive benefits in certain parts of the country, but not others? Has this been codified yet (if it is indeed the plan, which it might not be)?
It's so confusing, has the Israeli government issued any brief explanation of what their plans are for Palestine and the people who live in that region, and how they're working towards that future vision?
drwhat posted:But yeah who cares, these are just legal knots that Israel has to tie itself into in order to describe reality according to itself
It's an important question, not just a legal knot. The government must have some opinions on how it would like to see the land develop over time. If it's being used as a refugee camp, how long does the state plan to keep it as a refugee camp? When will it clear the area out, and where will the people go? It's been decades, so they must have some theories on how to empty out Palestine; if they've decided, then they'll no doubt make an official announcement, anybody have a link?
If they don't want to remove everyone, then they either plan to incorporate them into society, kill them all, or they haven't made their mind up. The last point seems unlikely given how much time has passed, so what are the major ideas approved by the government? Isn't there an official statement on any of the government webpages or politicians' campaigns? Like, "we plan to improve facilities in Palestine, teach people about being jewish and welcome everyone in the future into the future-Israeli theocratic utopia" or "we plan to starve them out until they pass away or leave of their own accord". Whichever. Just curious what the method and goals being talked about are.
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http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2014/07/30/pers-j30.html
"Are you ready for war-including possibly nuclear war—between the United States, Europe, and Russia? That is the question that everyone should be asking him- or herself in light of the developments since the destruction of Malaysian Airlines Flight MH17"
Creating Russian “Blackwater” - Fighting Fire with Fire: “President Vladimir Putin sees private security companies as an effective "tool for the enforcement of national interests without direct interference of the state"... The authors of the draft make no bones about it, where they see a first application for Russian mercenary units: in Ukraine."
MPs and military in Moscow are working on a bill that provides for unrest in Russia's neighboring countries. The working group is preparing to establish private security firms. A "Russian Black Water" is mentioned, in reference to the mercenaries of the notorious U.S. company Blackwater - now renamed Academi.
The Russian parliament will decide in the autumn on the initiative. The support of the Kremlin is considered safe. President Vladimir Putin sees private security companies as an effective "tool for the enforcement of national interests without direct interference of the state".
The security companies will step in, "if the use of regular armed forces is politically or legally difficult," says the bill. The projected employees of the plans are composed mainly of former military officers and soldiers of the elite unit "Spetsnaz". The supervision of the company should the responsibility of the FSB.
The authors of the draft make no bones about it, where they see a first application for Russian mercenary units: in Ukraine. The West supported the Ukrainian army with private security companies in the fight against the pro-Russian separatists that Russia must, however, keep.
The rebels in eastern Ukraine pursue the Russian initiative with great interest. "This will be a good way to help us," said the separatists functionary Denis Pischulin SPIEGEL ONLINE. In the Caucasus, the mercenaries could replace regular Russian soldiers, such as the separatists States Abkhazia and South Ossetia.
However, the services of the Russians could be in demand in more remote regions of the world. In the Libyan civil war about the former dictator Muammar Gaddafi Ukrainian and Russian military experts hired for the fight against insurgents on their own.
Moscow follows these plans jon an American model. For years Washington uses private security companies in conflict zones all over the world. In Latin America, they fight the narcotics trade on behalf of the U.S. government. In Abu Dhabi they protect the royal family.
First of all operations in Iraq, the industry was brought into disrepute. Blackwater was responsible for beatings and shootings of civilians. The incidents were revealed only through publications of WikiLeaks.
http://www.spiegel.de/politik/ausland/russland-kreml-plant-privatarmee-nach-dem-vorbild-blackwater-a-982559.html
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Crow posted:
holy shit who is this idiot and how did she get this job?
Crow posted:
that guy owns and is always doing this
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