#121

discipline posted:

chances of BHPN and COINTELBRO both posting separately from Korea: probably nil



COINTELBRO is me o_O. that is realy weird lol

#122
I am both bippy and dongs
#123
the IP's dont lie bro
#124
uh oh, need to sort this out *puts back on Stalin jacket with a sigh*
#125
I'm all of the bad posters
#126

xipe posted:

Ireland passedgay marriage by popular vote and the left & working class were fully behind it

We'll see what it means for the other ongoing struggles, but im hopeful


#127

Gssh posted:

xipe posted:

Ireland passedgay marriage by popular vote and the left & working class were fully behind it

We'll see what it means for the other ongoing struggles, but im hopeful





yep, i'll be looking at assistance lent to the abortion rights campaign and more energisation & focus for the housing, water and general anti-austerity campaigns.

also see what happens to bougie ngos like GLEN

#128
i'm mustang, maggotmaster, and the pink ninja guy, but im smart enough to use proxies
#129
[account deactivated]
#130

aerdil posted:

i'm mustang, maggotmaster, and the pink ninja guy, but im smart enough to use proxies



im gay

#131

swirlsofhistory posted:

Oh nm it's probably your reddit account. I've seen gross names get lots of upvotes in the comments on the frontpage, maybe that was what you were going for here?



#132

discipline posted:

stegosaurus posted:

the IP's dont lie bro

yah the one who openly says he's in korea masks his IP and the other who says nothing about it does not hmmm

you think this is revelatory, wait until you discover that you are me

#133
crow, me and getfiscal are different posting personas of the same person trying to get in stego's pants
#134

Urbandale posted:

i am not saying that the CIA isnt an integral aspect of the ability of the US to project its power. but what i am saying is that there is a reason its using the very inexpensive (in manpower, due to presunk costs into NGOs in the country and domestic NGOs funding them, like the AFL-CIO's international committee) methods they are using and not the military option. the strongarm military doesnt work and hasnt for decades.



the US military works perfectly well if you know that its actually a massive money laundering scheme and drug corridor security force. Its goal is not to "conquer" countries or "win" "wars"

#135
nice empire erasure
#136

discipline posted:

chances of BHPN and COINTELBRO both posting separately from Korea: probably nil

wait wait wait... are you telling me that both the best posters on this forum are huey?

#137
chears,
#138
http://www.bbc.com/news/blogs-trending-33313807
#139
lol at anyone seriously engaging baby newton about gay people
#140
tho i guess it makes sense if you're a catholic, since the official line of the catholic church is basically that cointelbro post
#141

c_man posted:

lol at anyone seriously engaging baby newton about gay people

fuck offward

#142

c_man posted:

tho i guess it makes sense if you're a catholic, since the official line of the catholic church is basically that cointelbro post



nope

#143
im pretty sure homosex is right up there with contraception in the "culture of death" that i was always inveighed to battle with all my might, maybe the Cool Pope says gay sex is cool now but i havent paid attention since i haven't been forced to
#144
please, explain to me what the catholic church has decided, instead of gay people needing to be forcefully combated to save our holy souls

e: i mean idk where you go to mass but that's what we got in mass and confirmation class and its not like the catholic church is that decentralized

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#145
teh butt sex0r is equally sinful whether done unto man or woman. sex is for procreation and if u jerk off it's murder.
#146
now all we need is iwc to rise from his grave and start going on about how contraception is genocide on black people
#147
edit button. USE IT.
#148
#149

c_man posted:

im pretty sure homosex is right up there with contraception in the "culture of death" that i was always inveighed to battle with all my might, maybe the Cool Pope says gay sex is cool now but i havent paid attention since i haven't been forced to



whatever you're talking about is still not some sadistic shit about how gay bashing secures the manhood of a bunch of horn-rimmed white commie dorks

#150
#151

c_man posted:

im pretty sure homosex is right up there with contraception in the "culture of death" that i was always inveighed to battle with all my might, maybe the Cool Pope says gay sex is cool now but i havent paid attention since i haven't been forced to



IRL, I have never heard the term 'culture of death' being used regarding homosexuality specifically, let alone as one of its major manifestations. And I have known pretty much the full spectrum of Catholics in my area, from Catholic Worker veterans in DC to a shut-in nonegenerian whose son became a priest of the SSPX. Even the most hard-line appear to treat it as a different issue. I can cede though that your experience may have varied, because in fact the Church is pretty "decentralized" in practice.
If we are talking about official lines, contrary to certain secondary sources out there, what your saying doesn't correspond to how the "culture of death" is used by the Vatican's formal documents. Here are the parts of Evangelium Vitae in which definitions of the phrase are provided:

This reality is characterized by the emergence of a culture which denies solidarity and in many cases takes the form of a veritable "culture of death". This culture is actively fostered by powerful cultural, economic and political currents which encourage an idea of society excessively concerned with efficiency. Looking at the situation from this point of view, it is possible to speak in a certain sense of a war of the powerful against the weak: a life which would require greater acceptance, love and care is considered useless, or held to be an intolerable burden, and is therefore rejected in one way or another. A person who, because of illness, handicap or, more simply, just by existing, compromises the well-being or life-style of those who are more favoured tends to be looked upon as an enemy to be resisted or eliminated. In this way a kind of "conspiracy against life" is unleashed....

Here we are faced with one of the more alarming symptoms of the "culture of death", which is advancing above all in prosperous societies, marked by an attitude of excessive preoccupation with efficiency and which sees the growing number of elderly and disabled people as intolerable and too burdensome. These people are very often isolated by their families and by society, which are organized almost exclusively on the basis of criteria of productive efficiency, according to which a hopelessly impaired life no longer has any value.

Note that the primary emphasis is not on sexuality at all, and what is listed as 'the most alarming symptom.'

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#152
Anyway, that is pretty much all I want to say on that matter---partly because I don't want to set myself up as the Catholic Answers of Rhizzone, and mainly because I don't want to risk getting into slap-fight with cars.
#153
But what did Cathol have to say about this?
#154

cars posted:

.custom284446{}c_man posted:im pretty sure homosex is right up there with contraception in the "culture of death" that i was always inveighed to battle with all my might, maybe the Cool Pope says gay sex is cool now but i havent paid attention since i haven't been forced to

whatever you're talking about is still not some sadistic shit about how gay bashing secures the manhood of a bunch of horn-rimmed white commie dorks


yyeah, it's worse because the catholic church has actual power and control over people's beliefs and actions towards gay people.

#155
Homosexuals must be accepted with respect, compassion, and sensitivity. Every sign of unjust discrimination in their regard should be avoided. These persons are called to fulfill God's will in their lives and, if they are Christians, to unite to the sacrifice of the Lord's Cross the difficulties they may encounter from their condition.
#156
Is it really important whether or not the Catholic Church uses the particular phrase "Culture of Death" to oppose gay rights?. If the Church actually opposes gay rights, it doesn't matter which sort of language the Church uses.

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#157
i officially renounce catholicism and am an atheist now to avoid this terrible impending thread
#158

cars posted:

c_man posted:

im pretty sure homosex is right up there with contraception in the "culture of death" that i was always inveighed to battle with all my might, maybe the Cool Pope says gay sex is cool now but i havent paid attention since i haven't been forced to

whatever you're talking about is still not some sadistic shit about how gay bashing secures the manhood of a bunch of horn-rimmed white commie dorks


no it secures more catholic babies for the upcoming race war spiritually trying times

#159

RedMaistre posted:

If we are talking about official lines, contrary to certain secondary sources out there, what your saying doesn't correspond to how the "culture of death" is used by the Vatican's formal documents. Here are the parts of Evangelium Vitae in which definitions of the phrase are provided:

This reality is characterized by the emergence of a culture which denies solidarity and in many cases takes the form of a veritable "culture of death". This culture is actively fostered by powerful cultural, economic and political currents which encourage an idea of society excessively concerned with efficiency. Looking at the situation from this point of view, it is possible to speak in a certain sense of a war of the powerful against the weak: a life which would require greater acceptance, love and care is considered useless, or held to be an intolerable burden, and is therefore rejected in one way or another. A person who, because of illness, handicap or, more simply, just by existing, compromises the well-being or life-style of those who are more favoured tends to be looked upon as an enemy to be resisted or eliminated. In this way a kind of "conspiracy against life" is unleashed....

Here we are faced with one of the more alarming symptoms of the "culture of death", which is advancing above all in prosperous societies, marked by an attitude of excessive preoccupation with efficiency and which sees the growing number of elderly and disabled people as intolerable and too burdensome. These people are very often isolated by their families and by society, which are organized almost exclusively on the basis of criteria of productive efficiency, according to which a hopelessly impaired life no longer has any value.



this is a pretty standard theological move tho. making broad universalizing claims about how the weak are abused by the strong and material and economic pressure blah blah whatever, when the actual practice of the church is to promote anti-communist propaganda and opposition to anything that threatens the patriarch as the center of social life. anyway my interest in the theological presentation of the church's regressive and awful sexual politics is only academic much like exactly which laws are invoked to deny black people housing and livelihood. it will take whatever form is convenient for the moment.

#160
we also had a "prayer for our nation" closing every mass so maybe we had a special parish