#41
http://www.telesurtv.net/english/news/Clinton-Emails-Reveal-Direct-US-Sabotage-of-Venezuela-20160726-0041.html

Spain was among the countries willing to help the U.S. in its subversive foreign relations strategy. Former Secretary of State Madeleine Albright passed on a message from the administration of conservative Prime Minister Mariano Rajoy in 2012 expressing intentions “to re-orient Spanish foreign policy so that it can work with the U.S. in Latin America, especially on Venezuela and Cuba ... As a transition in Cuba and something significant in Venezuela (and possibly the Andes) loom, a stronger working relationship between the U.S. and Spain could be very helpful.”



https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/5268

An email advising how to spend USAID funds strongly suggested refraining from backing leftist states like Venezuela, Ecuador, Nicaragua and Cuba because the money “could undermine real democratic development to hand over ‘ownership’ to populist centralizers.”

Clinton should use language like “‘local ownership’ in a nuanced way” to avoid having her words “used against her by demagogues and kleptocrats,” said the email. Any funds channeled into such unreliable states, it added, must be accompanied by “(h)uman behavioral changes.”



https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/26432

International aid to Venezuela was siphoned off, but broadcasts to counter local “propaganda” were amplified.

The Broadcasting Board of Governors—which runs the Marti stations, Voice of America, Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty, Radio Free Asia and the Middle East Broadcasting Networks—requested more funding in a 2010 email forwarded to Clinton to “combat the public diplomacy efforts of America's ‘enemies,’ which he (chairman Walter Isaacson) identifies as Iran, Venezuela, Russia, and China.”

The BBG, with a US$700 million annual budget—now increased to over US$750 million—was “facing increased competition from other governments' forays into international broadcasting ... including Venezuela's teleSUR.”



While giving the cold shoulder to Venezuela, Clinton was cozy with Latin American players that opposed the country's leftist politics.

Her counselor and chief of staff, Cheryl Mills, forwarded her a recommendation for Mari Carmen Aponte to be appointed as U.S. ambassador to El Salvador. Aponte, noted the email, “has consistently fought Cuba and Venezuela's efforts to gain influence in Central America and as a result of her negotiating skills, the U.S. and El Salvador will open a new, jointly-funded, electronic monitoring center that will be an invaluable tool in fighting transnational crime.”

#42

roseweird posted:

Re: Why?!?why?!?



From:KaplanJ@dnc.org
To: bobby_schmuck@who.eop.gov
Date: 2016-05-04 12:45
Subject: Re: Why?!?why?!?







Billy dec

Jordan Kaplan
National Finance Director
Democratic National Committee
(202) 488-5002 (o) | (312) 339-0224 (c)
kaplanj@dnc.org

> On May 4, 2016, at 7:44 AM, Schmuck, Bobby E. EOP/WHO <bobby_schmuck@who.eop.gov> wrote:
>
> Who is this?
>
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 4, 2016, at 10:41 AM, Kaplan, Jordan <KaplanJ@dnc.org> wrote:
>>
>> Come on guys! Make this end.
>>
>>
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>>
>> Jordan Kaplan
>> National Finance Director
>> Democratic National Committee
>> (202) 488-5002 (o) | (312) 339-0224 (c)
>> kaplanj@dnc.org
>>






lol

#43
#44

Original Message ---
From: Sullivan, JacobJ <SullivanJJ@state.gov >
To: H
Sent: Sun Nov 21 14:33:40 2010
Subject: Fw: (Jerusalem Post) PM: Cabinet to review US freeze deal when we get letter

Fyi - Prince is working with Dermer to get a common line. Meanwhile, I just watched my first ever women's field hockey game - Maryland beat UNC to win the national championship.

From: H <hrod17@clintonemail.com > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 3:52 PM
To: 'sullivanjj@state.gov'
Subject Re: (Jerusalem Post) PM: Cabinet to review US freeze deal when we get letter

Great game--even when played by girls! Will we be sending letter or not? Can you talk?



That kind of casual misogyny would get you fired from ESPN.

#45
The whole USAID thing is interesting because once Amerikkka offers a developing country a deal with USAID that country has two choices

1) Accept the program, gaining some foreign investment, but almost certainly opening the door for foreign sabotage and subversion

2) Deny the "deal" the USA has put forward and face the propaganda talking point that X regime "denies international aid to its own people."

This has been a regular charge by the Associated Press' Hannah Dreier. Who's specialty is reporting little horror stories from Venezuela that are always divorced from political-economic problem of the low price of oil. As if if only there were a referendum on Chavismo everything would some how stabilize.

#46

Soviet_Salami posted:

Original Message ---
From: Sullivan, JacobJ <SullivanJJ@state.gov >
To: H
Sent: Sun Nov 21 14:33:40 2010
Subject: Fw: (Jerusalem Post) PM: Cabinet to review US freeze deal when we get letter

Fyi - Prince is working with Dermer to get a common line. Meanwhile, I just watched my first ever women's field hockey game - Maryland beat UNC to win the national championship.

From: H <hrod17@clintonemail.com > Sent: Sunday, November 21, 2010 3:52 PM
To: 'sullivanjj@state.gov'
Subject Re: (Jerusalem Post) PM: Cabinet to review US freeze deal when we get letter

Great game--even when played by girls! Will we be sending letter or not? Can you talk?


That kind of casual misogyny would get you fired from ESPN.


it would get you fired from even being friends with a lot of people

#47
Lol yea for sure.
#48
oh sorry keven i forgot to put a trigger warning on there for people who are traumatized by mentions of a person possibly having friends, i'll remember next time
#49
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#50
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#51
P8yqWU0UzeY
#52
the planet's dyin', cloud
#53
so the entire DNC has resigned in disgrace now lol. nice work
#54
Well that's convenient, they'll have lots of empty chairs and leadership positions and ambassadors and cabinet appointments to offer all those republicans leaving the other side of the party to support hillary against trump. Lemonade!
#55

http://www.theatlantic.com/international/archive/2016/08/dnc-hack-russia-election/493685/ posted:

Back in 2009, Zephyr Teachout, a Fordham Law professor who’s currently running for Congress, wrote that “Given the global impact of United States policy, twenty years from now massive efforts to influence United States elections—from outside its borders—will be routine.” At the time, she meant that the internet had enabled governments, corporations, and citizens of other countries to influence U.S. elections as never before. For example, she asked, what if Venezuela’s then-president, Hugo Chavez, had released a series of viral videos online in 2008 that personally attacked the Republican presidential candidate, John McCain? Would that have been a good or bad thing for American democracy?

#56
i guess one solution might be to abolish national borders and have a world government
#57
Has anyone shown even a single piece of evidence indicating it was actually Russians
#58

Meursault posted:

Has anyone shown even a single piece of evidence indicating it was actually Russians



not one iota

#59
if i was a hacker i would try my damndest to point the blame for my activities at some state enemy
#60
ips were russian. its the same basis government + internet security people talk about the chinese government coordinating attacks against american servers, and npth are how we justify our own foreign and domestic cyberwarfare in whitepapers
#61

Urbandale posted:

ips were russian



as far as i can tell even this part is claimed but unsubstantiated

#62
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#63
the IPs weren't russian, they were icelandic, chinese, brazilian, swedish and american. pretty standard for a C&C network to be spread out like that so it doesn't prove or disprove anything.

the report by crowdstrike - the infosec company contracted by the DNC to fix their shit - is laughably bad. if we assume the basic facts are trustworthy, the "cozy bear" and "fancy bear" groups they accuse are identifiable purely because the tools used are consistent with past attacks. but those attacks go back many years and, for what it's worth, have not only targeted enemies of russia. even treating the two as specific, coherent "actors" or "groups" is tenuous - it's purely an assumption based on the use of variants of certain software tools.

the problems with the report are much more extensive than poor technical analysis though. it's awash in breathless hyperbole about the sophistication of the tools and the certainty of russian state involvement. granted, some of the tools involved must originally have been developed by pretty advanced specialists, but that tells us nothing about who is actually using them. they were certainly deployed using relatively unsophisticated spearphishing attacks (sending infected emails to staffers hoping they're stupid enough to open a zip or pdf attachment from a stranger).

the main reason to be suspicious of the allegations is the source. crowdstrike's dmitri alperovitch is the guy behind the operation shady rat report which accused china of similar state-sponsored attacks back in late 2011. in the wake of that report, he was telling the council on foreign relations these sorts of attacks were going to completely destroy the US economy within 5 years *looks at calendar*, doing panel discussions at the marshall institute and CSIS, and in may 2012 he joined the atlantic council as a senior fellow. so i wouldnt call him, yknow, unbiased.
#64

Petrol posted:

the IPs weren't russian, they were icelandic, chinese, brazilian, swedish and american. pretty standard for a C&C network to be spread out like that so it doesn't prove or disprove anything.

the report by crowdstrike - the infosec company contracted by the DNC to fix their shit - is laughably bad. if we assume the basic facts are trustworthy, the "cozy bear" and "fancy bear" groups they accuse are identifiable purely because the tools used are consistent with past attacks. but those attacks go back many years and, for what it's worth, have not only targeted enemies of russia. even treating the two as specific, coherent "actors" or "groups" is tenuous - it's purely an assumption based on the use of variants of certain software tools.

the problems with the report are much more extensive than poor technical analysis though. it's awash in breathless hyperbole about the sophistication of the tools and the certainty of russian state involvement. granted, some of the tools involved must originally have been developed by pretty advanced specialists, but that tells us nothing about who is actually using them. they were certainly deployed using relatively unsophisticated spearphishing attacks (sending infected emails to staffers hoping they're stupid enough to open a zip or pdf attachment from a stranger).

the main reason to be suspicious of the allegations is the source. crowdstrike's dmitri alperovitch is the guy behind the operation shady rat report which accused china of similar state-sponsored attacks back in late 2011. in the wake of that report, he was telling the council on foreign relations these sorts of attacks were going to completely destroy the US economy within 5 years *looks at calendar*, doing panel discussions at the marshall institute and CSIS, and in may 2012 he joined the atlantic council as a senior fellow. so i wouldnt call him, yknow, unbiased.



#65
I Ran the CIA. Now I'm Endorsing Hillary Clinton

During a 33-year career at the Central Intelligence Agency, I served presidents of both parties — three Republicans and three Democrats. I was at President George W. Bush’s side when we were attacked on Sept. 11; as deputy director of the agency, I was with President Obama when we killed Osama bin Laden in 2011.

I am neither a registered Democrat nor a registered Republican. In my 40 years of voting, I have pulled the lever for candidates of both parties. As a government official, I have always been silent about my preference for president.

No longer. On Nov. 8, I will vote for Hillary Clinton. Between now and then, I will do everything I can to ensure that she is elected as our 45th president.

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#66

No longer. On Nov. 8, I will vote for Hillary Clinton. Between now and then, I will do everything I can to ensure that she is elected as our 45th president.

is that a threat?

#67
Hillary Clinton’s Team Lost a Laptop Full of Her Emails in the Actual Mail

A laptop containing a copy, or “archive,” of the emails on Hillary Clinton’s private server was apparently lost—in the postal mail—according to an FBI report released Friday. Along with it, a thumb drive that also contained an archive of Clinton’s emails has been lost and is not in the FBI’s possession.

The archives on the laptop and thumbdrive were constructed by Clinton aides in 2013, using a convoluted process, before her emails were turned over to State Department officials and later scrubbed to determine which ones had classified information and should either be withheld from public view or could be released with redactions. The archive of messages would contain none of those safeguards, potentially exposing classified information if it were ever opened and its contents read.
#68
clinton losing her stuff in the mail has caused at least 11 webforums derailing into lengthy discussions on postal carriers. The internet is now even more littered with anecdotes about lost mail, damaged packages, rude mailmen, delayed deliveries, and doggy treats XD.
this election is fucked up
#69
We lost the digital mail in the real mail, all our tamagotchies were eaten by dogs who then needed vet visits, my real Grandma became suicida,l when I deliberately let my Sim Grandma die of bedsores
#70
Remember when everyone was breathlessly saying Kim Jong-un hacked Sony as revenge against Seth Rogen? These people just cluelessly point at whatever boogeyman is handy.

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#71

ilmdge posted:

Remember when everyone was breathlessly saying Kim Jong-un hacked Sony as revenge against Seth Rogen?



when they leaked the script to sausage party i thought it was some kind of psy-op to discredit him and make him look like an unfunny racist lunatic

#72

gay_swimmer posted:

make him look like an unfunny racist lunatic



wasn't that just what the interview was?

#73
https://theintercept.com/2016/09/13/colin-powell-emails/

(Colin) Powell added in a tangential complaint: “I told you about the gig I lost at a University because she so overcharged them they came under heat and couldn’t any (sic) fees for awhile. I should send her a bill.”
#74

#75
hey at least she didn't call him "that boy"

also

#76
colin powell bringing the heat

#77
lol
#78
(according to the NYP)

lmao a dude as connected as colin powell relying on nyp tabloid bullshit
#79
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#80
apparently when the dnc found out their emails were compromised they sent out the new email password via email