#401

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

babyhueypnewton posted:

I do think for example cat videos are so popular because cats are unconcerned with capitalism and so their simultaneous alien consciousness and mimicry of human emotions is the only way we can approach ideology as a whole: through irony. When you see a cat dressed up in a suit but not understanding what a suit is, capitalist ideology becomes visible for a moment in our clothes, even if it can only be approached from the unknowable and projected innocence of cat concerns.



Basically cat videos are today's Brechtian theatre where the familiar is made alien to reveal the capitalist violence within cultural objects that is disguised by fetishism. But the left is so weak and compromised by neoliberalism that this alienation effect must be then made familiar through "cuteness" and "memes" which allows such an effect to be absorbed into a system of affective images within the abstract rationality of capitalism and ultimately sold as a commodity when the alien has been fully reabsorbed.

#402

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

i would, but my wife wouldn't (she hates the chinese lol)



#403
I do think for example cat videos are so popular because cats are unconcerned with capitalism
#404

babyhueypnewton posted:

thirdplace posted:

https://www.theatlantic.com/science/archive/2017/02/planet-earth-ii-and-the-fantastic-urban-fox/515958/i liked this

Like every other one of his pieces this starts out with an interesting idea and then goes off the rails. This almost reads like he wrote the first half the the article and then inputted random notes he discarded earlier for being off topic to fill the word count. The first half before the fake biology is quite good though, I think there would be something really important in taking the marxist critique of urban space and de-anthropomorphizing it and possibly even finding room for non-human consciousness in the embedded ideology of the city. I do think for example cat videos are so popular because cats are unconcerned with capitalism and so their simultaneous alien consciousness and mimicry of human emotions is the only way we can approach ideology as a whole: through irony. When you see a cat dressed up in a suit but not understanding what a suit is, capitalist ideology becomes visible for a moment in our clothes, even if it can only be approached from the unknowable and projected innocence of cat concerns. One can easily apply this to cockroaches (who are metaphorically used as nature's indifference to nuclear war and man's concern with his own place in evolution) or zoo animals who are incorporated into liberal politics and resist them.

i agree with the first four sentences entirely, and the rest is the exact sort of batshit crazy I come to the rhiZZOne to love and enjoy. frontpage

#405
#406

babyhueypnewton posted:

I hate cats


Sorry mate, cats were cute way before capitalism and they will remain cute after it's destroyed.

#407
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#408
my cat is definitely a rational utility maximizer
#409
http://i.imgur.com/273los4.gifv

vanguard->proletariat->class struggle->socialism
#410
why hasnt sam kriss publicly disclosed the occupations, income, and political opinions of every member of his family??? probably because hes a spook
#411
Each and every one of you is to be considered a spook until you send me your Facebook, LinkedIn, phone number, address, tax returns, and social insurance number.
#412

shriekingviolet posted:

Each and every one of you is to be considered a spook until you send me your Facebook, LinkedIn, phone number, address, tax returns, and social insurance number.



remember that time khamsek said her new book was "way darker than spooks" and i said "that's racist." good times

#413
remember when the boston bombing happened and you said there was a small chance that you might have been there and i responded with "steampunk funeral"
#414
no
#415

#416
would headless resurrected jesus try to wppphhttbrp out wise sayings out of a wet hole in his neck or would he be holding and talking magically out of his severed head like a high school haunted house

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#417
yes
#418
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#419
sam kriss has a patreon
#420
whatever idiot decided not to call it SugarDaddy
#421
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#422

cars posted:

whatever idiot decided not to call it SugarDaddy


SugarDad.ly

#423
Give your money to Sam!

https://www.patreon.com/samkriss/posts
#424
While I support the success & fufillment of all those who dream, I will not be giving Sam Kris's free money.
#425
First of all, fuckass, anarchists have never acomplished shit and never will and if that's where we're getting our bodies we're just asking for trouble. Second off, doing your big compound motion lifts: squats, deadlifts, and bench press, will work your stabilizing muscles, meaning you will strengthen your abs. You do NOt need to do dedicated ab work while on a 5x5 program.
#426
if u donate just one milly he'll marry u. can we zzone fund this so sam has to wed goatstein
#427
I am already married so would need to convert to Gay Islam
#428
today Sam Kriss water comes from showers not gas denial auschwitz got into a funny skirmish with one of the insane alt-right YouTube people and if you're a scumbag like my self I sugest you check it out.
#429
can confirm that was a little funny yeah.
#430
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#431
sargan akkadia has spent the better part of US daytime pouring thru all of dedken's writing and highlighting random excerpts going "oh my god, i just, i can't even" wwhich is unfunny in a taxonomically distinct way from your standard white nationalist computer janitor.
#432
sam kriss recently posted something that i thought he knew better than, something schopenhauer debunked 150 years ago: the notion that evil is negative, "as the absence or deformation of the good. Goodness is whole, complete, and universal, while evil is identified with finitude and lack: the evil of disease is a lack of health, the evil of crime is a lack of order."

Schopenhauer:

I know of no greater absurdity than that propounded by most systems of philosophy in declaring evil to be negative in its character. Evil is just what is positive; it makes its own existence felt. (...) It is the good which is negative; in other words, happiness and satisfaction always imply some desire fulfilled, some state of pain brought to an end.



if you want to determine for yourself that this is true in less than 30 seconds, stop breathing. you will experience suffering, pain, fear. hold your head in a bucket; these will be followed by unconsciousness and death. evil asserts itself in seconds without action. you can argue that this is the deprivation of the good, but this is merely a semantic game - heat as the absence of cold. but cold is the rule, and heat the temporary, localized anomaly. heat is motion, work. air doesn't flow in of its own accord to suffuse your cells, food doesn't spontaneously appear in your belly. without effort to reduce it, positive evil will, by the most iron laws of physics, always triumph

#433
is thi s guy mustang or just extrmely bad on his own merits

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#434
dead ken is now doing a podcast for the biffler
#435
he's an idiot and im glad i called him "unloveable" like 7 years ago, i double down on that.
#436
he will always be dubstepken to me
#437

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

sam kriss recently posted something that i thought he knew better than, something schopenhauer debunked 150 years ago: the notion that evil is negative, "as the absence or deformation of the good. Goodness is whole, complete, and universal, while evil is identified with finitude and lack: the evil of disease is a lack of health, the evil of crime is a lack of order."



hes describing a position there, not endorsing it.

#438

animedad posted:

he's an idiot and im glad i called him "unloveable" like 7 years ago, i double down on that.


sam kriss is my dad and i love him

#439

vykromond posted:

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

sam kriss recently posted something that i thought he knew better than, something schopenhauer debunked 150 years ago: the notion that evil is negative, "as the absence or deformation of the good. Goodness is whole, complete, and universal, while evil is identified with finitude and lack: the evil of disease is a lack of health, the evil of crime is a lack of order."

hes describing a position there, not endorsing it.



yeah goatstein if you read just a few sentences down you'll see that i'm describing this position only to endorse its opposite

Kant doesn’t have humans falling into evil, but rising up from it, unsteadily and always in peril. Later thinkers teased out this notion further. In Adorno, evil is located precisely in the universality that the Neoplatonists called the good—the indifferent whole that stamps out all non-identity and flattens everything in its wake. Life under capitalism is the bad life, and every part of it—bad films, bad sex, tedious paperwork, the crushing drudgery of every pointless chore—partakes of that evil.

#440
I was too busy watching 5 hour altright youtubes to read the thing closely mea culpa