#81

Naturally then, you see the descriptor of the platonic oppressor evolve from “men” when rich white second-wave feminists get going in the middle of the last century, to “white men” as the race critique from womanists comes in, to “straight white men” as the sexuality critique comes in, to “cis straight white men” as the gender identity critique comes in most recently. Class is swirling around in the tradition, often in long lists of identities, but it’s on the margin. Should the default tag ever evolve to include “rich” or “high socioeconomic status” in it, we will know we have arrived.


Oh my GOD this guy needs to be shot in the brain

#82
Thanks for providing the rich cis straight white male viewpoint on the topic, Thug Lessons. Cheers
#83

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

http://www.newstatesman.com/2013/11/why-movember-isnt-all-its-cracked-be

Further, the inclusivity of Movember deserves examination. For one, only men (and even then, only some men) can grow a moustache.



grade-A Vampirism



#84

Lessons posted:




so you didnt actually read the article then

#85

acephalousuniverse posted:

Lessons posted:

so you didnt actually read the article then


#86

acephalousuniverse posted:

http://mattbruenig.com/2013/11/24/identitarianism-and-the-working-class/

I can see how the Russel Brand story will end up playing out for me as well. As I get advanced degrees and ideally a job that puts me occupationally out of the poor working class, any claim I do have to that identity (which is already not respected in any case) will fade year by year until it is just discarded altogether by those who might not like what I have to say about poor people and their issues. This sort of treatment creates the double-bind that ensures a permanent erasure of poor working class voices. If you grow up in the identity and remain in it, your access to any of these discussions is extremely limited. If you grow up in the identity and become educated enough to access these discussions, you no longer get to claim the identity.



thats just liberalism. revolution comes materially from the working class

#87
dont thugshame
#88

daddyholes posted:

thats just liberalism. revolution comes materially from the working class



no it doesn't. read your laclau and then become a liberal

#89
heres a interview with the vampire castle guy

http://douglaslain.net/diet-soap-podcast-198-joy-identity/
#90
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#91

gyrofry posted:

heres a interview with the vampire castle guy

http://douglaslain.net/diet-soap-podcast-198-joy-identity/



i listened to this one last night
http://www.leftbusinessobserver.com/Radio.html#S131205

diet soap is usually good though

#92
I looked at the North Star today and it's turned into nothing but posts about identity politics lol
#93
apparently people stepped down as editors and stuff over it, pretty crazy. i didn't know that till it was mentioned in the diet soap interview.
#94

acephalousuniverse posted:

That suckit was directed firmly into the aether and not at any woeman



Hello?? my very own mother is aetherkin u fuckstik

#95

acephalousuniverse posted:

apparently people stepped down as editors and stuff over it, pretty crazy. i didn't know that till it was mentioned in the diet soap interview.


It's apparently not true accord to McCaine who's an editor himself

#96
pham binh was an editor and he stepped down for personal reasons a while ago. i think louis proyect might have been an editor or something and he hates the site now because it publishes pro-assad terrorist lies.
#97
louis proyect linked to discipline's article and called it trash or something... he also told me i looked like a pig.
#98
now thats what I call an unrepentant marxist
#99
Lost another one to Proyect
#100

acephalousuniverse posted:

http://mattbruenig.com/2013/11/24/identitarianism-and-the-working-class/

As I get advanced degrees and ideally a job that puts me occupationally out of the poor working class,


#101

Lessons posted:

It's apparently not true accord to McCaine who's an editor himself



I wondered what the deal was since googling didn't find anyone talking about it.

#102
i recently read that the US government dropped radioactive dust on Louis Proyect from like 1953-1965?? is this true?????
#103
can we get high in this vampire castle?
#104
i was gonna overthrow the bourgeoisie, but then i got high.
socialism was true to me, but then i got high.
and now im in a vampire's castle, and i know why! (hey heeeeey hey)
because i got high, because i got high, because i got hiiiiiiiiigh
(badada-da-da)
#105
Mark Fisher released a new Video! Let's watch:



Wow very enlightening
#106
Btw we ' re gonna torture mark fisher's pathetic connecticut flesh to find out where Nick land is located.. We ' re really in Nick Land now . . .
#107
Identity politics want you to eat banana chips (banana SHITS!! Banana fuckers) and drink ketchup, but whatcha wanna do is, you go down to the store and get your Owen Jones and your Tony Blair. Lets do a quizzzzz!! First you try this one, Owen Jones, MMmmmMMMMMmmmmmmmmmm, and now fore the banana shits. *puts some feminism in my mouth AND FUCKING BARFS* This tastes like bollocks! I put those bollocks in my mouth! FUCK ME!!!
#108
Also if you watch the interview with Mark Fisher someone posted on the last page you get to hear him explain how "the desire of Starbucks is the desire for communism."
#109
Attn women, black ppl and other trolls: I am 34 years old and I've never had sex, but I DID vote for Tony Blair. Who did you vote for? NOBODY, that's who. And yeah I love Tony, but would I suck on his weener? Maybe, that's between me and my boy Tony. Anyway, peace, I'm about to unfollow some black people because they don't know when to SHUT UP!

-Mark Fisher on Twitter
#110
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#111

Lessons posted:

Attn women, black ppl and other trolls: I am 34 years old and I've never had sex, but I DID vote for Tony Blair. Who did you vote for? NOBODY, that's who. And yeah I love Tony, but would I suck on his weener? Maybe, that's between me and my boy Tony. Anyway, peace, I'm about to unfollow some black people because they don't know when to SHUT UP!

-Mark Fisher on Twitter

this is totally taken out of context

#112
don't incelshame
#113
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#114
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#115
most incels are probably not cool unless they're just really ugly. a lot of really ugly people are cool.
#116
please note i did not have sex with alex nor am i able to vote in British politique
#117
bump
#118
why did this get bumped At Large? tia
#119

parabolart posted:

why did this get bumped At Large? tia



sometimes its nice to rotate some classics out of cold storage and into the public gallery

#120
it helps, in case someone wants to see a good post