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Transgender woman is convicted of prostitution-related charge

Megan Cassidy, The Republic | azcentral.com 10:46 p.m. MST April 11, 2014

A Phoenix judge on Friday found a transgender woman guilty of a prostitution-related offense based on a city ordinance that the American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona has deemed unconstitutional.

Monica Jones, 29, was arrested in May as a part of a Phoenix police prostitution-sting operation.

Jones, an activist for sex-worker rights, was charged with manifestation of prostitution, which police can enforce based on a number of qualifiers: repeated attempts to engage a passer-by in conversation, attempts to stop cars by waving at them, inquiries as to whether someone is a police officer or requesting that someone touch his or her genitals.

She pleaded not guilty and challenged the constitutionality of the law she allegedly violated. She subsequently asked that the case be dropped. Attorneys for Jones filed a memorandum in March stating that the ordinance targets transgender women by its interpretive nature and violates the First Amendment.

"Even assuming the government has a compelling interest in prohibiting prostitution, a measure that criminalizes a broad range of legal speech surely cannot be the 'least restrictive' means to furthering such an interest," the document states.

In an interview with The Arizona Republic on Thursday evening, Jones said she felt she was targeted because of her race and gender.

"You never see a heterosexual transgender man (accused of manifestation of prostitution)," she said. "It targets women, especially women in poverty, and women of minority."

Jones returned to court Friday with reinforcement.

Dan Pochoda, legal director of the ACLU of Arizona, argued on behalf of Jones. He said the ordinance is a "classic example of criminalizing protected speech" and said courts in other states have vacated similar statutes.

Assistant City Prosecutor Gary Shupe argued that the ordinance contains an element of intent and said that there appears to be a split between how courts have dealt with comparative laws.

Two witnesses were called to testify during the trial before Phoenix Municipal Judge Hercules Dellas: Jones for the defense and an undercover Phoenix police officer for the prosecution.

Their stories about what happened the night the officer picked up Jones in his truck diverged on a key factor: Although Jones agreed that she accepted a ride from the officer, she maintained that he was the one who approached her.

The courtroom gallery was spilling over with supporters for Jones and transgender and sex-worker rights, many of whom protested the charges outside the courthouse just before the trial. An audible moan rang throughout the courtroom when Dellas announced his guilty verdict.

The case underlines a rift among some activists who work with sex workers. Many advocates work within the bounds of existing anti-prostitution laws to offer other life alternatives. Others, like the Sex Workers Outreach Project, aim to decriminalize the profession altogether. Jones is an advocate for the Sex Workers Outreach Project of Phoenix.

Jones' crusade shone a spotlight on Project Rose, a Phoenix initiative that aims to divert prostitutes away from jail and toward social-service providers.

Through an interagency collaboration, the project offers those picked up for prostitution-related offenses a chance to sidestep the charge upon the completion of a diversion program and provides health and housing services immediately after police contact. If the person does not complete the program, the arrest is filed.

Other prostitution-diversion programs require suspects to plead guilty, with a promise to dismiss the conviction once the program is completed.

Jones was arrested in one of the Phoenix police stings that involved Project Rose. She said she had been protesting the project just one day before her arrest.

Dominique Roe-Sepowitz, director of Arizona State University's Office of Sex Trafficking Intervention Research, who evaluates Project Rose, said that of the 367 people who were offered diversion under the project, 366 chose it over jail.

She said there is a 28 percent success rate in the diversion program. But Roe-Sepowitz added that it's important to note that it often takes multiple tries for sex workers get out of the profession. She said a first chance is offered through Project Rose and a second chance through traditional plea agreements.

Jones said that even with the diversion program, Project Rose is helping to criminalize sex workers. She said resources would be better spent talking to sex workers and offering services without criminalization.

Jade McKenzie, a transgender woman and Project Rose volunteer, said Jones' opinions do not represent the entire transgender community.

McKenzie said she worked with Jones when she was arrested in May.

McKenzie, a former sex worker, went through the Dignity diversion program a few years ago.

Dignity is the program partnered with Project Rose.

well, i certainly feel safer.

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project rose

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idgi what does this have to do with transgenderism
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is it that transgender hookers are disproportionately arrested relative to nontransgender hookers or is it that transgenders are disproportionately hookers relative to nonhookers? who are these people? why do we not have a mali thread?
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https://asunews.asu.edu/20140409-az-sex-trafficking-lecture
Arizona has become fertile ground for pimps, for-profit Romeos and sex traffickers, thanks to its efficient transportation corridors, a large resort community and mild climate that brings conferences and other tourist attractions year-round, according to an ASU researcher and national expert on the topic.

“Arizona has many borders that are porous, and a great highway system that offers anonymous movement throughout the state and across state lines,” Roe-Sepowitz said.

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Jones, an activist for sex-worker rights,



Remember kids, carceral feminism is a myth created by the sex work lobby.

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gyrofry posted:

is it that transgender hookers are disproportionately arrested relative to nontransgender hookers or is it that transgenders are disproportionately hookers relative to nonhookers? who are these people? why do we not have a mali thread?


https://www.aclu.org/blog/lgbt-rights-criminal-law-reform-hiv-aids-reproductive-freedom-womens-rights/arrested-walking

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i don't get it. she acknowledges she's a prostitute right? what is this strumpet complaining about. if she was arrested while not actually a prostitute it might make more sense
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like if you pull over a black guy who is actually speeding does the driving while black card apply?
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2016: The number of sex workers in the US is surpassed by combined number of anti-trafficking research centers.

2021: Half of all US college students report their major is related to the study of sex work and associated public policies.

2023: Federal funding for "anti-prostitution initiatives" eclipses Department of Defense spending for first time.

2026: Burden of anti-sex-work programs is "primary cause of our nation's fiscal crisis" according to President Chelsea Clinton.

2027: Dorothy, considered to be the last remaining US sex worker, takes a job as a server at a restaurant in Los Angeles.
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So HK you would agree with Ms. Jones and her supporters for the need of full decriminalization of Sex Work and to recognize it as a job as any other?
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MadMedico posted:

https://asunews.asu.edu/20140409-az-sex-trafficking-lectureArizona has become fertile ground for pimps, for-profit Romeos and sex traffickers, thanks to its efficient transportation corridors, a large resort community and mild climate that brings conferences and other tourist attractions year-round, according to an ASU researcher and national expert on the topic.

“Arizona has many borders that are porous, and a great highway system that offers anonymous movement throughout the state and across state lines,” Roe-Sepowitz said.



that lady runs a bring hookers to jesus to avoid jail time program btw

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2014/03/03/sex-workers-rounded-up-in-arizona-and-pushed-into-church-based-programs-without-charges/

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i think debates over the legality of sex work shouldn't get in the way of wider efforts to keep women of color from being put into cages.
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HenryKrinkle posted:

Jones, an activist for sex-worker rights, was charged with manifestation of prostitution, which police can enforce based on a number of qualifiers: repeated attempts to engage a passer-by in conversation, attempts to stop cars by waving at them, inquiries as to whether someone is a police officer or requesting that someone touch his or her genitals.



im.....im a prostitute??


how am i going to break this to my parents

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Similar laws exist outside of Arizona that outlaw soliciting in a roadway, and this particular case doesn't sound at all unusual. I've seen the law being applied when the prostitute has flagged down or otherwise caught the attention of an undercover deputy, but then backed out of the prostitution deal because she recognises the deputy from past arrests or simply gets suspicious. The person would usually be evaluated by social workers and entered into a programme, rather than prosecuted. I don't know how the law would specifically target transgendered female street walkers over other sorts of street walkers.

Also,

"American Civil Liberties Union of Arizona has deemed unconstitutional."

lmao'ing so hard at this one.
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gyrofry posted:

like if you pull over a black guy who is actually speeding does the driving while black card apply?


yes because people speed literally all the time and dont get pulled over

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maybe they shouldnt
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first everybody complains that black people are never on time. then you complain when they hurry to their destinations. you white folk are never satisfied
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in before khamsek posts some radfem cis bigot rant
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http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/transgender-womens-rights-advocate-and-prominent-twitter-engineer-charged-with-rape/Content?oid=2761316
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EmanuelaOrlandi posted:

in before khamsek posts some radfem cis bigot rant



once you've seen one of those youve seen em all

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HenryKrinkle posted:

i think debates over the legality of sex work shouldn't get in the way of wider efforts to keep women of color from being put into cages.


Good point, that's why full decrim is the most logical solution and is supported by sex worker rights organizations and human rights groups like Amnesty international.

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MadMedico posted:

HenryKrinkle posted:

i think debates over the legality of sex work shouldn't get in the way of wider efforts to keep women of color from being put into cages.

Good point, that's why full decrim is the most logical solution and is supported by sex worker rights organizations and human rights groups like Amnesty international.

decriminalization would be great because liberals would be able to treat prostitutes with the same condescension they use on duane reade cashiers and migrant workers

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personally i support the nordic model. sorry i mean the no-dick model. phase out men.
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we should build state-run brothels staffed with slaves taken from our foreign wars, except they're fake, anyone who wanders in to use them gets castrated and assigned to a myshelovka in the poop mines
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Agnus_Dei posted:

http://www.sfexaminer.com/sanfrancisco/transgender-womens-rights-advocate-and-prominent-twitter-engineer-charged-with-rape/Content?oid=2761316


What the fuck? lol

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@Lilly "Trans people do not have the required institutional power to rape their oppressors"

I agree. Get a load of the cis tears in this comments section! LOL! I mean, I dont think anyone should be coercing others into sexual activity, but rape involves power, and ciswomen saying they can be raped by trans people is a joke.

Imagine a cisman saying he was raped by a ciswoman. Nobody is going to take that seriously. If you can understand that, then you can understand why I laugh at ciswomen when they go on about their rape fears around trans people. Ciswomen, we're at risk from YOU, not the other way around.
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LOL!
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Skylark posted:

EmanuelaOrlandi posted:

in before khamsek posts some radfem cis bigot rant

once you've seen one of those youve seen em all

hey if that was you who had that little exchange with maggotmaster on the tumblrs recently i enjoyed your voice. it almost inspired me to post a thread here on the toxicity inherent to following politics, as it inevitably involves interacting with particularly awful people, like of course MM is overflowing with bile, he's getting into insult contests with nazis on the reg.. but then i remembered what a mindblowingly redundant observation that would be for anyone here and played a video game instead

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personally i support the continued illegality of prostitution AND abstinence-only sex education. you simply cant argue with results
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maggotmaster is a lady now
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someone on tumblr posted that the chances of getting murdered in the broader US population was 1 in 100,000 but that for a trans person the chance was 1 in 12.

this confused me because i always thought people said trans were like 1% of the population. so i looked on wikipedia and i guess 0.3% of americans self-report as trans? anyway i'm no math wizard but if they are 0.067% of the population or greater that means all people in the US who are murdered are trans. i'm not saying that's wrong, just that it would change our views of crime victims.
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getfiscal posted:

someone on tumblr posted that the chances of getting murdered in the broader US population was 1 in 100,000 but that for a trans person the chance was 1 in 12.

this confused me because i always thought people said trans were like 1% of the population. so i looked on wikipedia and i guess 0.3% of americans self-report as trans? anyway i'm no math wizard but if they are 0.067% of the population or greater that means all people in the US who are murdered are trans. i'm not saying that's wrong, just that it would change our views of crime victims.


idk what you did, but taking your numbers (0.3% americans are trans, 1 murder per 100000 americans, and 1 trans murders per 12 trans people) bayes theorem gives me this probability (very low) of a murdered person being trans

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area man actually uses wolfram alpha
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gyrofry posted:

area man actually uses wolfram alpha


im sorry if that offended you

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