cars posted:fun teaching moment today... people were talking about how cashiers say "no problem" or "no worries" where older people expect to hear "you're welcome" or have the cashier thank the customer. i pointed out how the material relations of workers to stores has changed thanks to contemporary corporate structure, so where it used to be that continued business from customers directly benefited a worker who was the son or daughter of a family owner or one of a few lifelong employees, now both the worker and the customer know instinctively that good business might have no impact or negative impact on a worker.
like, a store doing good business might lead to the power to automate that worker out of a job next month, or internal analytics might suggest firing workers regardless to increase profits, and if it was a kid working at their family's store that's a net gain to the kid in the short and long term: the family has more money the next month, the store they might inherit gains value and the kid can go out and look for another job with a net increase in their wellbeing, their ability to go to college later, etc. if a worker gets fired from a chain store nowadays, they're just fucked and everyone knows they're not paid sufficiently anyway, so any service they render prompts gratitude from the customer and the polite response (honest or not) is, it wasn't any extra trouble for the worker.
people seemed to stop and think about that a little harder than when it was just discussion on the level of "boomers" and "millennials" and sniping back and forth about "feeling entitled"... economic thinking never fails to impress in the west I guess.
i dont give a shit if service drones say "you're welcome" or "no problem" but i cringe imagining the interminable ein svei training videos that instruct them to say "my pleasure" or "venti"
drwhat posted:but i have a job here that will pay for me to go back to school, so i will probably stay here
Good luck with school.
which brand provides the most pleasant drive through experience would you say?
Keven posted:drwhat posted:
i went and spoke to some people at a university in london and they were weird and marxist and i will probably go there to be those things too.
UK university seems really bizarre to me compared to Canada (this is even more so after reading getfiscal's post), all the degree programs seem incredibly insular. i was speaking to someone about some psychology stuff and i asked if any of the classes she mentioned were available to people in other programs and apparently the prospect was so insane that she didn't even understand it let alone have a helpful answer
welcome to england!! everyone must get in their designated box!! everything is fine!!
Departments are largely the same in USA & everyone talks about the need for interdisciplinary study and nobody ever takes the steps to reorganize the depaetments to allow for it.
I dunno if that's true generally in the US. I know lots of people working in weird interdisciplinary departments, and you can definitely take courses outside your field even as a PhD student--most of my PhD classmates took courses in other departments. My wife got paid to teach a course on "Magic, Religion, and Science" with an anthropologist and a religious studies lady when she was in grad school. None of them did natural sciences, though, so the science bit ended up being mostly Marxism IIRC
Aspie_Muslim_Economist_ posted:Keven posted:drwhat posted:
i went and spoke to some people at a university in london and they were weird and marxist and i will probably go there to be those things too.
UK university seems really bizarre to me compared to Canada (this is even more so after reading getfiscal's post), all the degree programs seem incredibly insular. i was speaking to someone about some psychology stuff and i asked if any of the classes she mentioned were available to people in other programs and apparently the prospect was so insane that she didn't even understand it let alone have a helpful answer
welcome to england!! everyone must get in their designated box!! everything is fine!!
Departments are largely the same in USA & everyone talks about the need for interdisciplinary study and nobody ever takes the steps to reorganize the depaetments to allow for it.I dunno if that's true generally in the US. I know lots of people working in weird interdisciplinary departments, and you can definitely take courses outside your field even as a PhD student--most of my PhD classmates took courses in other departments. My wife got paid to teach a course on "Magic, Religion, and Science" with an anthropologist and a religious studies lady when she was in grad school. None of them did natural sciences, though, so the science bit ended up being mostly Marxism IIRC
Actually that's fair, it's gotten a lot better, at least within kind of the subgroupings they do where like, soc anthro psych are part of the same school.
RBC posted:as a long time patron of fast food drive throughs i find all these comments interesting and relevant, please continue
which brand provides the most pleasant drive through experience would you say?
oh hi B
As to your question, it's pronounced drive thru.
roseweird posted:at my school sociology shares its department with criminal justice and counterterrorism
lol, that's one reason I don't really buy into the interdisciplinary hype, at least as it's practiced. Mustering the will and grant money to bring academics from a bunch of different fields together means there's somebody with deep pockets who has a vested interest in a (usually) economic, sociological, or political policy question, which means you end up working for DARPA or the like a lot of the time. I was talking to an experimental economist who looks exactly like Jon Lovitz a few months ago; he was working on some cool interdisciplinary project on social networks, but it turned out the military wanted to use it to decide which people to kill in "terrorist" organizations. Whoops!
Aspie_Muslim_Economist_ posted:I was talking to an experimental economist who looks exactly like Jon Lovitz a few months ago; he was working on some cool interdisciplinary project on social networks, but it turned out the military wanted to use it to decide which people to kill in "terrorist" organizations. Whoops!
you promised not to tell
roseweird posted:at my school sociology shares its department with criminal justice and counterterrorism
Its cool when the crimjus guys take the sociology version of any crime class and they're sitting there like excuse me professor but what if the criminal is a Sociopath, a special made up mental disease criminal whos mental disease symptom is they never stop committing crimes.
getfiscal posted:Outside... so good. Close second to inside.
I was pretty impressed when someone asked your plan for space exploration and you proposed to make the entire atmosphere indoors
elias posted:i have boobs" and pointed at her boobs. she wasn't like laughing or anything though, well she was but in the humorless mean way that implied she was sincerely concerned i didn't address them as like sir and madame.
her boobs?
roseweird posted:at my school sociology shares its department with criminal justice and counterterrorism
a friend in a related field mentioned to me the other day defense contractors are moving away from giving academic grants & contest rewards for Cool Robots and are instead focusing on incentives for people to give them Cool Social Engineering
elias posted:one time i was talking to this older white couple and i guess i addressed them as "you guys" at some point
sorry but, we already have a thread for discussing whether "guys" can be gender neutral, the designated place for this topic is Root » Site News and Feedback » Current Issues
mods?
ilmdge posted:this week i was talking to a senior, tenured public policy professor, he's been an assistant dean at multiple tier 1 universities, and he was showing me anti-trump memes on his phone and i was politely laughing until he showed me the one that says TRUMP in yellow over a red background and it had a hammer and sickle, and then i was like "i dont like that one, trump isnt a communist." "well, it's because he's such buddies with putin," he explained to me. and i said "putin isnt communist either, theyre both right wing" and he was just kind of like "whatever" and put his phone away .score one for communism!
plus ca change, plus cest la meme chose
Aspie_Muslim_Economist_ posted:roseweird posted:at my school sociology shares its department with criminal justice and counterterrorism
lol, that's one reason I don't really buy into the interdisciplinary hype, at least as it's practiced. Mustering the will and grant money to bring academics from a bunch of different fields together means there's somebody with deep pockets who has a vested interest in a (usually) economic, sociological, or political policy question, which means you end up working for DARPA or the like a lot of the time. I was talking to an experimental economist who looks exactly like Jon Lovitz a few months ago; he was working on some cool interdisciplinary project on social networks, but it turned out the military wanted to use it to decide which people to kill in "terrorist" organizations. Whoops!
the biggest example of this is the field of "complex systems". its a mish-mash of quantitative techniques (sometimes from the sciences, sometimes not) applied to anything anyone can think of. i assume phil mirowski hasnt heard about it because i imagine it would give him an aneurysm
drwhat posted:but i have a job here that will pay for me to go back to school, so i will probably stay here until that disappears and/or some company in canada wants to pay for it. i guess starbucks does that or something idk
They mak you start deciding your future academic path at the age of 13-14
thanks for reading my post
drwhat posted:because of the short loop, c_man's avatar just looks like it has stink lines to me
those are his "posts"
marlax78 posted:not as bad as the old schizo woman wandering the elementary school parking lot at 9 PM when the street lights were off, though. i think those types of people are more scared of us than we are of them...
that was me