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also whiskey
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lmfao
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thank u for continuing to disseminate old branded content to our eye holes
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poutine republic
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Mike Nelson here.
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karphead posted:

lmfao

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Johnny_Ramone#Politics
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YUNG JIRO AKA SHOWA STUNNA AKA
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Ay boys. I think we found the 30 year old having sex with teens
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YUNG JIRO AKA SHOWA STUNNA AKA
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its the OP, aka Johnny Ramone
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Not Your S.H.I.E.L.D.
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*hurls obesity hAmmer at screen made out of dorito*
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Maybe it's just because I see everything through the prism of class struggle nowadays, but does it seem like there is a lot of media nowadays advocating revolution?
I know there always are undercurrents, but it seems like movies, not-punk music, seem to advocate revolution more than it used to. And even justifying violent revolution. Is it just me or does anyone else know what I mean.
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Red_Canadian posted:

Maybe it's just because I see everything through the prism of class struggle nowadays, but does it seem like there is a lot of media nowadays advocating revolution?
I know there always are undercurrents, but it seems like movies, not-punk music, seem to advocate revolution more than it used to. And even justifying violent revolution. Is it just me or does anyone else know what I mean.



like, you mean Maidan? what *sort* of revolution is the question. do you think imperial bourgeois media is advocating communist revolution?

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Red_Canadian posted:

Maybe it's just because I see everything through the prism of class struggle nowadays, but does it seem like there is a lot of media nowadays advocating revolution?
I know there always are undercurrents, but it seems like movies, not-punk music, seem to advocate revolution more than it used to. And even justifying violent revolution. Is it just me or does anyone else know what I mean.


prepare to have your heart broken

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Crow posted:

Red_Canadian posted:

Maybe it's just because I see everything through the prism of class struggle nowadays, but does it seem like there is a lot of media nowadays advocating revolution?
I know there always are undercurrents, but it seems like movies, not-punk music, seem to advocate revolution more than it used to. And even justifying violent revolution. Is it just me or does anyone else know what I mean.

like, you mean Maidan? what *sort* of revolution is the question. do you think imperial bourgeois media is advocating communist revolution?



Mortdecai is a clear call for communist revolution.

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Red_Canadian posted:

Maybe it's just because I see everything through the prism of class struggle nowadays, but does it seem like there is a lot of media nowadays advocating revolution?
I know there always are undercurrents, but it seems like movies, not-punk music, seem to advocate revolution more than it used to. And even justifying violent revolution. Is it just me or does anyone else know what I mean.

i think as you become more aware of communist ideology and history its easy to see it everywhere, but its hard to separate it from psychological phenomena... obviously if you've just read heavily about che (or w/e) then you start noticing che shirts more often, more than you would if you had no idea who he was. you pay more attention to info that's relevant to your interests. also the whole "everything looks like a nail when you have a hammer" thing. thats not to say these themes don't filter through... there was an ad campaign here which was for schweppes which imitated anarchist/communist propaganda iconography, even erecting giant banners in one of the major train stations. its nothing but kitsch for the bourgeois, striking imagery they can use to hawk their wares.

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http://www.news.com.au/national/ugly-divide-in-australian-life/story-e6frfkp9-1227378675300 posted:

AUSTRALIANS are proud of being able to protest in one of the world’s oldest continuing democracies. It is a right protected by the rule of law. But now the rule of law is being broken by rival groups determined to disrupt each other’s rights to publicly state their views.





The Richmond Town Hall protest on Sunday saw protesters from the Campaign Against Racism and Fascism clash with supporters of the United Patriots Front.
Extremism is ugly and dangerous. The community is the loser. While one group decries what it sees as fascism, the other accuses it of undermining Australian values by its support of radical Islam.

Both are entitled to their views,





A flashpoint has been reached in attitudes fed by terrorist fears and public alarm over arrests and alleged bomb plots by Islamic State sympathisers.

Genuine public concern has been seized upon by extremists from either side of a widening political and cultural divide.

A continuing cultural clash is the greater danger,



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looking good petrol
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YUNG JIRO AKA SHOWA STUNNA AKA
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lol at "(Germanic)" on that guys head
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jiroemon1897 posted:

lol at "(Germanic)" on that guys head



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i know this dude with a swastika tattoo and he's cool af. his name is gunplay and he goes ham
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Makeshift_Swahili posted:

Red_Canadian posted:

Maybe it's just because I see everything through the prism of class struggle nowadays, but does it seem like there is a lot of media nowadays advocating revolution?
I know there always are undercurrents, but it seems like movies, not-punk music, seem to advocate revolution more than it used to. And even justifying violent revolution. Is it just me or does anyone else know what I mean.

i think as you become more aware of communist ideology and history its easy to see it everywhere, but its hard to separate it from psychological phenomena... obviously if you've just read heavily about che (or w/e) then you start noticing che shirts more often, more than you would if you had no idea who he was. you pay more attention to info that's relevant to your interests. also the whole "everything looks like a nail when you have a hammer" thing. thats not to say these themes don't filter through... there was an ad campaign here which was for schweppes which imitated anarchist/communist propaganda iconography, even erecting giant banners in one of the major train stations. its nothing but kitsch for the bourgeois, striking imagery they can use to hawk their wares.



DID YOu know david bowie did a song about revolution, it's called "kooks"

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Petrol posted:

jiroemon1897 posted:

lol at "(Germanic)" on that guys head




those would make some pretty good grinder pics

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british boxing glove
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Poronto
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the Beatles did a song about revolution
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the fash settling in nicely in our Doomed Desert Outpost....
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random song on the radio yesterday: "this is not a social crisis, just another tough day for you, you'll get through" lmao
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To be honest, I kind of figured it was more looking for it, but I do feel that some businesses use revolutionary rhetoric, purely in pursuit of profit, and that potentially people could be radicalized (a little) by it. I mean, look at the pretty popular Hunger Games books (movies). It's about one city that administers a bunch of other ones, with all the wealth concentrated in it. Sure the gladiatorially games is the difference from our society, but otherwise they promote a violent revolution based on a desire for a more equitable situation, open derision of the wastefulness of the wealthy, and how heroic it is to sacrifice yourself for others. I mean, that last bit has been promoted by states forever, but it is about the poorer citizens in hunger games. Is that any chance that this could influence someone? Or am I merely reading to into it?
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I think this post correctly points out that what superficially looks like a call for revolution in Hunger Games really comes down to a valorization of the 'creative class' as the vanguard that leads the masses to victory, a la Sorel, not through actual concrete political programs but through the promotion of a violent romantic individualist mythology.

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Speaking of which:

"Screenshots of Fusion’s internal traffic metrics obtained by Gawker—measured by Chartbeat, which Gawker and many other properties use—show that even in the middle of a workday, virtually no one is reading anything the website publishes. The number of “concurrents” (people reading the same thing simultaneously) is unbelievably low for a website that’s been around for two years and employs some of the most widely known digital journalists around.

At the moment the above screenshot was taken (this afternoon), only 32 people were reading a post titled “Hot Girls Wanted: A disturbing, behind-the-scenes look at how ‘amateur’ porn is made.” It is the most popular story on the entirety of Fusion.net—and if you can’t get people to click something about naked teenage girls on the internet, something is deeply wrong."

http://tktk.gawker.com/more-people-work-at-fusion-than-are-reading-its-most-po-1708507965
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Dont Mess With Sucess
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Red_Canadian posted:

open derision of the wastefulness of the wealthy,

Lifestyle criticism is sub reformist

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Red_Canadian posted:

To be honest, I kind of figured it was more looking for it, but I do feel that some businesses use revolutionary rhetoric, purely in pursuit of profit, and that potentially people could be radicalized (a little) by it. I mean, look at the pretty popular Hunger Games books (movies). It's about one city that administers a bunch of other ones, with all the wealth concentrated in it. Sure the gladiatorially games is the difference from our society, but otherwise they promote a violent revolution based on a desire for a more equitable situation, open derision of the wastefulness of the wealthy, and how heroic it is to sacrifice yourself for others. I mean, that last bit has been promoted by states forever, but it is about the poorer citizens in hunger games. Is that any chance that this could influence someone? Or am I merely reading to into it?

well we should look at the particular class analysis of these films. do they actually have Marxist themes or are they just generic liberal stuf railing against "totalitarianism". are the civilians poor because of the inherent nature of capitalism, or are they poor because some cartoon dictator represses them, doesnt give them free speech and twitter and holds down the genius entrepreneurs or whatever. i haent seen the Hunger Games but i imagine most hollywood films fall into those second categories.

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Does the movie make you feel like a useless piece of shit? If yes, then it's marxist.
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Hunger Games was pretty meh but I liked the old guy's point that went like "give them a little hope but not too much". Of course they didn't intend it but it says what that entrepreneur striverdom is for.
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Haven't seen it, sounds like a good movie tho. Great dialogue. Makes u think.
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Havent seen it -- but, Hell, Love that part..
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Red_Canadian posted:

Maybe it's just because I see everything through the prism of class struggle nowadays, but does it seem like there is a lot of media nowadays advocating revolution?
I know there always are undercurrents, but it seems like movies, not-punk music, seem to advocate revolution more than it used to. And even justifying violent revolution. Is it just me or does anyone else know what I mean.




Yeah it's called Recuperation and there's zero radical or revolutionary potential, it's harmful and distracting.


The Hunger Games, for example, despite having the faintest marxist logic (productive classes oppressed by non-productive rulers) actually never articulates the situation in this way and instead uses the Neoliberal mythology of Big Government ruining everything for honest conservatives trying to be Free to dominate each other instead.