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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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just because something was in reality a miserable failure that ended in millions of deaths doesn't mean the idea itself is discredited
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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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what has Science wrought
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we definitely need to control the quality of our genetic stock, much like your posting
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many good socialists were eugenicists. hellen keller, for example, or hitler
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Agreed OP. I found this article very compelling, from our friends at http://www.dailystormer.com/hotwheels-why-i-support-eugenics/
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paging roseweird except she left and will never come back. she had some good pro-eugenics arguments and how we should let all men die out and use test-tubes to make all our future babies so that women could live in lesbian-socialist paradise.
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FAILAIDS posted:

Agreed OP. I found this article very compelling, from our friends at http://www.dailystormer.com/hotwheels-why-i-support-eugenics/



If we had eugenics the founder of 8 chan wouldn't live a life of crippled embittered agony. That's a pretty good counterargument

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Poronto
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how can goatstein support eugenics when he has a child
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i hope roseweird is having a better time doing whatever she's doing now
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roseweird was good, and i also wish all men would die , except for myself, since it turns out i'm one of the good ones
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roseweird is probably right

also there's probably some argument to be made that every child should be as capable as possible to contribute and also to be happy and fulfilled, therefore, ...
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c_man posted:

i hope roseweird is having a better time doing whatever she's doing now


Going by the statistics, probably committed suicide.

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Eugenics implies that there is something of humanity worth saving, which is objectively untrue. The true knowledge revealed by the light of revolutionary science is not that the mass of humanity should be winnowed for the extraction of a pure idealized branch of mankind but that, having conspired amongst themselves toward the extermination of homo sovieticus, homo sapiens is unsalvagable and must perish from the earth.
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Not Your S.H.I.E.L.D.
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I Support Eugenics. Not because im a good communist (which i am), but because it just makes good horse sense
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I agree with eugenics.We should take care of people who are threats to our species as a whole. Like the people that consciously set the carbon emissions towards suicidal rates, or those who intentionally expand the borders of NATO.
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I agree with eugenics: All people who support eguenics should be killed.
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Dont Mess With Sucess
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https://github.com/offapi/rbac-23andme-oauth2
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Not Your S.H.I.E.L.D.
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anti-eugenics is code for anti-choice
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Scientists have found a clear and identifiable genetic marker for sociopathy. Which means there is literally a Capitalist gene. By screening, identifying, and sterilizing all bearers of this gene, we could usher in Full Communism in only a single generation. #thisiswhyineedeugenics
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Eugenics as a means towards genocidal racism and eugenics as a means towards female separatism are two completely different things. In fact they're opposites: one restricts reproductive freedom while the other is a condition for it.
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is that freedom for reproduction or freedom from reproduction. because in all good conscience i only support Eugenics being used for one of those things
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You know who else supported eugenics?

While the romantic numskulls of Nazi Germany are dreaming of restoring the old race of Europe’s Dark Forest to its original purity, or rather its original filth, you Americans, after taking a firm grip on your economic machinery and your culture, will apply genuine scientific methods to the problem of eugenics. Within a century, out of your melting pot of races there will come a new breed of men – the first worthy of the name of Man.

One final prophecy: in the 3rd year of the Soviet rule in America you will no longer chew gum!
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marimite posted:

Eugenics as a means towards genocidal racism and eugenics as a means towards female separatism are two completely different things. In fact they're opposites: one restricts reproductive freedom while the other is a condition for it.



epic this

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Another argument for eugenics: we could finally rid the world of the scourge of Portugal
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le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

Another argument for eugenics: we could finally rid the world of the scourge of Portugal



Neo-Lustotropicalism will bury you, comrade.

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le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

we could finally rid the world of the scourge of Portugal


the European Central Bank?

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The notion that life only has rights, not by reason of need, but by reason of merit and capacity, is a foundational principle of aristocracy and the negation of democracy in any meaningful sense of the word. Eugenics is this denial applied to the processes of social reproduction.

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That so many socialists have advocated for it only goes to show how much of leftist politics (particularly in the metropoles) is determined by the habits of bourgeois ideology, the ambition for prestige and position found in certain subgroups within the petite bourgeois castes, and the influence of outright reactionaries like Nietzsche, not by the interests of the masses in general or the weakest elements thereof.
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actually it's perfectly in keeping with high modernist socialist ideology. and Nieztshce is coal.
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Perfectly in keeping with high modernist "socialist" ideology, please do tell.
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NoFreeWill posted:

actually it's perfectly in keeping with high modernist socialist ideology. and Nieztshce is coal.



I follow the guiding star of Koba, and reliance on Schopenhauerian Irrationalist fossil fuel is the road to destruction.

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Also, since when have you cared for remaining loyal to 'modernism', socialist or otherwise? Your sweeping ecological and social pessimism would seem to preclude that.
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If 'from each according to his ability to each according to his need' is the transition that is being sought, then the superman, or the anarch, or the sage, or whatever name you want to give to a hypothetical superior human type is a very low priority indeed. Such a being, if they were really so qualitatively superior to the common run of humanity, would neither fear or depend on "us" for anything. Rather, it is the weakest and most vulnerable that would become the highest social concern if Blanc's maxim was taken seriously, for they are the one's who both have the greatest number of needs and least ability to achieve them without the assistance of others.


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RedMaistre posted:

Also, since when have you cared for remaining loyal to 'modernism', socialist or otherwise? Your sweeping ecological and social pessimism would seem to preclude that.


i'm anti-modernist, what I'm saying is that socialism is essentially a modernist project, during a period when technological optimism made sense and was shared by capitalists and socialists alike. and eugenics (technological control of reproduction) was one aspect of high modernism, so it's not surprising that people from both political camps were interested in it.

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i can't imagine a utopian socialism that doesn't include eugenics, tbh.
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NoFreeWill posted:

i can't imagine a utopian socialism that doesn't include eugenics, tbh.



Good riddance to utopia, then.

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Also I'm a pessimist because we focking lost m8...
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RedMaistre posted:

The notion that life only has rights, not by reason of need, but by reason of merit and capacity, is a foundational principle of aristocracy and the negation of democracy in any meaningful sense of the word. Eugenics is this denial applied to the processes of social reproduction.



Counterpoint: Uncontrolled third-world reproduction rates are the literal grease that Global Capitalism relies upon to keep its gears from grinding to a halt

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Shrinking Capital's available labor pool will force the emergence of the very contradictions and reconfigurations that will inevitably lead to its annihilation. And when Global Socialism is born from its ashes we can once again take off the uterine shackles, unleash the full reproductive force of Mankind, and reach for the literal AND figurative stars....