#441
g-4qYRRS3Xw
#442
if you need dental work done and youre poor i highly encourage checking to see if there are community NGOs that do dental work in your area. for example
#443
please take care of your teef
#444
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#445
everyone, dental care is important. an ounce of prevention is worth several thousand pounds (joke for the brits here) of cure
#446
https://twitter.com/jk_rowling/status/748473204075827200

J.K. Rowling
‏@jk_rowling J.K. Rowling Retweeted Charlotte Rhiannon
I forgot Dumbledore trashed Hogwarts, refused to resign and ran off to the forest to make speeches to angry trolls.
#447
Sam Kriss ‏@sam_kriss 3h3 hours ago
i hate jeremy corbyn because he's not as good as a magical wizard i invented in my head! please listen to my political insight
#448
you are partially forgiven dead ken.
#449
Guardian Lol

https://archive.is/eMQyP


http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2016/jun/30/jeremy-corbyn-appears-compare-israeli-government-islamic-state-labour-antisemitism-review

...


#450
jeremy corbin must be punished for being insufficiently antagonistic to the will of the general electorate
#451
#452
dumbledore actually did refuse to resign
#453

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

you are partially forgiven dead ken.


i can't find it now but i'm pretty sure he was just repeating someone else who made almost the same comment

#454

drwhat posted:

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

you are partially forgiven dead ken.

i can't find it now but i'm pretty sure he was just repeating someone else who made almost the same comment



found it:

J.K. Rowling
‏@jk_rowling J.K. Rowling Retweeted Charlotte Rhiannon
I forgot Dumbledore trashed Hogwarts, refused to resign and ran off to the forest to make speeches to angry trolls.

#455
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#456

tpaine posted:

can we get a kickstarter going for dr. cat's dentist bill


i have a good job it's just that i gave all my money to a journalist lady to drive around america with a camera

Edited by drwhat ()

#457
goonsay
#458
Do they really call him Jez?
#459

EmanuelaBrolandi posted:

Do they really call him Jez?


in england you can call anyone <consonant><vowel>zza (or just z) as a shortening of their name or something like that

everything in england is tied with social class consciousness and idk what class that identifies you as but it's a thing

#460

drwhat posted:

tpaine posted:

can we get a kickstarter going for dr. cat's dentist bill

i have a good job it's just that i gave all my money to a journalist lady to drive around america with a camera



Teeth are important. We use them to eat, which is how we survive.

#461

drwhat posted:

tpaine posted:

can we get a kickstarter going for dr. cat's dentist bill

i have a good job it's just that i gave all my money to a journalist lady to drive around america with a camera



Teeth are important. We use them to eat, which is how we survive.

#462
Teeth are important. We use them to eat, which is how we survive.
#463
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#464
Why pay for a dentist when you can join an anarchist street collective that flash robs all the Ensure you'll ever need?
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#467
Our Jewish fiends are no more responsible--
#468
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#470
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#471
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#472
one of the MPs stirring up trouble against corbyn has a history as an american informant lmao

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/749255548344885248
#473

drwhat posted:

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

you are partially forgiven dead ken.

i can't find it now but i'm pretty sure he was just repeating someone else who made almost the same comment


this came up on my twitter feed again so i'm putting it here for posterity

this is the person that sam kriss follows who was actually funny in the first instance:

julia
‏@orientdistress
I'm a grown woman who can only understand complex geopolitics through the fantasy land for children I created myself
12:50 PM - 30 Jun 2016
https://twitter.com/orientdistress/status/748483769670180864

julia should have an account here. and sam kriss shouldn't. qed

#474

Panopticon posted:

one of the MPs stirring up trouble against corbyn has a history as an american informant lmao

https://twitter.com/wikileaks/status/749255548344885248



so what's going on in UK? still doing everything we want?? good good.

#475

drwhat posted:

julia should have an account here. and sam kriss shouldn't. qed



sam's is funnier, more "rhizzone" if you will.

#476

drwhat posted:

drwhat posted:

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

you are partially forgiven dead ken.

i can't find it now but i'm pretty sure he was just repeating someone else who made almost the same comment

this came up on my twitter feed again so i'm putting it here for posterity

this is the person that sam kriss follows who was actually funny in the first instance:

julia
‏@orientdistress
I'm a grown woman who can only understand complex geopolitics through the fantasy land for children I created myself
12:50 PM - 30 Jun 2016
https://twitter.com/orientdistress/status/748483769670180864

julia should have an account here. and sam kriss shouldn't. qed



That's not really a joke it's just being mean to a stranger in an obvious way.

#477

Keven posted:

That's not really a joke it's just being mean to a stranger in an obvious way.


ok, then this person was mean to a stranger in an obvious way before this other person

#478
since there is currently a ChickenCoup enacted by blairites (and is there a chance their leader could be held accountable for his war crimes?) it spurs me to ask about communist organising: blair was famous for 'governing by focus group', supposedly making policies based on what people were saying at them -- see the current rush by right wing labour mps talking tough on immigrants for a latest example.... how does this differ from proper 'mass line' communist organising?

currently reading a few different guides by different CPs and curious if people here have any thoughts.
have been thinking about this as our housing network develop principles and demands to campaign for by public and community engagement and wondering if this counts as proper mass line work
#479
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#480

xipe posted:

how does this differ from proper 'mass line' communist organising?

Just as an aside to this... It's probably true that a lot of Maoist slogans were just formulaic aphorisms that restated obvious things. With the cult around Mao they did take on a sort of guru quality, and in foreign countries you had academics like Althusser playing with the slogans to seem profound.

Ranciere famously insulted (his teacher) Althusser for this. Althusser worked out a discussion on how the "masses alone create history" as some basis for historical materialism when if you read Mao on the actual subject all he was really saying was that the masses were heroic and that leaders could often be stupid.

"Dare to struggle, dare to win" also probably means something like "we should be eager to discuss problems openly and eager to act on them" even though it sort of bounced around and became something like "take huge risks for the cause". In English it ended up being interpreted almost as an inversion of the phrase "nothing ventured, nothing gained" (with the same meaning).

Much of the stuff around "the mass line" was already explicit in socialist organizing literature for a long time. It probably developed as a full-fledged theory largely to distinguish Mao from the Soviet line and people around it like Liu Shaoqi (who had promoted his own hugely popular view of socialist organizing). Many Maoists admit it is wholly derivative and just say that it was the consolidation of the practice under Mao that made it useful when combined with people's war theory. One of the slogans around this was "a minority with the correct revolutionary line is no longer a minority", which suggests merging with the masses on equal terms to achieve common goals but isn't that profound.