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for me the funny part of that was being like "I'm totally super socialist" and offering up a long list of reasons why that is almost entirely left-liberal.

but i just don't have it in me to hate left liberals. this is partially (but only partially, believe me) because I am one, but it's mostly because both center-liberals and non-liberal rightists have cranked up their grotesqueness to 11 so even if Freddie is a fake socialist at least he and his get points for being recognizably human
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freddie is right, the talk about violent revolution is mostly posturing for left cred
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thirdplace posted:

for me the funny part of that was being like "I'm totally super socialist" and offering up a long list of reasons why that is almost entirely left-liberal.

but i just don't have it in me to hate left liberals. this is partially (but only partially, believe me) because I am one, but it's mostly because both center-liberals and non-liberal rightists have cranked up their grotesqueness to 11 so even if Freddie is a fake socialist at least he and his get points for being recognizably human



i don't "hate" them at all, i post constantly about engaging with left-liberals on here and practice what i preach, and to me there's a big gap between the sort of left-liberal who might be reached by left messages and the sort that writes an article in AD 2016 about how "when" (lmao) the United States intervenes in Syria, it will tear "the left" apart, based on an article in Socialist Worker about the "Assad-Iran-Russia Triple Alliance".

i have been reading deboer for years ever since he was piggybacking on Democrat blogs to get his stuff read, and if anything he's moved to the right since he found his niche among "leftists" who flutter their hands and freak out over anti-imperialism in a behind-the-times bid to look "serious". the problem with deboer isn't that he's a left-liberal, it's that he's a reactionary in the most active and real sense.

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le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

freddie is right, the talk about violent revolution is mostly posturing for left cred



he's a frightened schoolmarm

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cars posted:

thirdplace posted:

for me the funny part of that was being like "I'm totally super socialist" and offering up a long list of reasons why that is almost entirely left-liberal.

but i just don't have it in me to hate left liberals. this is partially (but only partially, believe me) because I am one, but it's mostly because both center-liberals and non-liberal rightists have cranked up their grotesqueness to 11 so even if Freddie is a fake socialist at least he and his get points for being recognizably human

i don't "hate" them at all, i post constantly about engaging with left-liberals on here and practice what i preach, and to me there's a big gap between the sort of left-liberal who might be reached by left messages and the sort that writes an article in AD 2016 about how "when" (lmao) the United States intervenes in Syria, it will tear "the left" apart, based on an article in Socialist Worker about the "Assad-Iran-Russia Triple Alliance".

i have been reading deboer for years ever since he was piggybacking on Democrat blogs to get his stuff read, and if anything he's moved to the right since he found his niche among "leftists" who flutter their hands and freak out over anti-imperialism in a behind-the-times bid to look "serious". the problem with deboer isn't that he's a left-liberal, it's that he's a reactionary in the most active and real sense.

huh, never seen him talk about foreign policy before, if its that shit then I retract my halfhearted half-defense

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fair enough... FYI the article I mentioned is https://www.currentaffairs.org/2016/11/syria-and-the-reemergence-of-mccarthyism and Deboer uses his vague anti-anti-imperialism for the purpose of a gigantic concern troll about the entire left disintegrating, written from the perspective of a guy who doesn't seem to have the slightest clue about the debate he's discussing. If you read the comments you can see how this is one of the niches that Deboer has moved to fill, performing wacky Kremlinology on left discussion for liberals who read something like the name "Socialist Worker" and think Ooh, all the real serious socialists must read that one.
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Friction? Problem solved. Lyft Shuttle incorporates our latest innovation, the Glydewidget. A round miracle, four of which are strategically attached to the corners of the Shuttle undercarriage in such a way that it allows a smooth and efficient ride to your destination.
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Imagine: a series of Lyft Shuttles that are linked together, allowing hundreds of Lyft customers to travel along a pre arranged route at once. Seem like a traffic risk? No problem: the Lyft FuunRide travels its route... entirely underground.
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When u was a kid I thought the BART train was sponsored by the simpsons or something
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thirdplace posted:

cars posted:

thirdplace posted:

for me the funny part of that was being like "I'm totally super socialist" and offering up a long list of reasons why that is almost entirely left-liberal.

but i just don't have it in me to hate left liberals. this is partially (but only partially, believe me) because I am one, but it's mostly because both center-liberals and non-liberal rightists have cranked up their grotesqueness to 11 so even if Freddie is a fake socialist at least he and his get points for being recognizably human

i don't "hate" them at all, i post constantly about engaging with left-liberals on here and practice what i preach, and to me there's a big gap between the sort of left-liberal who might be reached by left messages and the sort that writes an article in AD 2016 about how "when" (lmao) the United States intervenes in Syria, it will tear "the left" apart, based on an article in Socialist Worker about the "Assad-Iran-Russia Triple Alliance".

i have been reading deboer for years ever since he was piggybacking on Democrat blogs to get his stuff read, and if anything he's moved to the right since he found his niche among "leftists" who flutter their hands and freak out over anti-imperialism in a behind-the-times bid to look "serious". the problem with deboer isn't that he's a left-liberal, it's that he's a reactionary in the most active and real sense.

huh, never seen him talk about foreign policy before, if its that shit then I retract my halfhearted half-defense


he wrote a buttmad article about LF yesterday
https://medium.com/@freddiedeboer/subculture-to-counterculture-to-culture-9a402075b290

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lmao
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How on Earth can you write the below, and think posting it is a good idea? Do you really think that this sounds sensible and not batshit insane? Seriously dude I’m not a big fan of yours but some friendly advice: next time, just breath and put the keyboard away. Apply your intellectual energies into something more productive than showcasing your translucently thin skin.



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this is some of the most self-defeating posturing i've read

he defensively poisons the well of "Mad Online"-ness, but he's still so invested that he'd never admit emotional investment (in fact, the real Mad ones are the "tribes of angry dudes" calling him out). he can't be owned because the whole concept of "not being owned" is a borderline-incoherent goal in the sphere of human interaction (but you know, not in the richard dawkins way of saying it). he's combating "nth-degree irony" by being Above It All, and he got there by sifting and slopping through the same muck for a suitable value of n+i

it's almost poetic, really

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if someone is doing "ironic racism" or "ironic misogyny" thenm i can get the complaints but that's not mentioned in the piece so i think it's pointless navel-gazing & concern trolling about people deigning to enjoy a certain form of humor online. like who really cares, if someone doesnt like those jokes they can follow serious accounts and read serious sites or ofc go to serious irl meetings and events. also he doesnt seem to recognize that using irony at times doesnt preclude a person from also being sincere, for instace, this post
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Social media is websites.
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roseweird posted:

i just gave it a quick read and i don't know any background on this person but i thought it was mainly talking about conflicting messages of "internet irony stuff doesn't really matter, politically" and "the dsa is successfully enlarging its ranks and radicalizing its members with memes", and complaining that organizations can't have it both ways... either that stuff matters, and has an effect on organizing, or it doesn't matter (and is a waste of time, which is not to say don't do it, but don't mix it up with stuff that matters). sounds correct regardless of whether you care about the dsa or not. but twitter/fb/whatever he is talking about is mysterious to me so i guess i'll accept almost anything anyone postulates about it


yeah i also read it pretty quickly but im not really sure what the built-in contradiction is between "people enjoy funny people" and "after funny socialist people did memes and irony jokes now people are joining the DSA"; that seems to line up perfectly actually, but the article is presented as a criticism. so i guess the claim seems to be that the irony used in lefty circles is cynical and inherently self-defeatist or something which is harmful, in spite of the evidence it isn't, abd this then allows freddie to introduce the contradiction of how does it work and how do we stop acting this way. when again i think the critique is kind of invented and being projected onto people who are just enjoying a type of humor that's funny to them.

then again there was some stuff about a culture of owning people online or something that im not sure how it ties in so maybe i breezed through it a little too quickly.

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tl;dr
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i think part of it is just that people have been calling him out on some questionable opinioneering lately (i think the main one this week was him suggesting white people are driven to racism by discussions of racial privilege) and he's not taking it well. i'm not saying that there's nothing worth discussing in his attempt to generalize from that, but in context it just seems like he's just bitter about being challenged
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Constantignoble posted:

he's just bitter about being challenged


from everything ive seen him post over the years this seems to be most of his personality

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none of us have any experience with this of course
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there's a huge mythology built up around LF across the entirety of the extremely online political spectrum and while the specifics of this mythology are variable it's treated as though it is or was the prime mover of left activity on the internet but then you remember that at most LF had 600 registered browsing it at any given time and most of them were indistinguishable morons
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imgur is going to stop allowing embedded images so goodbye to half the internet.
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the market is usually a more efficient solution because government spending tends to be wasteful and riddled with failures. now if you'll excuse me i need to find the next set of dudes who will blow through $200 million running a free image host that folds inside three years
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le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

imgur is going to stop allowing embedded images so goodbye to half the internet.


this cant be true can it

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https://blog.imgur.com/2017/06/21/a-new-look-for-direct-links/
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le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

there's a huge mythology built up around LF across the entirety of the extremely online political spectrum and while the specifics of this mythology are variable it's treated as though it is or was the prime mover of left activity on the internet but then you remember that at most LF had 600 registered browsing it at any given time and most of them were indistinguishable morons




LF was 98% bump this thread every time Obamas name sounds like Osama & the most typing fuck this gay earth photos you got threads & the fact that 8 years later a few people like the T5000 are actual useful organizers and a few others like Sam K and Big Jeb have burgeoning pundit careers are at best an accident of time and place. Most of the name changed to James K Polk and bought a black and white avatar of James K Polk crew have happily returned their normie, white noise lives.

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le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

https://blog.imgur.com/2017/06/21/a-new-look-for-direct-links/




Every image hosting service in history that hasn't died via becoming too popular commits suicide like this eventually.

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i remember there was one image host, i think it was called imgred or something, all these names are as generic as soviet toilet paper, anyway the gimmick there was that you didn't even need to visit the site you just put http://imgred.com/(existing picture url) inside the img brackets and using autismancy it became hosted there. that had the lifespan of a chainsmoking mayfly
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Markets for ether, the cryptocurrency linked to the ethereum distributed computing platform, were rocked yesterday by a huge flash crash that saw prices fall from over $365 down to as low as 10 cents on one exchange before bouncing back shortly afterwards—an event that is mildly worrying for anyone concerned about cryptocurrency volatility, but has had devastating consequences for some professional traders who have seen their holdings wiped out.
https://motherboard.vice.com/en_us/article/mbjyk4/heres-how-traders-lost-millions-in-the-first-ethereum-flash-crash



so someone made a cryptocurrency named after a deprecated failed concept for the empty void of space, and it's worth nothing? we are trapped in an onion article
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Extremely smart cutting edge venture capitalist: yes hello i would like to buy millions of dollars of Literally Nothing
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Actually smart and wise investor: I would like to buy the idea of a hog growing to an adult.
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what we should really be doing is extremely advocating for the investment of all capital in etherneum so that everything can crash to hell and we can all get on with the obvious
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automated cryptocurrency trading algorithms that make mad profit off of Pure Volatility are coming and will make the first few hundred adopters incredibly rich before thoroughly destroying all cryptocurrency forever
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invest in ether
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ilmdge posted:

he wrote a buttmad article about LF yesterday
https://medium.com/@freddiedeboer/subculture-to-counterculture-to-culture-9a402075b290



LMAO hi frederick.

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c_man posted:

from everything ive seen him post over the years this seems to be most of his personality



true.