#41

jools posted:
yeah i like the stuff built next to the docks because its just so fucking horrible

also ken my ex's dad was some kind of london planning bigwig (and a trot) and he said they wanted to put a massive fountain on the top of the gherkin. if only



lmao if they'd done that..... when it was finished didnt they have a bunch of fireworks "cum" out of it or something

#42

deadken posted:
i had an internship at the independent, its offices are just south of canary wharf and after three weeks working there i can confirm that the whole area is a soulless hellscape made even worse by the revolting fringes of landscaped grass and smug public sculpture. the bright barren underground network of malls that underlies the whole complex like a rhizome from which the towers protrude could have been built as franz kafka's own personal ironic hell. the smugly ubiquitous little references to the area's dockland history only cement the total erasure of the isle of dogs' proletarian history, instead they focus almost exclusively on the cargo, the goods, the profits. the grey piazzas, the pseudo-rustic pubs full of braying thatcherites, the dinky little pedestrian bridges.... canary wharf needs to be carpet-bombed, burn it all down



Agreed, also add the jaunty little ye-olde nautical themed directional signs, yuk yuk yuk.

I’m a massive nerd so on our European holiday while my girlfriend was shopping I would go out to Docklands, and La Defence in Paris and even EUR in Rome which is unbelievably slummy, I’ve never seen so much wet garbage on the ground in a business district.

I kinda liked La Defence but again the scale was just wrong, the plazan too monumental for the toy-skyscrapers. I’m coming to the conclusion that Europe just can’t do skyscrapers properly, it’s not their natural vernacular and most of the time they just look wrong.

#43
lloyds owns though yeah. i think the pinnacle thing theyre building in the city is an interesting design esp. w/ its lil nods to tatlin, although obviously its just going to be another vertical prison full of miserable office workers and a couple loathsome oligarchs
#44
yeah la defense is windswept and alienating but not in a good way, theres some good architecture there and centring it around that arch thing was an interesting idea but it doesnt really work as a whole. frankfurt cbd is like the one place where they do an american-style cluster right i think. oh yeah when i was in naples i was kinda surprised to see a bunch of skyscrapers in the centre, they were just a money-laundering thing for the mafia and are mostly empty lol
#45
Hahaha oh yeah I noticed them in Naples, that makes sense.

Basically though the problem is the kind of architects who look at Dubai and think that London or Paris need some “iconic” developments like that.

And as much as I like the idea of forcing muscular modernism on twee old romanticism, the Pompidou centre is laaaaaame.

My favourite building in London to be honest was probably the Barbican complex, I’ve never seen or been in anything like it before.
#46
the worst/best recent building is that fucking terrifying one with giant fans in the top, it looks like the combine tower from halflife 2
#47
/a lightsaber handle. it looks like its partly clad in the black matte plastic that you find on the bodies of cheap mobile phones
#48

Ironicwarcriminal posted:
Hahaha oh yeah I noticed them in Naples, that makes sense.

Basically though the problem is the kind of architects who look at Dubai and think that London or Paris need some “iconic” developments like that.

And as much as I like the idea of forcing muscular modernism on twee old romanticism, the Pompidou centre is laaaaaame.

My favourite building in London to be honest was probably the Barbican complex, I’ve never seen or been in anything like it before.



yes the barbican and the south bank centre own. did you see trellick tower

#49
yeah the barbican is fucking awesome, proof that brutalist projects dont lead to social disintegration as long as you fill them with upper middle class people Lol
#50

jools posted:
the worst/best recent building is that fucking terrifying one with giant fans in the top, it looks like the combine tower from halflife 2



in elephant and castle? i kinda like it, it got named carbuncle of the year by the mail or whatever

#51

jools posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:
Hahaha oh yeah I noticed them in Naples, that makes sense.

Basically though the problem is the kind of architects who look at Dubai and think that London or Paris need some “iconic” developments like that.

And as much as I like the idea of forcing muscular modernism on twee old romanticism, the Pompidou centre is laaaaaame.

My favourite building in London to be honest was probably the Barbican complex, I’ve never seen or been in anything like it before.

yes the barbican and the south bank centre own. did you see trellick tower



I've seen pictures but didn't get to see it when I was there, it looks cool though. Have they sold all the flats in there off to yuppies?

Central London really is still a remarkable mix of rich and poor compared to santitized Paris, yuppified Manhattan and gentrified Sydney (all of our worst estates are on the suburban fringe). I don't imagine that that will survive the next ten years though.

#52
well theyve changed housing benefit policy to ensure that haha
#53

deadken posted:

jools posted:
the worst/best recent building is that fucking terrifying one with giant fans in the top, it looks like the combine tower from halflife 2

in elephant and castle? i kinda like it, it got named carbuncle of the year by the mail or whatever



i like it in the same way i like that hitler wanted senate house to be his headquarters

actually iwc senate house is cool too

#54

jools posted:

deadken posted:

jools posted:
the worst/best recent building is that fucking terrifying one with giant fans in the top, it looks like the combine tower from halflife 2

in elephant and castle? i kinda like it, it got named carbuncle of the year by the mail or whatever

i like it in the same way i like that hitler wanted senate house to be his headquarters

actually iwc senate house is cool too



Just looked at it on wikipedia and yeah it was cool, I remember admiring it when i went out the back of the British museum next to (Russell?) square......a few more gargyles and spikes and it could almost be one of the Moscow seven sisters hahaha.

British Library was cool in a weird way too. The Tate is sweet but slightly off angle with the bridge over to St Pauls which grated on me in a fussy, low-key sort of way.

#55
jesus christ stop talking about london!
#56
Why dont you come to london
#57
london is a cool place. when i went it was full of moslem ppl. there was a lady wearing a burka irl and i laughed
#58
i bet you wore big white trainers and trousers with an elastic waistband w/an old navy polo shirt tucked in
#59

Goethestein posted:
london is a cool place. when i went it was full of moslem ppl. there was a lady wearing a burka irl and i laughed



Yeah but don’t you live in like Ely, Nevada or something where a dude not wearing a cowboy hat is grounds for mocking mirth?

#60
You should go to London impper, it's a happening place...an alpha world city....Chicago seems cool but is probably a touch....provincial
#61
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Talk:Islamic_views_on_anal_sex
#62

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

Goethestein posted:
london is a cool place. when i went it was full of moslem ppl. there was a lady wearing a burka irl and i laughed

Yeah but don’t you live in like Ely, Nevada or something where a dude not wearing a cowboy hat is grounds for mocking mirth?



i live in boston and have for the last two years. please update goatsteinfacts.xls

#63

Impper posted:
jesus christ stop talking about london!



the whole area round st pauls is awful, esp pasternoster square, and one new change is the crown turd. cool views from the roof though i guess. also: what's the deal with the north bank

#64
actually chicago felt like a REal City except there was less people. chicago is a zombie; london is a vampire
#65

deadken posted:

Impper posted:
jesus christ stop talking about london!

the whole area round st pauls is awful, esp pasternoster square, and one new change is the crown turd. cool views from the roof though i guess. also: what's the deal with the north bank



you mean like embankment? you got MI5 and shit there m8

#66

jools posted:
i bet you wore big white trainers and trousers with an elastic waistband w/an old navy polo shirt tucked in



and yet as long as you were on the island i wouldnt be the whitest man in england

#67

Goethestein posted:

jools posted:
i bet you wore big white trainers and trousers with an elastic waistband w/an old navy polo shirt tucked in

and yet as long as you were on the island i wouldnt be the whitest man in england




lmao

#68
There aren't really white or black people in England anyway, everything's grey
#69

jools posted:

deadken posted:

Impper posted:
jesus christ stop talking about london!

the whole area round st pauls is awful, esp pasternoster square, and one new change is the crown turd. cool views from the roof though i guess. also: what's the deal with the north bank

you mean like embankment? you got MI5 and shit there m8



i mean the entire north bank,. theres literally nothing of worth there between westminster and the tower. city of london school? that blue monstrosity with all corners and shit? various anodyne low-rise offices? they should raze the whole strip and build a park or something

#70
jools spent most of his time in chicago in the cliche hipster neighborhood. the one day i invited him out to the "real shit" full of mExcian hIpsters he slept thru the nite
#71
boston is a top tier city.
#72
boston probly sucks compared to chicago
#73
chicago is a gaylord city full of midwesterners
#74
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#75

Impper posted:
jools spent most of his time in chicago in the cliche hipster neighborhood. the one day i invited him out to the "real shit" full of mExcian hIpsters he slept thru the nite



Mexican hipsters don't sound very impressive, why didn't you take him to the south side wicker park boy

#76
boston has a lot of irish rite. im just imagining kilburn high road, except an entire city
#77
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#78

deadken posted:
boston has a lot of irish rite. im just imagining kilburn high road, except an entire city



yeah its got more micks than a rolling stones lookalike convention

#79

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

Impper posted:
jools spent most of his time in chicago in the cliche hipster neighborhood. the one day i invited him out to the "real shit" full of mExcian hIpsters he slept thru the nite

Mexican hipsters don't sound very impressive, why didn't you take him to the south side wicker park boy

mexican hipsters own, + the south side isnt exactly dangerous unless you're talking the south south side. but you can get stinking drunk in bridgeport, around 30-35th, and you'll be fine. maybe a hobo will offer to suck you off for $10

#80
im going to write a scholarly essay on hybridity and cultural appropriation regarding the phenomenon of white cockney backing vocals on grime tracks