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http://www.sfgate.com/business/technology/article/US-secretly-built-Cuban-Twitter-to-stir-unrest-5372422.php

WASHINGTON (AP) — The U.S. government masterminded the creation of a "Cuban Twitter" — a communications network designed to undermine the communist government in Cuba, built with secret shell companies and financed through foreign banks, The Associated Press has learned.

The project, which lasted more than two years and drew tens of thousands of subscribers, sought to evade Cuba's stranglehold on the Internet with a primitive social media platform. First, the network would build a Cuban audience, mostly young people; then, the plan was to push them toward dissent.

Yet its users were neither aware it was created by a U.S. agency with ties to the State Department, nor that American contractors were gathering personal data about them, in the hope that the information might be used someday for political purposes.

It is unclear whether the scheme was legal under U.S. law, which requires written authorization of covert action by the president and congressional notification. Officials at USAID would not say who had approved the program or whether the White House was aware of it. The Cuban government declined a request for comment.

At minimum, details uncovered by the AP appear to muddy the U.S. Agency for International Development's longstanding claims that it does not conduct covert actions, and could undermine the agency's mission to deliver aid to the world's poor and vulnerable — an effort that requires the trust and cooperation of foreign governments.

USAID and its contractors went to extensive lengths to conceal Washington's ties to the project, according to interviews and documents obtained by the AP. They set up front companies in Spain and the Cayman Islands to hide the money trail, and recruited CEOs without telling them they would be working on a U.S. taxpayer-funded project.

"There will be absolutely no mention of United States government involvement," according to a 2010 memo from Mobile Accord Inc., one of the project's creators. "This is absolutely crucial for the long-term success of the service and to ensure the success of the Mission."

The project, dubbed "ZunZuneo," slang for a Cuban hummingbird's tweet, was publicly launched shortly after the 2009 arrest in Cuba of American contractor Alan Gross. He was imprisoned after traveling repeatedly to the country on a separate, clandestine USAID mission to expand Internet access using sensitive technology that only governments use.

USAID said in a statement that it is "proud of its work in Cuba to provide basic humanitarian assistance, promote human rights and fundamental freedoms, and to help information flow more freely to the Cuban people," whom it said "have lived under an authoritarian regime" for 50 years. The agency said its work was found to be "consistent with U.S. law."

Sen. Patrick Leahy, D-Vt., and chairman of the Appropriations Committee's State Department and foreign operations subcommittee, said the ZunZuneo revelations were troubling.

"There is the risk to young, unsuspecting Cuban cellphone users who had no idea this was a U.S. government-funded activity," he said. "There is the clandestine nature of the program that was not disclosed to the appropriations subcommittee with oversight responsibility. And there is the fact that it was apparently activated shortly after Alan Gross, a USAID subcontractor who was sent to Cuba to help provide citizens access to the Internet, was arrested."

The AP obtained more than 1,000 pages of documents about the project's development. It independently verified the project's scope and details in the documents through publicly available databases, government sources and interviews with those involved in ZunZuneo.

ZunZuneo would seem to be a throwback from Cold War, and the decades-long struggle between the United States and Cuba. It came at a time when the historically sour relationship between the countries had improved, at least marginally, and Cuba had made tentative steps toward a more market-based economy.



lol, welcome to the world. one-sentence op quoting a news article with catchphrase.

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666 grimes es puto 6
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wow. thank god they dont do that here!
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in holland in the 70s the secret service created an entire fake maoist party, complete with a representative to china in beijing, just to record and document the people who asked to become members:

http://espressostalinist.com/2012/04/05/comrade-chris-petersen-was-big-in-china-and-albania-project-mongol-tell-all/

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why does the US still give a fuck about cuba. jesus

one socialist state left, gotta catch em all
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ilmdge posted:

why does the US still give a fuck about cuba. jesus

one socialist state left, gotta catch em all


You forgot Venezuela, which we're equally obsessive about.

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ilmdge posted:

one socialist state left

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Venezuela is social-democratic as getfiscal always reminds us so that leaves us with Cuba and North Korea as the only true remaining socialist states.
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The U.S. is concerned with the mere possibility that a socialist state will experience success if not politically subverted at every turn.
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sometimes i think i should spend a lot of time learning about cuba and then i get the feeling that it won't "matter" because the country is already restructuring itself so rapidly and it's possible it'll be a vietnam clone in a decade. but there are a lot of right-wing assumptions that feed into that idea, like the idea that globalization will continue in its current form for decades and so on. so i guess i should learn spanish.
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lotta drama in tha patinkins
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tpaine posted:

it's pathetic. getfiscal actually found my number and started prank calling my wife, all because i sent him a dead bird in an amazon box

you're not even allowed to hunt bald eagles in america i thought. you're fucked up dude.

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will globalization fart out like a candle in the wind when china reaps the whirlwind of its low paid workforce finally demanding the low hanging fruit of their Sisyphean labors. Im communist tom friedman
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I actually agree with Cinnamon Bastard on a few fair things and I will go through them one by one (I discussed them with Socratic Moron today)
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tpaine posted:

espresso stalinist dot com



ahah i dont know what that website is, i was just looking for a clear summary. he seems to like hoxha.. hoxha was pure pwnage so maybe espresso stalinist is cool?

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Globalization is basically just a watchword for American imperialism. Its use really took off during the Clinton administration as a euphemism for global American power, and it was deployed alongside "international community" and later developed into several concepts that include neoconservative PNAC stuff and Responsibility to Protect 'humanitarian' warfare.

This fact is helpful in putting these 'revelations' on Cuba in perspective: it doesn't really matter if there is a socialist nation left, the imperial project will deploy these tactics opportunistically even against partners and satellites like, say, Egypt (though socialist nations of course would be the priority targets). Even bourgeois nations are subject to this law, which is why sometimes the 'national/patriotic' bourgeois align with revolutionary movements (often opportunistically) against empire. This is what Maoists refer to as a contradiction in the global system. It doesn't really matter if its Cuba, or decidedly nonsocialist countries like Syria (or Russia), these tactics are a structural matter in imperial rent and extraction, ie. they *will* be used irrespective of purely ideological considerations.

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getfiscal posted:

so i guess i should learn spanish.



lets do it, donald. got my cuban rosetta stone ready to go, bags packed and im ready to teach english at communist university

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wait, nevermind, nothing to see here folks

"Suggestions that this was a covert program are wrong," said White House spokesman Jay Carney. "Congress funds democracy programming for Cuba to help empower Cubans to access more information and to strengthen civil society."

He added: "In implementing programs in non-permissive environments, of course, the government has taken steps to be discreet. That's how you protect the practitioners and the public."

Obama and his aides support "efforts to help Cuban citizens communicate more easily with one another and with the outside world," Carney said, though he added that "I'm not aware of individuals here who knew about" this particular program.
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"democracy programming"

i think that just might be the phrase of the month right there.
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the north korean state fell apart in the 90s, their economy is mostly market based now (even though it's illegal). even before then they had hereditary ruler and slave castes (songbun) so i dont think they should be thought of as ever having been socialist, except in the liberal (ie wrong) sense of "the state has too much power"
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nice anti-dprk propaganda there libtard. "baw baw slave castes" no it's called the dictatorship of the proletariat
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i'm a liberal.
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"hate the liberalism, love the libber"
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Crow posted:

This is what Maoists refer to as a contradiction in the global system. It doesn't really matter if its Cuba, or decidedly nonsocialist countries like Syria (or Russia), these tactics are a structural matter in imperial rent and extraction, ie. they *will* be used irrespective of purely ideological considerations.

it's probably useful to note that maoists didn't consider cuba socialist, and saw it as essentially a puppet regime of soviet imperialism. contemporary maoists also tend to oppose 'lesser-evilism', and criticize chinese and russian imperialism, which is why most of them oppose assad.

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i like how the red army faction's groundbreaking may 1982 position paper GUERILLA, RESISTANCE AND ANTIIMPERIALIST FRONT explained why the science of maoism had dialectically evolved past babby's first anti-soviet student radicalism and that true revolutionaries should accept brezhnev into their hearts
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downvoted for josswhedonphilia
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wddp
#36
there really needs to be a linguistic divide enshrined between female and woman, feel like it might help with the murky nonsense between gender identity and biological/chromosomal identity
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Panopticon posted:

the north korean state fell apart in the 90s, their economy is mostly market based now (even though it's illegal). even before then they had hereditary ruler and slave castes (songbun) so i dont think they should be thought of as ever having been socialist, except in the liberal (ie wrong) sense of "the state has too much power"



FBI spotted

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who all's on twitter. whats your twitter handle. let's get friendly online
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ilmdge posted:

why does the US still give a fuck about cuba. jesus



hot resort and timeshare opportunities

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viva fidel