getfiscal posted:

I'm not going to attack random Jews. Those days are over.

indeed, these are the days for systematically attacking very specific jews in an organized fashion.

palafox posted:

the skver aren't super open about it but they're also anti-zionist, so i don't think that the rabbi was wrong to bring the hammer down. i guess youthful haredi rebellion entails loving m&ms, marc antony, and the IDF, which means that I really gotta start looking for haredi novels. imagine the haredi equivalent of new yorker-lit, elaborate faceless grey ennui about collapsing marriages and the miseries inherent to bourgeois striving, but over little Rivka's being led astray by some seductive balding schlub who took her to a TGI friday's once

but hasidim aren't haredim...

and also yeah every hasid i've ever talked to about it (like 3) is anti-israel so this seems weird to me.

tpaine posted:

oy

y-IPZTT2NBA

tpaine posted:

palafox posted:

hasidim are haredim, but many haredim aren't hasidim.

many haredim aren't hasidim, but all hasedims are hesadic? but all hardems aren't hasids? all hasirms are...hodoyim? uh

jon stewart: "hasi- buh? whaaaa?" *eyes pop out, smirkily jewishly* *studio audience dies of laughter and goes to hell*

tpaine posted:

what is any of this

please make a sub-forum for the jewish issues thanks. between this and the article they're spamming everywhere about the jewish doctors in new york who nibble on the penises to circumcise them, it's cluttering up all the internet

Edited by Lykourgos (Feb. 22, 2015 20:21:26)

Under the prayer shawl, Schmeltzer wore a shiny frock coat and his signature funky glasses (he wears a different pair for every occasion). A yarmulke and short curly side locks completed his look, the shawl casually draped over his shoulders in a shockingly transgressive manner.

The eleventh of twelve children, Schmeltzer had a troubled childhood. He was abused by his teachers, emotionally and physically. “I got nicknames, and smacked up every week,” he recalled when we met on the Columbia campus, where Schmeltzer is now a student.

When he began to sing at weddings and bar mitzvahs, Schmeltzer’s talent was obvious, and yet he was met with derision from within the Skver community; his music was too different, too new, too challenging. Though his songs were in Hebrew and Yiddish, mostly with words culled from religious texts, people called him “this new talent who sings like a goy,” Schmeltzer recalled ruefully.

Two weeks after the release of his third CD in 2001, Schmeltzer says the rabbinical court called him in for a hearing and told him there was too much “disco beat” for their conservative tastes. He was forced by powerful community members to place an ad in one of the Hasidic papers apologizing for the CD, which had taken him five years and all of his savings to produce. The album’s title—“Gam Zu LeTovah,” or “This is also for the best”—now seemed painfully ironic.

“They felt that I am bringing them shame,” Schmeltzer explained. And he believed them. He was plagued with feelings of guilt about the talent he couldn’t deny or reign in. In hindsight, Schmeltzer says, “I had guilt about things I should have pride about.”

The rabbinical court also made Schmeltzer promise that his future records would be more conservative, and for a while, Schmeltzer complied with their demands. It was a losing battle. As Schmeltzer put it, “my art bust forth” and with it, further bans. A network of “activists” went from school to school, pressuring principals to ban his music. Signs went up around the neighborhood depicting Schmeltzer’s face with a line drawn through it; his sister spent days tearing them down. Schmeltzer choked up when describing the shame that his father—a Holocaust survivor and great adherent of the Skverer Rebbe—felt during this time.

“He never kissed me,” Schmeltzer said. “He said, ‘By the Hasidim, we don’t kiss,’ but now I know it was because he lost his father, it was very hard for him to connect. And he did show me love. His love was to daven for me.”

Schmeltzer faced so much harassment in New Square that he finally left,

Eventually his life became dogged by people like Avraham Schorr, a Borough Park rabbi who seemed intent on his destruction. In 2008, when Schmeltzer was supposed to sing at a concert called “The Big Event” at Madison Square Garden, 33 leading rabbis, with Schorr at the helm, signed an ad in a popular newspaper banning their followers from attending the concert. They claimed that Schmeltzer’s unique brand of music would lead to “ribaldry and debauchery,” despite the organizers’ promise to provide separate entrances for men and women. The concert was cancelled, prompting an estimated $700,000 in losses.

He says that ultra-Orthodox Judaism is full of fanatics who are power hungry and who use religious zealousness as a form of control. “The desire for control is a disease, it’s not Judaism,” Schmeltzer insisted. “It took me years to realize I didn’t need anybody’s approval, only to listen to my inner voice,” he said. “No other human being knows better than me what I should be.” He explained this thought with a Lipa-ism: “They want to put everyone in a painting. How about I should be a new painting, not for people to follow, ‘I’m going to follow this painting,’ but rather, a painting to say, don’t follow a painting.”

yep

EmanuelaBrolandi posted:

gyrofry will u go on a date w me to a bongripper show in august?

Rhizone is "the Facebook of hasidic sex"

EmanuelaBrolandi posted:

gyrofry will u go on a date w me to a bongripper show in august?

change dru's name to bon gripper