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Understanding the role of branding in society requires an understanding of the transition to modernism and postmodernism. With this transition, community institutions outside of the capitalist accumulation process like religious services and extended family had to be attacked and degraded to create room for the ascendancy of the nuclear family, consumerism, and identity-through-commodities.

By reducing the individual from a member of a community to a supposedly independent unit, it makes them far more manipulable, less likely to resist the paradigm shoved on them, and subservient to the stranglehold of capitalism.

Forcing people to seek identity through what they buy is a product of reducing their ability to establish an identity based on community. The differences between brands of magazines, newspapers, and periodicals have far less to do with differentiation in content, but are instead a method of dividing up consumers into different income brackets.

One of the best examples today is Stratfor. It exists entirely as a magazine that is meant for wealthy people to acquire a self-identity as "wealthy", the analysis inside of it is not markedly different from that found in other establishment magazines.

Identity-through-commodities is the driving force of postmodernist capitalism, and it achieves this through branding. Branding is the ultimate result of the contradictions between art and capitalism. Art's goals are two-fold; to create emotions in the audience and express the desires, feelings, and emotions of the artist. The latter has to be suppressed to fulfill capitalism's only goal: expansion. Expansion through the creation of desire is the foundation of advertising, and branding is how it tells people what to feel.

Brands have become our most famous forms of art. In Super Size Me, Morgan Spurlock interviews first graders, and they immediately recognize fast food icons like Ronald McDonald but have trouble recognizing the Europeanized version of Jesus.

Branding is designed to smash the barriers between needs outside of the capitalist accumulation process and needs that can be fulfilled through consuming. Olive Garden's slogan, "when you're here, you're family" is part of capitalism's drive to degrade familial bonds, and literally sell people the feeling of family. What used to be a part of everyday life is something that people feel they must pay for. They aren't just buying shitty Italian fast food, they're buying an experience of intergenerational bonding that existed before the implementation of the nuclear family.

Real life is becoming inseparable from what we see in advertisements. Our relationships with others are merely seen as an emotional tie to be manipulated. Take this 90s McDonald's ad as an example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIlix4TJb40

These advertisements instruct people how to behave. Ride BMX! Drive with your friends! but if you want to have a good time doing it, you better be going to the Golden Arches

It is instructing kids that they are supposed to take the tray, they are supposed to be happy when they do it, and that McDonald's is their favorite place.

But brands don't always push emotions on the audience, they sometimes force the audience to push their emotions on the advertising itself. Hello Kitty, which is basically advertising for the huge number of Hello Kitty products, doesn't have a mouth for this specific reason. Spokespeople for Sanrio have said that Hello Kitty does not have a mouth because they want people to "project their feelings onto the character" and "be happy or sad together with Hello Kitty."

They're selling every emotion to their consumers, they're selling friendship, they're selling the feeling of identifying with another person.

It's important to recognize that this is only possible because of the constant degradation of familial and community ties as well as the degradation of community-based identity. In our hyper-individualistic society, people replace family with food, they replace deep emotional friendship with toys, and they use these products to create an identity.
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i wrote this for tumblr, but im guessing most people here won't find anything new in here. many critiques of advertising don't mention the role that individualism and the degradation of community play, so i wrote one that did
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Stratfor is just The Economist a week later and several hundred times more expensive.

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very nice but it would benefit from being longer. maybe give some history of brand as identity
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also add stuff about sign economy, disappearance of the subjective, etc
#7
they're pragmatic. association to a brand helps to make consumer decisions rather than leaving a potential consumer in lurch of too many options provided by capitalism.
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#9
branding is an act in which enslaved animals have their asses burned with a red-hot iron
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#11
im reading a college textbook on how to design brand identity right now. gonna get rich yo.
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http://www.brandchannel.com/forum.asp?bd_id=111 lol

http://www.forbes.com/sites/onmarketing/2011/07/25/is-the-demise-of-nasa-a-failure-of-science-or-a-failure-of-marketing/
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A lot of people on the internet are against intellectual property rights and patents, but trademarks are really important. You can see how in an unregulated market, like say heroin sold in new york city, popular brands (stamps or printed logos or stickers on stamps of heroin) are copied and almost always the packet with a copied brand will be garbage. And anyone who's watched the wire saw stringer change the name of their weak package day after day, to hide its low quality.

Regulation is very important, protect trademarks, worship the Christian God
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EmanuelaOrlandi posted:

im reading a college textbook on how to design brand identity right now. gonna get rich yo.

someday we should do a brandstorming session

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Myfanwy posted:

You can see how in an unregulated market, like say heroin sold in new york city, popular brands (stamps or printed logos or stickers on stamps of heroin) are copied and almost always the packet with a copied brand will be garbage.

As a NYC resident and occasional heroin user, wrong

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swampman posted:

Myfanwy posted:

You can see how in an unregulated market, like say heroin sold in new york city, popular brands (stamps or printed logos or stickers on stamps of heroin) are copied and almost always the packet with a copied brand will be garbage.

As a NYC resident and occasional heroin user, wrong

what did i say wrong
i have a sunburn

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Myfanwy posted:

the wire

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no drug gang has ever released the same product with a new name, its not a common phenomenon at all, youre right
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swampman posted:

Myfanwy posted:

You can see how in an unregulated market, like say heroin sold in new york city, popular brands (stamps or printed logos or stickers on stamps of heroin) are copied and almost always the packet with a copied brand will be garbage.

As a NYC resident and occasional heroin user, wrong



the counterfeits are universally garbage. 99% of the time

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Myfanwy posted:

swampman posted:

Myfanwy posted:

You can see how in an unregulated market, like say heroin sold in new york city, popular brands (stamps or printed logos or stickers on stamps of heroin) are copied and almost always the packet with a copied brand will be garbage.

As a NYC resident and occasional heroin user, wrong

what did i say wrong
i have a sunburn

Stamps arent brand specific, theyre dealer specific. If multiple kinds of junk are stamped the same way, it's because they at one point came through the same supplier. Most people only have one dealer, they dont have any idea what's going on across the market.

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swampman posted:

Myfanwy posted:

swampman posted:

Myfanwy posted:

You can see how in an unregulated market, like say heroin sold in new york city, popular brands (stamps or printed logos or stickers on stamps of heroin) are copied and almost always the packet with a copied brand will be garbage.

As a NYC resident and occasional heroin user, wrong

what did i say wrong
i have a sunburn

Stamps arent brand specific, theyre dealer specific. If multiple kinds of junk are stamped the same way, it's because they at one point came through the same supplier. Most people only have one dealer, they dont have any idea what's going on across the market.



I guess that qualifies as a brand to me, because its stillt he visual representation of the end of the supply chain? And if lots of people talk and live all over the city its not that hard to get a partial picture? But you need to be friends with lots of people who do heroin. I wasn't trying to represent a general trademark landscape , not an individual's view of things. But I thank you for your clarifications and look forward to working together in the future

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Real life is becoming inseparable from what we see in advertisements. Our relationships with others are merely seen as an emotional tie to be manipulated. Take this 90s McDonald's ad as an example

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gIlix4TJb40

These advertisements instruct people how to behave. Ride BMX! Drive with your friends! but if you want to have a good time doing it, you better be going to the Golden Arches

It is instructing kids that they are supposed to take the tray, they are supposed to be happy when they do it, and that McDonald's is their favorite place.



it's almost like if parents had some more responsibility and kids had some brains, they could learn to not trust everything they see in advertisements.

Power trying to con or influence people is nothing new, and has been around under many guises for as long as human society has. Compared to getting expelled from a tribe for not following some arcane ritual, or beheaded because i didn't believe in the right God, an advertisement suggesting I may have fun if i decide to eat a hamburger doesn't seem to "oppressive" in the scheme of things huh?

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swampman posted:

Myfanwy posted:

You can see how in an unregulated market, like say heroin sold in new york city, popular brands (stamps or printed logos or stickers on stamps of heroin) are copied and almost always the packet with a copied brand will be garbage.

As a NYC resident and occasional heroin user, wrong

also, as a trade mark lawyer in training, wrong

#24
like how many times has a protected brand you recognised and relied upon been attached to a product that progressively got worse, ill wager a lot
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thanks 4 da analysis naomi
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pills have stamps a lot and as soon as some nice pills w/ a particular stamp hit the street a bunch of other manufacturers try to replicate it. thats why its kinda dumb when people are all 'yeah i got some clovers, a couple facebooks and twenty peace signs' no you dont you've got rat poison meth and paracetamol
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deadken posted:

you've got rat poison meth and paracetamol

that's my "saturday night special"

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rebuttal:
fuck your petty self-important identity
fuck your shitty proto-fascist community
fuck your parents.
#31

wasted posted:

fuck your parents.



done. see my e/n and ask/tell threads about growing up in a family which commonly practiced incest

#32

deadken posted:

thanks 4 da analysis naomi



post your tattoos in this thread bro


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they have the illest stickers on drugs in puerto rico. osama bin ladin, michael jordan, winnie the pooh, and other p good ones. they had a bag of blow at one spot called unicorn with a really funny picture of a unicorn in front of a swirly purple background which was p great. my guitar is partially covered in them, used to be like 100 but many have fallen off

AmericanNazbro posted:

ost your tattoos in this thread br



no reason, everybody in lf knows i have the best tattoos

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i earnestly want to see his tattoos, 'cuz he told me he has a tattoo with similar aesthetics to one that i want to get

plus, there is really no better place to post your tattoos than a thread about self branding in the effort to create an identity for one's self
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if your tattoo doesnt say for the win or something about dj screw then its proably 'aesthetically' gay as hell
#36
I’d rather my identity be linked to a brand rather than a king or some dead jewish euro-philosopher quite frankly.
#37
why a brand over a king
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johnny chimpo
#39

babyfinland posted:

why a brand over a king



The king has an absolutist, arbitrary authority and presence, whereas I can incorporate brands into my identity based on my own values and tastes.

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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

babyfinland posted:

why a brand over a king

The king has an absolutist, arbitrary authority and presence, whereas I can incorporate brands into my identity based on my own values and tastes.


yeah that's the problem