#12601
"Action alone creates an obstacle, hence there is no possibility of action on the part of the mind as long as it is dominated by the imagination. The one thing that can do this is concerted bodily action, or work (FW 78). The active locus of intersection is therefore the body, my body, which is my “frst tool”(FW 81). The body is the instrument that actively engages mind with its obstacle in the form of work...

The body, in work, eliminates the random play of imagination and delineates an order in the world by means of action. Weil proposes, moreover, that this order is inherently geometrical. Geometry is imbedded in the perceptual imagination and in the motions of the body alike, such that elective work is always based on methodical recombinations of the simple idea of straight-line movement (the simplest movement of thought that can be traced out by the imagination). Te body acts according to the same geometrical order that the imagination employs to perceive and structure the world. This cooperation of passive(imaginative) and active (bodily) movement takes possession of the world by turning it into an obstacle. This is the work of the imaginative body, For Weil finally concedes that body and imagination are one: 'It appears that there is no contradiction involved in reducing the imagination to the human body, and in making it the only instrument of knowledge for everything concerning the world.' "

From Simone Weil's Phenomenology of the Body
http://www.academia.edu/3614697/Simone_Weils_Phenomenology_of_the_Body


May we all be granted a share in the materialism of mystics.

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#12602
Friction alone creates an obstacle
#12603
smdh at calling all concerted bodily action work... that looks interesting tho. i'm reading Radical Ecopsychology which combines phenomenology, hermeneutics and a bunch of other stuff but frequently ends up in lala land talking about the spirit and how we should worship nature. I'm also reading Virtuous Violence which is a theory about how people use morally-motivated violence to regulate their social relationships. It is based off a relation-models theory which seems decent but one of the universal categories of relations it posits is Market Pricing which is rather ahistorical (though they lump all kinds of non-market hierarchical valuation into that category)
#12604

NoFreeWill posted:

smdh at calling all concerted bodily action work... that looks interesting tho. i'm reading Radical Ecopsychology which combines phenomenology, hermeneutics and a bunch of other stuff but frequently ends up in lala land talking about the spirit and how we should worship nature. I'm also reading Virtuous Violence which is a theory about how people use morally-motivated violence to regulate their social relationships. It is based off a relation-models theory which seems decent but one of the universal categories of relations it posits is Market Pricing which is rather ahistorical (though they lump all kinds of non-market hierarchical valuation into that category)



Somehow, I knew that it would be up your alley...

In creating the world, Weil posits, God turns himself into necessity (N 190). The great and small orders of universe and body are concatenated together within this one infexible universal order of necessity—which she understands in a complex Spinozistic-Stoic sense (McCullough 2013, chaps. 4 and 6). This order requires that the body submit to a strict discipline in contact with the world. truly to learn about the world is to undergo it bodily, obediently, and this becomes the whole preoccupation of mind, thoroughly embedded as it is in the body (N 107)

#12605
Currently I am reading the posts, in this thread.
#12606
http://www.theeuropean-magazine.com/slavoj-zizek/9774-slavoj-zizek-on-ferguson-and-violence

lol
#12607
I'm currently reading One Dimensional Man by H. Marcuse. It's a pretty good book so far, and I think the points he makes about control societies and advanced industrial society complicated class warfare to a point which is almost depressing are good. Anyway I'd recommend it though you've all probably read it.
#12608

hashish_nasrallah posted:

I'm currently reading One Dimensional Man by H. Marcuse. It's a pretty good book so far, and I think the points he makes about control societies and advanced industrial society complicated class warfare to a point which is almost depressing are good. Anyway I'd recommend it though you've all probably read it.

one of my favorites, and the full text is available here for anyone who wants to read it.

#12609
wow that... wasnt goatse. what is happening to this forum
#12610
a genuine interaction on the rhizzone... this isn't what i joined for
#12611
Edit: You should check out Peter Dews if the issues Herbert Marcuse raises intrigues you.

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#12612

stegosaurus posted:

wow that... wasnt goatse. what is happening to this forum


goatse is one of my favorites. the full image is available here for anyone who wants to see it

#12613
i asked this b4 but i forgot where the answers are but what are like 3 basic anarchist books for babies (mental). please in editions colours matched 2 my DIY pleather diapers (brown)
#12614

NoFreeWill posted:

i asked this b4 but i forgot where the answers are but what are like 3 basic anarchist books for babies (mental). please in editions colours matched 2 my DIY pleather diapers (brown)

#12615
anarchist kookbook
#12616

NoFreeWill posted:

i asked this b4 but i forgot where the answers are but what are like 3 basic anarchist books for babies (mental). please in editions colours matched 2 my DIY pleather diapers (brown)


https://libcom.org/thought/anarchist-communism-an-introduction
https://libcom.org/library/what-is-anarchism-alexander-berkman
https://libcom.org/library/what-anarchism-introduction
http://www.crimethinc.com/tools/downloads/pdfs/anarchy_and_alcohol_reading.pdf

#12617
thx
#12618

In certain circles, especially the ones in which the word “anarchy” itself is more in fashion than any of its various meanings, freedom is conceived of in negative terms: “don’t tell me what to do!” In practice, this often means nothing more than an assertion of the individual’s right to be lazy, selfish, unaccountable for his actions or lack thereof.



damn i guess i'm an anarchist after all... well bye

#12619
"a history of indian freedom struggle" by e.m.s. namboodiripad

http://bookzz.org/dl/2381697/b3ab67
#12620
i'm a Samarchist
#12621
im reading the 700+ page Bernie Sanders thread on SA


#12622

NoFreeWill posted:

i asked this b4 but i forgot where the answers are but what are like 3 basic anarchist books for babies (mental). please in editions colours matched 2 my DIY pleather diapers (brown)



You should read Capital instead

#12623
i read volume 1 on the job i'm gonna finish 2 and 3 at some point.
#12624
i went to the anarchist bookfair and talked to some folks and got a book by studs terkel which is an anthology of people complaining about their shitty jobs which is exactly Upmeinstrasse at the moment
#12625
dude if you want a lot of people complaining about their jobs, i am going to have a hell of a website for you in a little bit
#12626
I'm reading the biographies of comedians, to try to be better at Hoxhaist meme creation.
#12627

stegosaurus posted:

dude if you want a lot of people complaining about their jobs, i am going to have a hell of a website for you in a little bit

Finally the drama from the Dilbert roleplaying subforum can stop spilling over into Laissez's Faire every dog damn day

#12628
my friend was complaining to me the other day about how he doesn't want to have a 9-5 job that he goes to everyday for the rest of his life and i was just thinking "man, that sounds awesome."
#12629
one of my best friends from highschool's idea of an eventual aspiration is a job where they give him a chair
#12630
im petitioning for a standing desk he can have my chair
#12631
Studst Urkel
#12632

c_man posted:

one of my best friends from highschool's idea of an eventual aspiration is a job where they give him a chair

so how is lowtax

#12633
please dont insult my friend
#12634

c_man posted:

one of my best friends from highschool's idea of an eventual aspiration is a job where they give him a chair


me too

#12635
im reading a series of posts by an llco member claiming sincerely that they actually are doing tons and tons of grassroots activism because they are clandestinely sending money to revolutionary orgs in the 3rd world honest i swear but they can't tell you what any of those orgs are because its clandestine and a secret and they have to maintain operational security, also his dad works for Nintendo
#12636
i think there was a mini-scandal within the socialist party (england and wales) a few years ago about them sending funds to a foreign branch of their international affiliation and the recipient just pocketing it
#12637
that recipients cool
#12638

littlegreenpills posted:

i went to the anarchist bookfair and talked to some folks and got a book by studs terkel which is an anthology of people complaining about their shitty jobs which is exactly Upmeinstrasse at the moment


My Dad just gave me Studs Terkel's Hard Times from his library, I've been collecting oral histories of people in the depression era for a project on the struggle for narrative control of socialist history and its gradual erasure from our collective memory.

On that same subject, while on vacation I read Barry Broadfoot's 10 Lost Years, a similar book consisting of interviews with canadian survivors of the Depression. There is a degree of typical cold-war political editorializating, for example the chapter "Was Revolution Possible?" states that the popular labour movement could never have gained traction and insists that no one ever listened to the Reds, despite multiple stories attesting to the fact that the on-to-Ottowa trek was coordinated and held together by Communist organizers.

#12639
double post
#12640
i've been reading a selection from the prison notebooks of gramsci but i was rly interested by the historical background about Turin during the pre-WWII days and reading about their interactions w/ the Russians...

are there any good books on the North Italian / Turin workers movement or whatever? or like about the ineractions between the german, italian, russian communists within the movement in general i'd also like to read something like that