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robert
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robert conquest did a lot of important work, and though he was villified by the left-partisans, consequent scholarship redeemed his efforts. god bless.
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Where does the left desire to deny that gulags were a big deal come from. Is it because they were depicted as concentration death camps in the western media? when they were just regular prison camps, or is it something else
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Myfanwy posted:

Where does the left desire to deny that gulags were a big deal come from. Is it because they were depicted as concentration death camps in the western media? when they were just regular prison camps, or is it something else



they really are portrayed as concentration camps when they probably were on par with the american prison system for the most part

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iut comes from klackloy kleekleck
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hobotorium posted:

they really are portrayed as concentration camps when they probably were on par with the american prison system for the most part



except w/ less black ppl and no HBO series' for adults depicting life within them

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hobotorium posted:

Myfanwy posted:

Where does the left desire to deny that gulags were a big deal come from. Is it because they were depicted as concentration death camps in the western media? when they were just regular prison camps, or is it something else

they really are portrayed as concentration camps when they probably were on par with the american prison system for the most part

That makes sense, I guess there are weird reverberations in left stuff that come from the comintern times when they didn't realize they were being manipulated by the ussr to make all communists look like jerks for the lifetime of anyone from the era

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the american prison system is an atrocity, a gulag if u will
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babyfinland posted:

the american prison system is an atrocity, a gulag if u will

it's worse than the GULAG. lasts longer + is more racist.

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the american prison system is an atrocity,



Agreed. And I mean, like, if the holocaust actually happened levels of atrocity, not, like, you at an all you can eat buffet category atrocity

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Cycloneboy posted:

babyfinland posted:

the american prison system is an atrocity, a gulag if u will

it's worse than the GULAG. lasts longer + is more racist.



shut the fuck up

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Cycloneboy posted:

it's worse than the GULAG. lasts longer + is more racist.



also SEXIST (disproportionately punishes male rapists over female rapists!!!!)

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EmanuelaOrlandi posted:

Cycloneboy posted:

it's worse than the GULAG. lasts longer + is more racist.

also SEXIST (disproportionately punishes male rapists over female rapists!!!!)

like 90% of the folks in prison are dudes so, yeah, it's pretty sexist. i'm pretty sure the GULAG was too tho.

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Cycloneboy posted:

i'm pretty sure the GULAG was too tho.



(citation needed)

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also, with the rise of the prison industrial complex it has actually been black WOMEN who have gotten incarcerated at a much higher rate. black men have always been getting put in jail / executed by the police for a long time... with the war and drugs and etc... the imprisonment of WOMEN of color has been increased at a much higher rate (not in sheer numbers, but statistically)
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The whole raison d'etre of serfdom and the Archipelago is one and the same: these are the social structures for the ruthless enforced utilisation of the free-of-cost work of millions of slaves.
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babyfinland posted:

The whole raison d'etre of serfdom and the Archipelago is one and the same: these are the social structures for the ruthless enforced utilisation of the free-of-cost work of millions of slaves.

except it was actually more costly to keep someone in the GULAG than let them work as a free man or woman.

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Cycloneboy posted:

babyfinland posted:

The whole raison d'etre of serfdom and the Archipelago is one and the same: these are the social structures for the ruthless enforced utilisation of the free-of-cost work of millions of slaves.

except it was actually more costly to keep someone in the GULAG than let them work as a free man or woman.



thats a general rule of imperialism

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babyfinland posted:

The whole raison d'etre of serfdom and the Archipelago is one and the same: these are the social structures for the ruthless enforced utilisation of the free-of-cost work of millions of slaves.



that sounds very revisionist, I doubt a feudal lord would have said that.

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wrong thread, edit nevermind the rumors. its all been sorted out privately.

Edited by babyfinland ()

#23
joel was here
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#25
plzes stop talkin about israel
#26

tpaine posted:

people often say "dick conquest" when talking about me as well.


rape isn't a laughing matter

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admins please change my username to richard conquest
#30
admins change my username to Dick Conquest.
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tpaine posted:

Rape.

thjhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhisssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssssss

#32

tpaine posted:

Rape.



You could almost say he has a rapeir wit

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http://aol.sportingnews.com/nba/story/2012-06-20/miami-heat-okc-thurnder-nba-finals-2012-gilad-shalit

this happened and we all let it happen
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#35
why did they let you out
#36
the real question is why do you care
#37

Superabound posted:

the real question is why do you care


GARBAGE LIKE THIS IS GOING TO SEND YOU RIGHT BACK TO THE HOLE, LITTLE BUDDY

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#39
its not funyn and its not interesting, we know israel is bad. post some jokes or something, or if its important then post someting interesting. God is GOOD
#40
why did israel cross the road