Alyosha posted:Because I thought the common misconception about the relationship God has with the universe deserved clarification. What do you think, deadken, of the objections by other posters that the established creation doctrine of the Church is "absurd" and "new age"?
For something so obvious, many people do not seem to understand it. In fact, it stirred up controversy and denials by the so-called theologians of this forum. So, I don't understand your claim that it was a post so obvious it was not worth making.
p sure the established creation doctrine of the church doesnt refer to heat death + spacetime, & that it was the general arsiness of your post that was being objected to, not the assertion that god is not identical with the universe, which even hippie advaita types recognise, Fucker
Alyosha posted:What was "arsy" about my post? And yes, the Church does acknowledge scientific phenomena. It officially acknowledges the Big Bang theory. Hell, the guy who first proposed the theory was a Catholic priest. It has always been their position that the creation account in Genesis is allegorical.
is allegorical the same thing as made up bc if so i agree w/the babyrapoers
Alyosha posted:What was "arsy" about my post? And yes, the Church does acknowledge scientific phenomena. It officially acknowledges the Big Bang theory. Hell, the guy who first proposed the theory was a Catholic priest. It has always been their position that the creation account in Genesis is allegorical.
If they do that’s lame as hell
The “big bang” is the most frayed and weak link in the whole notion of science. I keep asking scientists what was there before the big bang and they can’t give me a proper answer, it sounds like stupid drivel.
Ironicwarcriminal posted:If they do that’s lame as hell
The “big bang” is the most frayed and weak link in the whole notion of science. I keep asking scientists what was there before the big bang and they can’t give me a proper answer, it sounds like stupid drivel.
where are you meeting all these scientists? i thought you lived in Oz
Alyosha posted:Whether you like it or not, the Big Bang is well supported by evidence. As for what came before it, the Church regards it as the creation event. So it's not problematic for the Church like it is for atheistic scientists.
Yeah that's what i'm saying, the church has it's story straight about these but science-types sputter and moan and fog up their glasses when pressed on what was around before the big bang
Impper posted:the warhammer multiverse
is that the one where millions of people pray to the all-powerful ghostman who sits on a Golden Throne to protect them from hordes of Helldemons? lol
there is no 'before', it's turtles all the way down.
Transient_Grace posted:science in fact considers the 'big bang' to be a creation event and views the question of 'what was before the big bang' to be illogical. how can you pose a chronological question discussing temporal primacy referring to the event which is the starting point of time?
there is no 'before', it's turtles all the way down.
yeah and for people who sperg out about logic and rational observation the whole time it's pretty unconvincing
littlegreenpills posted:Australian dismisses general relativity on grounds of there being no immediately comprehensible beer analogy
how pissed ya get is relative to how many tinnies youse can sink bruvva
EmanuelaOrlandi posted:Why would God or his prophets or apostles talk about a Something Awful forums account? wtf...
Verily, verily, I say unto you, DO NOT FUCK WITH DEBT
TG posted:i want these fucking forums posts cited proper chicago style
Dude..
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Where can I learn more about this course and who should I contact?
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:Transient_Grace posted:science in fact considers the 'big bang' to be a creation event and views the question of 'what was before the big bang' to be illogical. how can you pose a chronological question discussing temporal primacy referring to the event which is the starting point of time?
there is no 'before', it's turtles all the way down.yeah and for people who sperg out about logic and rational observation the whole time it's pretty unconvincing
Hm pretty smart
tpaine posted:Accepted by who? I would assume, whatever that is, that 'generally' people, whatever those are, dont know, whatever that means, what heat death is let alone accept, whatever that entails, is at the prognosis of the 'material universe,' whatever that is
Superabound posted:Frequently Asked Questions
Do I need to be able to surf?
You do not need to be able to surf to complete this degree.
Which programs am I eligible for after completing this course?
After completing this course you are eligible for postgraduate programs in business, education, science or similar areas. If your course average is high enough, you may be eligible to participate in an honours program, after which you can pursue a Masters or Doctorate by Research.
How much money can I expect to make in my field of study when I graduate?
The annual salary of graduates varies. However research has shown that ECU graduates working in their field of study tend to earn annual salaries between $35,000 and $45,000 per year in their first job after graduation.
How much time will I have to commit as a full time student or as a part time student?
Part time students are expected to commit from 9 to 18 hours of study a week, whereas full time students are recommended to commit from 27 to 36 hours of study a week. This includes the time spent in class and labs.
When are the classes scheduled for this course?
The classes for this course are scheduled around the availability of lecturing staff and facilities. In the past students have had on campus activities compacted into three days per week. Classes are in session 30 weeks per year.
Can I study externally, by correspondence or online?
Most of this course is delivered on campus, however some elective units may be studied by correspondence or online. All Surf Science specific units are on campus only. The campuses are either South West Campus (Bunbury) or the Margaret River Education Campus. However, you may decide to take some units externally for your electives.
If I study externally, by correspondence or online what kind of resources, facilities and support will I have access to?
You will have access to all resources and support an on campus student would have. This includes academic skills workshops, free internet access from home, 24 hour access to the on campus computer labs, student email and web access, Blackboard (Online learning system), access to on-line databases for researching, IT support, counseling, and more.
Can I use the campus facilities, resources and support if I choose to study externally, by correspondence or online?
Yes you can. Studying externally means you will not attend lectures, however you can use all the campus facilities mentioned above. However, on campus lecturing staff will not be available to you as an external student, and you will not be able to attend classes on campus even if on campus classes are offered in your area of study.
What kinds of facilities are available to me on the South West Campus (Bunbury)?
The South West Campus (Bunbury) has a modern library, three computer labs with broadband internet and 24 hour access, internet wireless area coverage, printing facilities, bookshop/cashier, student accommodation, student common room, campus café, and other amenities.
What are the advantages of studying on the South West Campus (Bunbury)?
South West Campus (Bunbury) offers a small classes and a relaxing environment for learning and socialise. The advantages include but are not limited to:
More attention from your lecturers.
Easy to park.
Nice and relaxing atmosphere.
Staff knows you by your name not by your student number.
Reduced number of students.
Modern facilities.
Close to the beach and the best surf breaks in WA.
Specifically relating to the Surf Science course, advantages are:
Classes close to or in Margaret River where we have internationally renowned surf.
Lecturing staff who are surfers themselves.
A strong regional surf community in Margaret River , Yallingup, Dunsborough and Denmark .
A dedicated materials science lab for researching, developing and manufacturing surfboards.
On campus student accommodation with a high proportion of surf science students and other surf enthusiasts.
Library books with surf related content.
Can I use credits from another university course or TAFE toward my degree?
Yes you can. You may be granted advanced standing depending the TAFE Diploma or university degree course and the age of the units.
How long will I take to complete the program?
You can complete the program in 3 years if you study full time or 6 years if you choose to study part time.
How much are the fees and other expenses (textbooks, photocopying, lecture guides, materials) for this course?
You should budget around A$150 per unit for textbooks, photocopying, lecture guides, materials.
Will I have exams in this course?
Yes, some units assessment are made on a examination basis while other units may be assessed through assignments.
Will I have practica, work experience or internship requirements in this course?
No.
Who will help me select the right units for my program?
Your course coordinator can help you selecting the units for your program.
What if I want to take a break from studying?
You can defer your studies for up to 12 months. If you take longer then 12 months, your status as a current student will lapse and your will be required to re-apply to gain admission into the program. Generally speaking, students are required to complete their course within 10 years.
I wish to come to Australia to study from overseas, how can I apply for this program?
International Students can find detailed information on how to apply on our Future Student Web Site under the "international" link.
I have qualifications from overseas, are they recognised in Australia?
If they are equivalent to a similar qualification in Australia they are likely to be recognised. However, we recommend that you have your qualifications evaluated by applying to us. There is no application fee.
Will my course be recognised internationally?
ECU degrees are recognised internationally.
How much does this course cost?
Commonwealth Government support is only available to Australian Citizens. However, if you are a permanent resident there are certain exceptions that might apply to you. Learn more about eligibility for permanent residents on this page http://www.goingtouni.gov.au/
For fee information, visit the ECU Fees website.
When can I apply for this course?
Please contact us for the next intake.
Is this course offered in any other state of Australia?
This course is only offered at Edith Cowan University South West Campus (Bunbury) and the University of Plymouth in the UK.
Can I transfer from University of Plymouth?
Yes you can, please keep in mind that some restrictions may apply.
Where can I learn more about this course and who should I contact?
You can find detailed information about this course on http://southwest.ecu.edu.au/surf/ .
ECU South West Campus (Bunbury) admissions team are available to help you in your application through the email southwest@ecu.edu.au or by phone (61 8) 9780 7777.
Where can I learn more about this course and who should I contact?
You can find detailed information about this course on http://southwest.ecu.edu.au/surf/ .
ECU South West Campus (Bunbury) admissions team are available to help you in your application through the email southwest@ecu.edu.au or by phone (61 8) 9780 7777.
Australia's harvard
This would be pretty cool except that surfers off Margaret River have a nasty tendency recently to be ripped in half by great white sharks
Superabound posted:youre right, basing your cosmological beliefs on
psalmssongs and the insane scribblings of hermetic incel fantasy adherents is really really stupid
what the fuck are you talking about you idiot
Superabound posted:Impper posted:the warhammer multiverse
is that the one where millions of people pray to the all-powerful ghostman who sits on a Golden Throne to protect them from hordes of Helldemons? lol
wtf