http://www.cbc.ca/news/world/story/2012/12/27/obituary-norman-schwarzkopf.html
i had his trading card in the gulf war cards set.
Goethestein posted:how come the chinese cant figure out democracy lol. its been like 3000 years of civilization
chinese democracy took forever to make and then when it came out it sucked
Goethestein posted:my favorite Troop apologist bullshit of all time is How Were They To Know That They Were Going to Go To War. i could see the validity in that argument, in, say, 2002, 2003, maybe 2004, although they did sign a contract that clearly stated "you may very well go to war" and any sped with two neurons to rub together might have noticed that we invaded three or four countries in the two decades prior to 9/11. but whatever. military contracts last eight years. if you were bonehead enough to sign up for the military september 10th, 2001, your military contract ended september 10, 2009. every single person who is in the military today either signed up or re-upped long after it was clear that we were at war and were going to continue to be at war. to say nothing that the active duty timeframe lasts from only 2-4 years and they severely cut back on calling up reservists in 2007.
neurons dont rub each other. idiot
gyrofry posted:yes he deserved to die and i hope he burns in hell
still better than albright
Navy SEALs are having the best year and a half ever. We've been inundated with tell-all books, documentaries, and big-budget action movies (the upcoming Zero Dark Thirty) about the special-ops frogmen... and then there's that whole Team-Six-killing-Osama thing. We're beginning to think there's no task too big for these badasses. Just to make sure, we asked 17-year SEAL veteran Don Mann—author of the US Navy SEAL Survival Handbook and a Team Six trainer—how the SEALs would handle a few epic missions of our own devising. And by "our," we mean Hollywood's.
Click on to see how the SEALs would handle the harrowing moment of movies from Return of the Jedi to The Dark Knight Rises.
Return of the Jedi (1983)
Scenario: A morbidly obese kingpin imprisons a carbonite-encased pilot in his palace, which is populated with armed minions.
Mann: "A team of 14 SEALs fast-rope down from a helicopter onto the roof, then go through either a skylight or window to clear the house from the top down. Anyone with a weapon is a threat, and SEALs shoot the threats. Anyone who isn't they zip-tie and put on the floor with a hood on their head. Snipers are outside, making sure nobody's escaping. We clear room to room, looking for that pilot."
Willow (1988)
Scenario: An evil queen holes up at the top of a high-walled castle, protected by archers and swordsmen. The gates open only from the inside.
Mann: "A Special Purpose Insertion and Extraction rig lets seven or so guys hang on a helicopter line—they can come off the line or provide security from the line, shooting into the castle. The archers and swordsmen are easily taken out by these snipers. Throw in gas and the rest come out choking; rush in with gas masks on, put a gas mask on the queen, hook her to the SPIE rig, and pull her out from the top."
Dawn of the Dead (2004)
Scenario: An outbreak has forced a group of SEALs to hole up in a mall, surrounded by zombies (the fast kind).
Mann: "Being SEALs, they'd already have an escape plan figured out. But with the outbreak, they don't want to leave a safe environment to go out into an area that's been contaminated. They may be better off sitting in that shopping mall until help arrives. But the first thing to do is get a transmission to the outside. Then get into RadioShack and make a bomb. Use it to create a diversion on one side of the mall to get those zombies rushing over there."
The Dark Knight Rises (2012)
Scenario: Terrorists have cut a large city off from the outside world and trapped the police. They have a nuclear bomb, which they're driving around on a truck, with decoy trucks.
Mann: "Our people fast-rope out of helos and come up in boats and swim to shore armed. If we find the target truck, they can detonate the bomb, so we need to have CBR (chemical/biological/radiological) gear available. Whatever trucks our intel has told us they could be driving we follow by helo with armed guys, and then it's actions on the objective—secure the truck drivers so they can't detonate the device."
stop posting and listen to this song forever and ever
*service animals are given ranks in the military, no i am not making this up
unfortunately now i'm not suitable for military service due to the following minor issues:
- severe mental health problems
- borderline obese
- strong opposition to authority
- extreme left politics
- dislike for regimentation
- critical of basic mission of modern military
but like if being in the military entailed casual practice shooting, doing logistics work ever so often, having a cool rank and such then i'd be on top of that.
tpaine posted:it was classist
true.
getfiscal posted:i love the military and have frequently wanted to join it.
unfortunately now i'm not suitable for military service due to the following minor issues:
- severe mental health problems
- borderline obese
- strong opposition to authority
- extreme left politics
- dislike for regimentation
- critical of basic mission of modern military
but like if being in the military entailed casual practice shooting, doing logistics work ever so often, having a cool rank and such then i'd be on top of that.
so basically you just want to start a militant cell
Crow posted:so basically you just want to start a militant cell
either that or watch season one of sleeper cell again.
getfiscal posted:i love the military and have frequently wanted to join it.
unfortunately now i'm not suitable for military service due to the following minor issues:
- severe mental health problems
- borderline obese
- strong opposition to authority
- extreme left politics
- dislike for regimentation
- critical of basic mission of modern military
but like if being in the military entailed casual practice shooting, doing logistics work ever so often, having a cool rank and such then i'd be on top of that.
welcome to the national guard.
getfiscal posted:i love the military and have frequently wanted to join it.
unfortunately now i'm not suitable for military service due to the following minor issues:
- severe mental health problems
- borderline obese
- strong opposition to authority
- extreme left politics
- dislike for regimentation
- critical of basic mission of modern military
gyrofry posted: