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"Master Plan" with the help of German scientists
North Korea prepares for speedy opening of the economy

04.01.2013 · The communist North Korean regime has apparently already concrete plans for an economic opening of the country to foreign investors. According to the FAZ Pyongyang is advised by German economists and lawyers.

North Korea is planning an economic opening of the country to foreign investors. According to the FAZ, the communist country and with the advice of discreet German economists and lawyers. "There is a master plan," said a scientist involved in the deliberations of this newspaper. "They want the opening later this year."

Interest in the impoverished and isolated country shows especially in a modern investment legislation. For the opening, however, apparently does not copy the Chinese model primarily with special economic zones for foreign investors. "Rather, they are interested in the Vietnamese blueprint, where companies are specifically selected for investment," said the scientist, who teaches at a prestigious German university.

North Korea's dictator Kim Jong-un was announced on New Year's Day for a "radical change" to the politics of his country , and talked like a possible reunification with the South. The young dictator who after the death of his father Kim Jong-Il adopted in late 2011 to power, announced also that 2013 would bring a "radical change of course" in economic policy, in order to make the country an "economic giant". The agriculture and light industry stood at the center. Should enforce the reformers, but could also foreign, non-Chinese investors to get access. So far there are the Rason special economic zone at the northeastern border with China. The uncle of the dictator, Jang Song-taek, the observer as the aunt as "gray eminences" look has, negotiating with the Chinese in the autumn on the establishment of two additional special zones on islands to the west of the country, but where so far done little.

Dispute over travel of the Google Board chief

Meanwhile, the U.S. State Department has criticized a planned tour of the Google Board boss Eric Schmidt and former Governor Bill Richardson to North Korea. The timing was not "particularly helpful". Schmidt and Richardson knew that the government rejects their plans. According to the CNN wanted the two embark on a "private humanitarian mission". Main goal is to secure the release of an American.

North Korea's international isolation. From an "economic giant", the country is far away, but it is totally impoverished. There were repeated famines, the power fails often. The country is technologically stopped at the booth about fifty years ago and had a "completely rotten manufacturing economy," said a German economist who has visited the country several times. Experts estimate the North Korean productivity levels only about 5percent of South Korean levels. In industry and agriculture completely outdated techniques are used, there are also hundreds of thousands of forced laborers in re-education camps, the build order as roads or fields.

Only the military sector is relatively modern and is supported by an enormous investment. "Military first" policy is the motto. "The military controls the economy, and it is enriched here," says one observer. In the military district in the center of Pyongyang, which is for the general population is not so easy to access, there is better housing, military personnel ride western or Japanese cars, such as Mercedes, and can be purchased in special shops western imports. In a special Chinese-Korean department store approximately flat television screens are offered.

For some time, there are tentative approaches to economic reform, in limited areas is small entrepreneurship tolerated. During the famine of the nineties is simple markets have formed, where the population fruit and vegetables traded, now there is also a wider range of cheaper clothing and electrical goods. Larger companies may still not be out of private initiative.

So far, North Korea recruits mainly to Chinese investors. They are particularly interested in the vast mineral resources of the country. Not only are there precious metals, but also rare earths in North Korea. In part, the raw materials are already being exploited and exported to China, but experts suspect still a huge untapped potential. Even in production there, given the massive opportunities available cheap labor, when foreign investors would find.

There are political forces in Pyongyang, which want to open the country for Japanese, South Korean and Western companies. The head of the North Korean joint venture and Investment Commission is seeking to attract expertise and it has also established contacts in Germany. "The military in North Korea will not want to leave the check," said the German economist, "therefore, is not at all settled that come through the reform."

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s'mores indoors
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i dont blame them, the material conditions being that they are an isolated underdeveloped nation under constant imperialist threat means a gradual transformation to market economy

ass history has shown
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yes. instead of being mad at them for becoming capitalist, perhaps we should first remove the beam from our own eyes *bubblepipe*
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north korea isn't socialist
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i hope north korea opens relations with the west someday so my daughter can meet her insane zombie great-aunts
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tpaine posted:

maybe they shouldnt have cooked it IN A FUCKING MICROWAVE. G D IT.

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hey this news about north korea is a bummer for some reason but i dont know what it is lol
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"...The second we arrived in Pyongyang, our passports were confiscated. Then each of us was assigned a "cultural attache" to follow us everywhere; these guys even sat in the dressing room while we went over our matches. In the dining room where the wrestlers ate, there was a camera in each corner, monitoring every movement. When Scott Norton called his wife and said, "This place sucks," his phone line suddenly went dead.

Muhammad Ali and I were taken everywhere in separate vehicles, while the rest of the guys were on a bus surrounded by government cars. They split us up at the hotel -- the way they did suspected traitors they wanted to segregate and brainwash. I didn't see anybody until our handlers decided the time was right.

The event itself was unlike anything I ever witnessed. A total of 380,000 spectators attended over two nights....During the show...(t)he fans held up different colored placards to create incredible mosaic images. It was beautiful, but also creepy. The first couple of sections were occupied exclusively by guys in military uniforms. The spectators cheered on cue. I almost got the feeling that they had been ordered to attend.

..At one point, my minder asked me how much my watch cost. When I told him, he marveled, "Can anybody really have that kind of money? That's more than I make in five years." I asked him his salary. It was the equivalent of about seven American dollars a week. Had I realized that, I never would have worn that watch in front of him.

Because of the ravages of Parkinson's disease, it was difficult to understand Muhammad Ali when he spoke. But at one function, we were sitting at a big, round table with a group of North Korean luminaries when one of the guys started rambling on about the moral superiority of North Korea, and how they could take out the United States or Japan any time they wanted. Suddenly, Ali piped up, clear as a bell, "No wonder we hate these motherf*ckers."

My hair practically stood up on my head. "Oh, sh*t," I whispered, "don't start talking now."

Before we left North Korea, our handlers requested that I make a speech at the airport. They even had specific points that they expected me to articulate -- things like North Korea being a worker's paradise, and that America sucked. I looked at Bischoff and told him, "I can't say this." The last thing I wanted was to be quoted in the American press making statements that I didn't mean. So I just spouted some generic comments and thanked everyone for their hospitality.

This is how I was quoted by the official North Korean press agency: "Before I leave this beautiful and peaceful country, I would like to make a tribute to the great leader, Mr. Kim Il Sung (the late father of the current dictator), who devoted his life to the Korean people's happiness, prosperity, and Korean unification. His Excellency, Kim Il Sung, will always be with us."

--- Ric Flair, 16 time world heavyweight champion.
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my wife said shes got relatives alive in north korea and i said that she was being a little generous with that term and she rolled her eyes at me
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"No wonder we hate these motherf*ckers."

funny, but a step down from "no viet cong ever called me nigger" imo
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Mmm cant wait to rape & pillage this country lol
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it will be cool when north kkkorea becomes a shining wonderland of capitalism and marxists qq moar
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Crow posted:

Mmm cant wait to rape & pillage this country lol


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getfiscal posted:

yes. instead of being mad at them for becoming capitalist, perhaps we should first remove the beam from our own eyes *bubblepipe*



The splinter in your eye is the best magnifying glass.

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ohhhhhhhhhh this is a sad dayyyyyyy *strum* a sad day indeeeeeed

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My mom tried to pay me $20 to wear a dress she bought me and to not meow or talk about witchcraft at dinner with my grandparents tonight. She spends her whole life trying to suppress my catkin identity instead of just allowing me to be myself.

I respectfully declined her offer. If I want to wear clothes that I find in dumpsters, I will. If I feel like meowing, I’m going to meow. If I need to cast a spell or a ward, nothing is going to stop me. I’m so sick of everyone trying to control me.

Mom, I’m a cat, I’m a Wiccan, and I am not going to lie to my grandparents just to make you feel better. So just stop.
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Goethestein posted:

my wife said shes got relatives alive in north korea and i said that she was being a little generous with that term and she rolled her eyes at me



cant wait for the steampunk divorce

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lol
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deadken posted:

My mom tried to pay me $20 to wear a dress she bought me and to not meow or talk about witchcraft at dinner with my grandparents tonight. She spends her whole life trying to suppress my catkin identity instead of just allowing me to be myself.

I respectfully declined her offer. If I want to wear clothes that I find in dumpsters, I will. If I feel like meowing, I’m going to meow. If I need to cast a spell or a ward, nothing is going to stop me. I’m so sick of everyone trying to control me.

Mom, I’m a cat, I’m a Wiccan, and I am not going to lie to my grandparents just to make you feel better. So just stop.



gonna post dis to my facebook

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They've been talking about NK opening its economy since the Soviet Union collapsed. I'll believe it when I see it. They've been saying the same thing about Cuba and Raul Castro, even though I've seen no real evidence and Cuba is doing far better than the 90s thanks to Venezuela and the OAS.

Just another tactic to slander any country that doesn't give in to neo-liberal bullying.
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babyhueypnewton posted:

They've been talking about NK opening its economy since the Soviet Union collapsed. I'll believe it when I see it. They've been saying the same thing about Cuba and Raul Castro, even though I've seen no real evidence and Cuba is doing far better than the 90s thanks to Venezuela and the OAS.





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Tourism, overwhelmingly from Europeans and Canadians, is Cuba's largest industry.

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IT DOESN'T COUNT COMRADE *has conniption fit*
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we would probably see something similar from north Korea were there any reason for people to go on holidays in north Korea
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littlegreenpills posted:

we would probably see something similar from north Korea were there any reason for people to go on holidays in north Korea



Are you kidding? The attraction would be exactly the same as Cuba! Providing cheap compliant sex workers who would do anything for a dollar in a novel new destination where a rigorous police state ensure that tourists are a protected class and would not face the same risks from crime or violence that they might in say, Cambodia or the Dominican Republic.

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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

littlegreenpills posted:

we would probably see something similar from north Korea were there any reason for people to go on holidays in north Korea

Are you kidding? The attraction would be exactly the same as Cuba! Providing cheap compliant sex workers who would do anything for a dollar in a novel new destination where a rigorous police state ensure that tourists are a protected class and would not face the same risks from crime or violence that they might in say, Cambodia or the Dominican Republic.



cool slander bro

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How is that slander? I'm not passing a moral judgement here nor deriding Cuba for it's successes. Fact of the matter is it earns a lot of currency from foreign tourism and sex tourism makes up a part of that.

North Korea is a fairly poor country with some much wealthier ones very close to it. If opened up to the chaos of the international market then that will bring tourists and those tourists bring dollars and poor people will do things they don't want to do to get the dollars to eat. That's capitalism remember? that thing we're always talking about here.

And if it does happen i'm not going to take any joy in watching CNN reports about Pyongyang's first starbucks while planeloads of Shandong and Sapporo's fat horny textile salesmen stream out of planes at the airport.
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Is that "the fact of the matter"? Because I know for a fact prostitution is illegal in Cuba, and any info I can find on it's prevalence is from the 90s. I would be very interested to hear you back up your assertions, would be a shame to have to ban you for making unfounded slanders against the Cuban people.
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

littlegreenpills posted:

we would probably see something similar from north Korea were there any reason for people to go on holidays in north Korea

Are you kidding? The attraction would be exactly the same as Cuba! Providing cheap compliant sex workers who would do anything for a dollar in a novel new destination where a rigorous police state ensure that tourists are a protected class and would not face the same risks from crime or violence that they might in say, Cambodia or the Dominican Republic.



dont stick ur dick in crazy lol

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being a nation of sex slaves would objectively be a step up for north korea
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read dis bhpn it's interesting if you filter out the cloying liberalism. jineterismo is a Thing. the cuban government are probably making the best of a bad situation with things like an effective and organized response to HIV and the lack of anything like the organized brothels of Thailand or Amsterdam. you'd rather be a jinetera than a bangkok betty but if you wanted to get rid of it you'd have to ban tourism

http://www.caribbeanstudies.org.uk/papers/2001/olv2p3.pdf
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yeah i know that there is illegal prostitution in cuba, every country in the world has prostitution including north korea. and yes, the temporary defeat of the left from the collapse of the soviet union led to some bad things, especially in cuba where the economy was hit very hard.

however iwc implied that the cuban government was promoting prostitution which is pure slander, and that prostitution is still a problem which is not clear at all. illegal prostitution is probably a far worse problem in the united states than in cuba (and surely a much worse problem in south korea than in the north) and drawing attention to it as a "human rights issue" is typical of the blinders of the UN. i would advise you to start a thread if you're interested in a real discussion, iwc has already poisoned the waters with his reactionary trolling.
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prostitution isnt a problem
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Goethestein posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

littlegreenpills posted:

we would probably see something similar from north Korea were there any reason for people to go on holidays in north Korea

Are you kidding? The attraction would be exactly the same as Cuba! Providing cheap compliant sex workers who would do anything for a dollar in a novel new destination where a rigorous police state ensure that tourists are a protected class and would not face the same risks from crime or violence that they might in say, Cambodia or the Dominican Republic.

dont stick ur dick in crazy lol



then howd u ever get laid goatstein

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babyhueypnewton posted:

Is that "the fact of the matter"? Because I know for a fact prostitution is illegal in Cuba, and any info I can find on it's prevalence is from the 90s. I would be very interested to hear you back up your assertions, would be a shame to have to ban you for making unfounded slanders against the Cuban people.



prostitution is illegal in America too but it doesn't mean it doesn't happen does it

http://www.tripadvisor.com/ShowUserReviews-g147271-d151560-r40479022-Hotel_Tropicoco-Havana_Cuba.html

here you go, this is just one hotel, there are pages and pages of people discussing what the 'prostitution situation' is like at each

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Issue an immediate take off order for all ZIG units!!