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YANGON - Visitors to Myanmar these days often encounter young men in T-shirts emblazoned with a red swastika in a circle and the word "Nazi" written above. World War II-style motorcycle helmets decorated with the fascist emblem are also en vogue on the streets of Yangon.

Myanmar's most popular rock band, which has thousands of fans on Facebook and has toured the United States, is named "The Iron Cross," in reference to a German military medal that was bestowed by Adolf Hitler. The band's logo is a Nazi eagle holding an iron cross instead of a swastika in its claws.

The popularity of Nazi symbolism among Myanmar youth has raised questions among activists, academics and travelers and is seemingly at odds with Myanmar's hopeful transition from military to democratic rule. "I suspect (and hope) they are popular out of ignorance rather than ideology," writes traveler Micah Rubin on her blog, where she posted a photo of a teenager wearing a shirt with a big swastika on the front.

"I imagine that people wearing these T-shirts might see them as just cool things to wear," says Sydney University anthropologist Jane Ferguson, who has done extensive research in Myanmar. "Something that's foreign and exotic might just look cool without going into the deep history. They might recognize the swastika as part of Nazi regalia, but associate it with the Sanskrit symbol of auspiciousness."

Ferguson compares the popularity of Nazi shirts in Myanmar to Westerners placing Buddha statues inside bars and night clubs, without realizing that this is offensive to Buddhists, or tattooing Chinese characters on themselves without understanding what they mean.

She says that people in Myanmar wear other shirts with ridiculous messages because they don't know what the English language slogans mean. "When something isn't intended as an offense, it shouldn't be taken as such," she says.

Nonetheless, the pro-Nazi T-shirts and other wears are beginning to cause an international stir. Rabbi Abraham Cooper, a member of the California-based Simon Wiesenthal Center that fights anti-Semitism around the world, says his group is concerned about the seeming proliferation of Nazi symbolism in Myanmar.

"Our first assumption is that it's based on a lack of knowledge, not on any insidious hatred," he said. "But we don't want to see the symbols of the genocide that was perpetuated against the Jewish people become fads anywhere in the world."

Cooper says the Wiesenthal Center is worried that Nazi symbols are becoming increasingly popular throughout Asia, including in countries where Jewish people have never historically faced persecution.

In India, Hitler's autobiographical book Mein Kampf, which among other things proclaims the supremacy of the German race, is regularly sold at bookshops next to the biography of Apple founder Steve Jobs and the country's graduate students are snapping it off the shelves, Cooper says.

In Thailand, which was an ally of Germany and Japan during World War II, school children in the northern city of Chiang Mai dressed up as Hitler and in Nazi SS guard uniforms for a school parade in 2011. A local band named "Slur" produced a song and video called "Hitler," in which dancers put on Hitler mustaches and incorporated the Nazi salute into their dance routine.

In Korea, Nazi symbols have even been used to promote cosmetics, Cooper said. "I wish I could tell you it's the first time we've seen this phenomenon pop up in Asia, but it seems to come up too often," Cooper says. "It's difficult to put a finger on why it's happening."

Cooper is particularly alarmed because Asia is a part of the world where most people never meet a Jewish person in their lives. This, he says, could make Asians more vulnerable to accepting anti-Semitic conspiracy theories. His group also doesn't want to see Asia, a garment manufacturing giant, export such clothing items that have appeared on the streets of Yangon abroad.

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While many Myanmar youth might not be familiar with the history of Nazism during WWII, many do have a perspective on the Nazis. In certain circles Hitler is seen by some Asians as a strong leader who fought against colonial powers, including England and France, that ruled and oppressed their nations before achieving independence.

American historian Rosalie Metro, who wrote her doctorate thesis on how history is taught in Myanmar, says that popular opinion of Hitler in Myanmar is generally positive. "I asked a few taxi drivers about history, and they said, 'Yes, Hitler is a good, strong leader,'" Metro said. "People say that sometimes."

Myanmar's government-issued history textbooks contribute to this strong leader perception because they do not describe Nazi atrocities, according to Metro.

"They talk about the Treaty of Versailles after World War I, and that the situation was very bad in Germany, that Hitler was a strong leader, and that many Germans felt that the Jews, who controlled the economy, were responsible for their troubles," Metro, who can read Burmese, said in summarizing Myanmar history textbooks. "That's strange because it doesn't say, 'And they were wrong.' And it doesn't mention the Holocaust."

That portrayal is in stark contrast to how schoolbooks refer to the British and the Japanese, who are described broadly as enemies of the Myanmar people who "sucked the lifeblood out of Burma," she said, referring to the country's former name.

To combat the growing popularity of Nazi symbols in some Asian countries, the Wiesenthal Center has organized Holocaust exhibitions throughout the region. The exhibits, which include photographs illustrating the murders of approximately six million Jewish people, are meant as a historical introduction for those who have no knowledge of what happened in Europe during the 1940s.

The center's first exhibit in Mumbai opened in the fall, while a Holocaust display in Bangkok - which was put together as a response to the Chiang Mai's school children's Nazi parade - will open on February 4.

No Holocaust exhibition has ever been organized in Myanmar but Cooper said he would be interested in bring one to the country. The rabbi also plans to look into the origin of the Nazi shirts appearing on the streets of Yangon.

"If it's a company that makes its living by exporting (these shirts) overseas, this kind of behavior will cost them a lot business wise," he said. "We'll see if we can put an end to it."

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I would much rather people read Mein Kampf than Steve Job's biography.
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babyhueypnewton posted:

I would much rather people read Mein Kampf than Steve Job's biography.



the last chapter is hilarious and heartwarming though

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babyhueypnewton posted:

I would much rather people read Mein Kampf than Steve Job's biography.



aren't they the same thing?

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Wow that article is just so full of moralizing western busybodies
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There’s something really, really objectionable about the Wisenthal Centre going from Israel to SE-Asia to lecture them on suffering.
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lmao i love the idea of a bunch of californian jews going to south east asia to show the pictures of holocaust victims and demand that the residents of nowheresville, burma recognise the suffering of the jews of europe
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hey! you! indentured labourer! yes, you, toiling in the rice fields! i have flown here from my mansion in los angeles to teach you about the suffering of people on another continent seventy years ago!
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swastikas are cool, nazi symbolism is cool. it's cool when these burmese guys do it, it was cool when ofwgkta did it, it was cool when siouxsie sioux did it, it was cool when hitler did it. it's cool
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Ms Kyoo-Minh says that on a trip to England she noticed the Union Jack being flown in large numbers and sometimes even being worn as clothing.

“I hope they are doing it out of ignorance and not ideology” he said.
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no pics?????????
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i think basically all western jews have some degree of nazi fetish, the simon wisenthal centre is what happens when people try to repress it
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actually i think thats a howard jacobson book lol
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true story: my parents are like friends of friends with howard jacobson, i ran into him at a dinner party type thing once and told him i thought his novels exemplified the myopia of western liberal jewry. i was like fifteen lol
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i wanna rub against my betters
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just a little something i whipped up for laughs if you are offended i am sorry
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

There’s something really, really objectionable about the Wisenthal Centre going from Israel to SE-Asia to lecture them on suffering.



on the other hand threatening to go after the businesses that make the shirts and hurt their cash flow is the most appropriately jewy thing they can do

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the western jews' attempt to monopolize suffering is simultaneously hilarious + disgusting
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deadken posted:

true story: my parents are like friends of friends with howard jacobson, i ran into him at a dinner party type thing once and told him i thought his novels exemplified the myopia of western liberal jewry. i was like fifteen lol



then everyone stood up and clapped

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My parents have boring petit-bourgeois friends and the most famous person I met was getting martina hingis’s autograph, I wish I was a cosmopolitan north London Jew 
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Dead Ken Celebrity Stories: i called leonardo dicaprio a cunt. a friend of mine kissed gail porter (after she was bald). an ex im still friends with is now seeing a director who used to go out with scarlett johanssen. you should try it its fun. like half your compatriots are here already
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deadken posted:

Dead Ken Celebrity Stories: i called leonardo dicaprio a cunt. a friend of mine kissed gail porter (after she was bald). an ex im still friends with is now seeing a director who used to go out with scarlett johanssen. you should try it its fun. like half your compatriots are here already



Unfortunately it’s not that simple without Jewish privilege………

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whos a famous australian. dont they all just move to london like nick cave and germaine greer and tim minchin and so on anyway
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yeah well fred durst and limp bizkit are from jacksonville

TOP THAT
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deadken posted:

whos a famous australian. dont they all just move to london like nick cave and germaine greer and tim minchin and so on anyway


That bald guy from midnight oil?

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deadken posted:

whos a famous australian. dont they all just move to london like nick cave and germaine greer and tim minchin and so on anyway



Yeah or they move to Hollywood like Hugh Jackman or Nicole Kidman. So yeah if you want to be a famous Australian you leave Australia, being domestically famous is just the most provincial fucking shit ever.

Or we get second-rate Brits that come here so they can be famous because they’re not in their home country, especially ‘comedians’ like Ross Noble or whoever.

It’s pretty gay but the weather is good and people don’t look half as fucking miserable as London.

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MadMedico posted:

deadken posted:
whos a famous australian. dont they all just move to london like nick cave and germaine greer and tim minchin and so on anyway

That bald guy from midnight oil?



You mean the federal Minister of Education?



talk about selling out lol

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lmao is he the florida governor's long lost twin
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deadken posted:

lmao is he the florida governor's long lost twin




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lmao someone said crikey. I wanna go to Australia so bad
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hey posted:

lmao someone said crikey. I wanna go to Australia so bad





Mr Weber said initially the snake was tucked away ''quite neatly'' but then the wind caught the last 30 centimetres of its tail, ''pulling him straight out''.

He said that from that moment, everyone watched on as the trip became an ultimately futile ''life and death struggle for the snake''.
''I felt quite sad for it, really. For the remainder of the flight, he was trying to pull himself back into the plane, even though he was fighting against 400km/h winds. The cabin crew told us that at cruising altitude, it was minus 12 degrees outside - but not even that was able to finish him.''

Mr Weber, who videoed the ultimately futile struggle, said both pilots took it in turns to visit the rear of the plane and watch as, several times, the snake hauled itself to safety, only to be dragged out again. As it slowly lost its grip, the wind repeatedly whipped it against the side of the plane, spraying blood across the engine.

''At that point, the pilot turned to us and said: 'He should be dead'. Yet even on descent, the snake was fighting to find safety. ''Until we landed, I looked out the window and the thing was still moving.'' The snake later died and was removed from the plane by ground staff.

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/travel/travel-incidents/high-drama-qantas-pythons-flying-circus-20130110-2ciu0.html#ixzz2HcoecX9I

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National socialism strikes again.
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Get_A_Job posted:

National socialism strikes again.



what?

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elemennop posted:

the western jews' attempt to monopolize suffering is simultaneously hilarious + disgusting