my argument is that if the qur'aan could, in and of itself, unite people without further need for interpretation, the umayyad caliphate could not, by definition, have collapsed. your argument is circular—if any text could provide for all contingencies, it would be truly divine, but divinity is metaphorical. by definition, if the book were perfect, one could not veer from it. religion requires constant reinvention, and it is difficult to live in a time of reinvention, because we are the generations that must do the work of making and upholding truth for the rest. this will always happen.

One of the most immediate theorems emerging from the axiom of cyclicality is the reversal of temporary departures from equilibrium. The time between the destruction of the Umayyad Caliphate- which was never legitimate, the dynasty founded by a bastard son of a cannibal- and the rapid advance of the jihad throughout the world today is an almost negligible period of time on a cosmological scale. The reemergence of the Kalam Cosmological Argument, even in the form of vulgar western B-Theory, and the occurrence of bovine cloning and gender reassignment specified in Sura 4:119 (specifically cloning via the ear which was realized to be the correct procedure) prove that the end of liberalism is proximal from both within and without.

so, i am ethnically jewish and uncertain of how to continue to engage with your comments re: hitler. i don't think a genocidal movement has to be successful to be described as genocidal. i am not here to argue that the nazis' genocidal activities were the primary motivator of the development of the fascist state, nor to defend zionism or jewish racist mysticism and millenarian tendencies or ask for holocaust victim worship. and yes, of course, hitler's political contributions, fascinating, but is this really the face of revolutionary islam to you?

Fascism and Islam primarily agree on existential questions, specifically the existence of Jews. As Spengler said, race is a feeling. The exact nature of Jewry varies but the greatest minds of history agree that it is one of the greatest forces of progress in history, and as long as this feeling persists with potential to act upon it, it must be contained. Islam and Fascism fundamentally complete each other as the former provides the means to do so.

i don't understand your desire to so aggressively equate ethnic jews with zionists—if you want me to condemn zionism as a reactionary neo-tribalist movement, fine, but, so, uh, how do you feel about the golden dawn's political gains in greek parliament?

Greece is on the right path. The migration of Muslim people to Europe has resulted in transmission of cultural values and mores, bringing liberal values to the source countries. These migration flows must not be allowed to continue, or at least be reversed so that First World citizens are exported to countries where they may adopt Third World values.

Edited by mustang19 (May 6, 2013 18:04:30)

elemennop posted:

roseweird, i'm gonna help you out here, don't bother getting in arguments with the following people:

ironicwarcriminal

no do this. it's fun.

roseweird posted:

mustang19 posted:

Thank you for engaging in honest discussion, the same courtesy has not been afforded to me by most on this forum. I hope with time you will become a fascist.

i would be interested in having a further discussion re: revolutionary islam and its potential as a counterweight to global capital, but i think your extensive engagement with nazism has seriously warped your mind and i'm not sure how to keep talking to you mostly because i wonder if irl you might try to murder me or something

looks like mustang19 has been ifapped, so i'm not sure if you'll get further discussion.

ilmdge posted:

ArisVelouchiotis posted:

she dances like a young morrissey

lol from 5:45 on

babyhueypnewton posted:

holy shit i had this page open and when i upvoted it went from 0 to 5. must be the record

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