#161
ORDER YOURS TODAY:

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#162

guidoanselmi posted:
ORDER YOURS TODAY:

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The trolling possibilities are limitless...

#163
maybe if it was made in china it would actually resemble the aircraft it's supposed to be a model of
#164

guidoanselmi posted:
ORDER YOURS TODAY:

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can u call for me and get a price quote (if u speak ur peoples language that is)

#165
i do but i rather not personally call. i'll email MY DAD and see if he can order a few for me.

sadly importing commercially from iran is now illegal, so my plans for selling them ironically to the hipster market have been grounded
#166

guidoanselmi posted:
i do but i rather not personally call. i'll email MY DAD and see if he can order a few for me.

sadly importing commercially from iran is now illegal, so my plans for selling them ironically to the hipster market have been grounded



to the horses

#167
i won't quote, but here's another great pepe escobar link on iran: http://www.tomdispatch.com/post/175490/tomgram:_pepe_escobar,_sinking_the_petrodollar_in_the_persian_gulf/#more
#168
oh my

Washington, D.C. -- On December 31, just hours before a New Year's Eve celebration, President Obama signed the National Defense Authorization Act (NDAA) for Fiscal Year 2012. Section 1245 of the law contains language providing authority to impose economic sanctions on Iran in order to deter the ayatollahs from acquiring nuclear weapons. White House efforts to have the sanctions provision stripped from the bill failed and the measure became law with a quiet flourish of the presidential pen. Ever since, Washington and Tehran have been waging a war of words. None of this works to the advantage of the American people. Here's why.

Tehran replied to the "new sanctions" -- which have yet to be imposed -- with a series of military exercises and threats to close the narrow Strait of Hormuz, through which passes nearly 20 percent of the world's supply of petroleum. In a now familiar rhetorical tit for tat, the Obama White House propaganda mill responded by leaking that POTUS had sent a "clear and unequivocal message" through a "secret channel" that cutting the flow of oil was "unacceptable." Defense Secretary Leon Panetta and others took to the airwaves and print outlets to talk about Iranian nukes and closing the strait as a "red line" for the U.S.

This week, we learned from Tehran that Obama's "secret message" was addressed to Iran's supreme leader, Ayatollah Ali Khamenei. According to Ali Motahari, a mouthpiece for the theocrats, "the first part of the letter contains threats and the second part contains an offer for dialogue." Iran's government-run Fars News Agency quoted Motahari saying, "In the letter, Obama called for direct talks with Iran."

The White House has neither confirmed nor denied the contents or even the delivery of such a missive. On Thursday, Obama administration spokesman Tommy Vietor told reporters "The U.S. remains committed to engaging with Tehran and finding a diplomatic solution." If any of this is true, nothing has changed in nearly three years of the Obama administration -- except that Iran is now much closer to acquiring nuclear weapons.

According to U.S., European and Israeli intelligence sources, Iran will begin producing enriched uranium at the deep-underground, heavily protected Fordo nuclear facility, near the city of Qum, "in a matter of weeks." Last November, inspectors from the International Atomic Energy Agency (IAEA) reported indications of "advanced enrichment for potential nuclear weapons use" at Iran's Nantaz and Bushehr nuclear sites.

The Obama administration's naïve infatuation with "direct talks" and a belief in equivocal sanctions are at odds with reality. Four years of United Nations sanctions have produced no results. The "open hand" and "mutual respect" Obama offered Tehran in 2009 have yielded nothing. Last year, the so-called negotiations -- with the U.S., Britain, Germany, France, Russia and China on one side of the table and the Iranians on the other -- collapsed in Istanbul when Tehran refused to continue talking as long as any sanctions remained in place.

Though new sanctions -- like those mandated by the NDAA -- appear to be onerous, the deterrent effects on Iranian nuclear ambitions are doubtful at best. According to the new law, on February 29, the Obama administration is supposed to bar international banks that do "any significant financial transaction with the Central Bank of Iran" from access to U.S. banking institutions. But enforcement is up to the O-Team -- an outfit not exactly known for adhering to the letter of the law.

And now, some of our "allies" are getting cold feet on cutting their access to Iranian oil; the second phase of NDAA sanctions are due to kick in on June 28. No one really expects Russia, China, Venezuela, North Korea or Cuba to play ball. But this week, France, India, Turkey and South Korea all protested that the new sanctions could adversely affect their economic recovery from a lengthy recession and that they need "more time" to find alternative sources to replace the Iranian oil they have already contracted to buy.

Time is what the Iranians want most of all. Like the North Koreans, who built nuclear weapons while starving their own people, the ayatollahs have figured out how to build such devices. Their determination to do so was unabated by the Stuxnet computer worm. They have not been stopped by the violent, untimely demise of five nuclear experts. All Tehran's masters of deceit and delay need is time. They knew before we did that the threat of supposedly harsh sanctions was undercut by an election-year diplomatic gambit for direct negotiations in Obama's "secret letter."

The effect of White House ambivalence and incompetence is that Iran -- the world's foremost purveyor of terror -- will acquire nuclear weapons in the days ahead. When that happens, reopening the Strait of Hormuz to ensure the world's supply of energy will become a perilous affair.

On January 18, the Obama White House doubled down on this lunacy and pulled the plug on the Keystone pipeline connecting oil fields in western Canada to refineries in Texas. In a blatant pander for votes from environmental radicals, Obama sold out hopes for improving U.S. energy security, guaranteed higher fuel costs for all of us and eliminated tens of thousands of jobs. All this should be a red line for American voters.



the author:

Spoiler!


#169
still stand by my claim in the OP title

The Indian government’s inclination not to allow itself to be browbeaten by Washington on the Iran sanctions issue, if true, is based on sound reasoning. At the end of the day, all this sanctions route is political chicanery and there is a lot of bluster is gong on, the latest being that if you cut oil links with Iran, the good old Saudis will promptly make up for it. Whereas, it is crystal clear that the Saudis aren’t in any position to do that. Imagination is running riot. Simply put, the west cannot do without Iranian oil and the world market cannot do without Iranian oil. So, Obama will end up giving exemption after exemption, selectively of course, to those who carry on oil trade with Iran. Such as BP. Yes, London has asked Obama to exempt BP from his sanctions regime so that the future of its $20b natural gas pipeline project in the Caspian Sea in Azerbaijan’s Shah Deniz II field doesn’t get imperilled The point is, Iran holds 10% equity in Shah Deniz II and if Tehran doesn’t say ‘Da‘, it becomes a ‘Nyet‘ for the entire trans-Caspian project. The funny thing is, London is pleading that the project is imperative for Europe’s energy security, as it will be the first Caspian energy project to bypass Russian territory and it is useful for the ‘containment strategy’ toward Russia.

So, what do we get here? Britain, which does not have diplomatic relations with Iran and is the US’s staunchest ally in “isolating” Iran, is pleading with Washington to exempt the BP from sanctions so that it can go ahead with Tehran’s acquiescence with a major energy project that helps Europe to reduce its dependence on Russia, which is of course Iran’s strategic ally in withstanding Obama’s containment policy. The geopolitical spin is that all this ‘tough love’ holds the potential to create misunderstandings between Iran and Russia as well at a delicate juncture when their strategic understanding is gaining traction and the negotiations over the nuclear issue are about to resume. At the end of the day, the name of this desperate game for Britain and the US is to gain access to Iran’s fabulous energy resources, which are one of the last great untapped frontiers in the world of energy. The US and Britain shall be loathe to see upstarts like China or India stealing a march over them. The more the Iranian regime tried to exercise its ‘Asia option’, the more London and Washington began tightening the screws. An Asian energy grid has all along been a nightmarish thought for Britain and the US. It is this cynical self-centredness that is at the root of the US pressure tactic toward India, forcing Delhi to shut down the ACU mechanism for conducting oil trade with Iran and to browbeat the Indian leadership from proceeding with the Iran-Pakistan-India gas pipeline project, by exploiting the prospect of the US-India nuclear deal. The US strategy is to ensure that Iran remains as a low-hanging fruit for Uncle Sam to come and pluck and savor it once the US-Iran standoff gets resolved, finally.

Thus, it comes as refreshing news that India may allow the Central Bank of Iran to open a rupee account in two Indian banks. More important, Delhi says it won’t ask Washington for exemption from its sanctions regime against the Iranian central bank but would exercise its national sovereignty to pick and choose its trading partners. If Delhi sticks to this upright position, though you can never tell with the present government, it will be in good company. In fact, with Beijing also brusquely rebuffing the US, and Japan playing hide and seek, linking its own attitude to China and India’s, Delhi has nothing to fear except fear itself. Now, with Britain busting the US’s sanctions regime, Delhi would have no reason to fear Obama’s wrath. Read the WSJ report on the UK-US doublespeak on Iran.



http://blogs.rediff.com/mkbhadrakumar/2012/01/23/uk-scuttles-obamas-iran-sanctions/

#170
could this be looked back on as one of the defining moments when US hegemony began to crumble
#171
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#174
just got drafted into the army to fight the war against iran. guess i'll catch you guys in goons in platoons. may still have a little time to yospos it up
#175

Skylark posted:
just got drafted into the army to fight the war against iran. guess i'll catch you guys in goons in platoons. may still have a little time to yospos it up



godspeed

#176
As a progressive Democrat, I am convinced that on issues as important as the US-Israel alliance and the threat posed by Iran’s nuclear program, there is no room for uncivil discourse or name calling, like ‘Israel Firster or ‘Likudnik’, and policy or political rhetoric that is hostile to Israel, or suggests that Iran has no nuclear weapons program, has no place in the mainstream Democratic party discourse. I also believe that when it occurs, progressive institutions, have a responsibility not to tolerate such speech or arguments.
#177
iran just threatened to close the straits of hormuz over eu sanctions. theyre not going to do it, we're never going to invade
#178

deadken posted:
iran just threatened to close the straits of hormuz over eu sanctions. theyre not going to do it, we're never going to invade



woo election year

#179
my guess is that when iran inevitably develops nuclear weapons theyre going to use them in the same way as the dprk, using them as security every time they seize an oil tanker or whatever to get the west to lift sanctions or buy more oil
#180

deadken posted:
my guess is that when iran inevitably develops nuclear weapons theyre going to use them in the same way as the dprk, using them as security every time they seize an oil tanker or whatever to get the west to lift sanctions or buy more oil



incisive!

#181
sorry im not posting this over at a blog with an arabic name so you can make it into a thread
#182
im imagining obama w/ a perplexed expression hovering over a button like todd margaret at the end of season 2
#183

aerdil posted:
im imagining obama w/ a perplexed expression hovering over a button like todd margaret at the end of season 2



theres a season 2?!

#184
uuhh yeah!!! midway through bro. getonit.
#185
is 2nd season any good. first was...... ok...... but it had potential
#186
yeah it was mediocre and it still has some lows but i feel like its actually starting to come together & ramp up & be more consistently funny
#187
remember during the libya thing when there was all that talk of gaddafi disrupting shipping in the med and bombing sicily and shit. why the fuck dont third world despots ever listen to gary brechter
#188
lol did ppl really upvote that tepid ass burn
#189
the kid from the inbetweeners was good in it i thought
#190
So im just going to start at season 2 then
#191

babyfinland posted:
lol did ppl really upvote that tepid ass burn



it's funny because, it's, true

#192

deadken posted:
remember during the libya thing when there was all that talk of gaddafi disrupting shipping in the med and bombing sicily and shit. why the fuck dont third world despots ever listen to gary brechter



i don't remember that at all and i read all the arabic name blogs

#193

deadken posted:

babyfinland posted:
lol did ppl really upvote that tepid ass burn

it's funny because, it's, true



theres literally one single blog i read and post from that has an arabic name

#194

babyfinland posted:
lol did ppl really upvote that tepid ass burn

Keeop posting im reloding.

#195

deadken posted:
remember during the libya thing when there was all that talk of gaddafi disrupting shipping in the med and bombing sicily and shit. why the fuck dont third world despots ever listen to gary brechter



speaking of libya, gaddafi loyalists just recaptured their stronghold town with a well-executed military ambush. shit is still interesting over there.

#196
yeah also there were a bunch of demos in benghazi against the ntc by supporters of the revolutions...... shit ago fi get Real
#197
ya libya is cool rite now except for all the chaos and destruction but ya go libyans
#198
its lookin kinda 1917-y in a bunch of places. i really hope the egyptians just keep on strikin'
#199
how weird would it be if gaddafi true believers retook libya and began implementing green book policies to the very letter... hmmm
#200

aerdil posted:
how weird would it be if gaddafi true believers retook libya and began implemented green book policies to the very letter... hmmm



that is never going to happen

best case scenario is a anti-zionist saudi-backed sunni bloc across north africa and the med coast, with a tense peace between them and iran hinging on turkish and russian exploitation