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men categorically oppress women. humans categorically form class structures. i don't like it but the world ain't perfect, whaddya gonna do *shoulders satchel and strolls off to work at the Porn factory*
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roseweird posted:

or could you explain why you believe that men oppress women categorically by nature of their existence as men and not situationally by nature of their sexual desire and ability/intent to order society around those desires



I was going to say that the category of 'male' is a social creation that only has meaning as an oppressive structure, but you already beat me to it by stating "biology" is responsible for everything bad. do you also believe homosexuality is biological and not a western ideology based on a certain biopolitical regime of 'identity'?

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babyhueypnewton posted:

roseweird posted:

or could you explain why you believe that men oppress women categorically by nature of their existence as men and not situationally by nature of their sexual desire and ability/intent to order society around those desires

I was going to say that the category of 'male' is a social creation that only has meaning as an oppressive structure, but you already beat me to it by stating "biology" is responsible for everything bad. do you also believe homosexuality is biological and not a western ideology based on a certain biopolitical regime of 'identity'?


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roseweird posted:

also why are you now so eager to have this conversation that you were so eager to brush out of the way in order to say smart stuff about dprk and russia yesterday



so you could shut up and leave Korea alone. Shame on you.

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so are you saying that if a man doesn't desire a woman, he can't oppress her?
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bhpn: homosexuality is a bourgeois liberal western ideology. under Full Communism gross things like dudes bumming will have been extinguished and i will finally be able to lay exotic babes without worrying for my health
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roseweird posted:

i believe homosexuality is a word to describe a behavior that humans engage in, and i'm eager to hear your opininos on those behaviors huey



you're incorrect, for someone who appears to have read foucault, butler, lacan and immersed themselves in queer theory (even with its problems) you seem to not understand interpellation, biopolitics, patriarchy etc and stumbled onto feminism and anti-patriarchy by accident through a weird biological fascism.

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Crow posted:

i know you guys are roiling deep in acoherent freudanism and its discontents, but it's dumb to pathologize oppressive structures. males categorically oppress women. this isn't an outcome of desire. it doesn't matter whether they are homosexual or not.


shouldn't that they be a we?

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You'll take my male privilege from my large, strong hands!
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I am not a male dude.
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Crow posted:

deadken posted:

Crow posted:

i know you guys are roiling deep in acoherent freudanism and its discontents, but it's dumb to pathologize oppressive structures. males categorically oppress women. this isn't an outcome of desire. it doesn't matter whether they are homosexual or not.

male feminism, ladies and gentlemen

yeah, you really should stop parading around as a 'feminist' to get laid, you bad bad boy



so should you lmao

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roseweird posted:

also why are you now so eager to have this conversation that you were so eager to brush out of the way in order to say smart stuff about dprk and russia yesterday



because its page 6 and no one cares about talking about the DPRK's commitment to socialism and juche ideology. thats ok though clearly the rhizzone needs to have this conversationwhich separates bourgeois feminists and liberals from proletarian feminists and radicals

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deadken posted:

Crow posted:

deadken posted:

Crow posted:

i know you guys are roiling deep in acoherent freudanism and its discontents, but it's dumb to pathologize oppressive structures. males categorically oppress women. this isn't an outcome of desire. it doesn't matter whether they are homosexual or not.

male feminism, ladies and gentlemen

yeah, you really should stop parading around as a 'feminist' to get laid, you bad bad boy

so should you lmao


i'm not a feminist dude

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babyhueypnewton posted:

roseweird posted:

i believe homosexuality is a word to describe a behavior that humans engage in, and i'm eager to hear your opininos on those behaviors huey

you're incorrect, for someone who appears to have read foucault, butler, lacan and immersed themselves in queer theory (even with its problems) you seem to not understand interpellation, biopolitics, patriarchy etc and stumbled onto feminism and anti-patriarchy by accident through a weird biological fascism.


are you going to talk about how ramses couldn't have died to tuberculosis because the bacterium hadn't been identified yet?

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crow doesn't need to say anything to get laid. he's the hottest and gayest person on this forum.

read->comprehend->post
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all men oppress women. except for me, because i am one of the Good Ones. i'm not a male i'[m a big swishy bird that eats worms and bugs etc so i can do whatever i want
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I like how the homosexual pictures c_man posted show 'masculine' men, with no concern for gender oppression or race. you betray your own chauvinism, if you had posted something that undermines masculinity and patriarchy I would at least give you credit for trying to rescue male homosexuality from the structures of male oppression inherent in male to male social relations (whether sexual or not)

e: please do not take this as an invitation to post more pics some people have lives and read this forum at work
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babyhueypnewton posted:

I like how the homosexual pictures c_man posted show 'masculine' men, with no concern for gender oppression or race. you betray your own chauvinism, if you had posted something that undermines masculinity and patriarchy I would at least give you credit for trying to rescue male homosexuality from the structures of male oppression inherent in male to male social relations (whether sexual or not)

e: please do not take this as an invitation to post more pics some people have lives and read this forum at work



aaaaaahahahaha what the fuck is this shit

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roseweird posted:

ive never read lacan or injected heroin

time to update your bucket list

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all men oppress women. except for me, i'm not a male, i'[m a sphinx,, therefore i am one of the Good Ones
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this work-friendly gay erotica consistently erases class
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roseweird posted:

Crow posted:

so are you saying that if a man doesn't desire a woman, he can't oppress her?

no, that's a bizarre thing to think i think, also it's funny that you assume gay men experience no desire wrt women



i didn't say you thought that, but you are completely muddying up the issue: oppression comes from concrete social relations rooted in a material basis, not abstract constellations of desires. these aren't purely biological drives, either

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reading lacan is worse than injecting heroin. also crow you're a male bird ergo opressing female crows by your very existence.
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bhpn please post some gay pics that undermine male chauvinism. lead by example
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i make all my social relations out of brick, not concrete.
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deadken posted:

babyhueypnewton posted:

I like how the homosexual pictures c_man posted show 'masculine' men, with no concern for gender oppression or race. you betray your own chauvinism, if you had posted something that undermines masculinity and patriarchy I would at least give you credit for trying to rescue male homosexuality from the structures of male oppression inherent in male to male social relations (whether sexual or not)

e: please do not take this as an invitation to post more pics some people have lives and read this forum at work

aaaaaahahahaha what the fuck is this shit



yeah a picture of two muscled dudes fucking each other is feminism! lets include a girl in the back crying cause we turned that straight guy gay lol! I love the phallus!

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does anyone know what chauvinism means cause i've never heard it definied or used coherently by anyone on print or out loud.
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babyhueypnewton posted:

I like how the homosexual pictures c_man posted show 'masculine' men, with no concern for gender oppression or race. you betray your own chauvinism, if you had posted something that undermines masculinity and patriarchy I would at least give you credit for trying to rescue male homosexuality from the structures of male oppression inherent in male to male social relations (whether sexual or not)

e: please do not take this as an invitation to post more pics some people have lives and read this forum at work


oh k i didnt know you were into twinks

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NoFreeWill posted:

reading lacan is worse than injecting heroin. also crow you're a male bird ergo opressing female crows by your very existence.