#12961
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#12962
Lol.
#12963
that was my entire point - that it is entirely irrational, especially for the average sepp. but there is still an internal logic about it, with capital getting some cheap labor without having to face the consequences. obviously politicians lose more than capital, but they also gain by either jockeying liberal multiculturalism or by barking back at the impending caliphate. it doesn't make sense, but it will make some money
#12964
i'd live in a norwegian prison
#12965
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#12966
Doesn't Swedish law also consider more things to be rape? For example Assange being accused of rape based on his lying about using a condom. I don't know if that's counted as rape in most legal systems
#12967
I read Killing Hope. Somehow every book in this thread has more dead kids than the last
#12968
before i realized i was a communist, i realized i wasn't a liberal because of my reflexive disgust at scandinavian prisons. lmao i couldn't reconcile my humanist side of being like, "that's probably the right thing to do" with the texan in me of, "that's some real degenerate shit"
#12969
finished reading Origins of the Family, Private Property, & the State again today, w/ Leacock's intro of course
#12970
I picked up The World's First Love, *subtitle* Mary, Mother of God by the venerable Fulton J. Sheen, going to start my reading now
#12971
I like this new conec poster
#12972

swampman posted:

HenryKrinkle posted:

conec posted:

they are hell holes now bcos of all the immigrants there lmao. sweden is now the "rape capital" of the world. germany`s economy will suffer immensely in the years to come bcos of all the asylum seekers - currently the government is paying 1,000 per month for each immigrant

please tell me this is a mustang hack.

please tell me this is a mustang hack.


please tell me this is mustang back

#12973
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#12974
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#12975
Today I was thinking about Norman Bethune, who served as a front lines doctor in the Spanish Civil War and with the Eighth Route Army in China. He died November 12th, 1939, from blood poisoning he received while operating on a wounded soldier. He was a good Communist. Here's something he wrote, to read if you like.

"Wounds"

The kerosene lamp overhead makes a steady buzzing sound like an incandescent hive of bees. Mud walls. Mud floor. Mud bed. White paper windows. Smell of blood and chloroform. Cold. Three o'clock in the morning, December 1, North China, near Lin Chu, with the 8th Route Army. Men with wounds. Wounds like little dried pools, caked with blackbrown earth; wounds with torn edges frilled with black gangrene; neat wounds, concealing beneath the abscess in their depths, burrowing into and around the great firm muscles like a dammed-back river, running around and between the muscles like a hot stream; wounds, expanding outward, decaying orchids or crushed carnations, terrible flowers of flesh; wounds from which the dark blood is spewed out in clots, mixed with the ominous gas bubbles, floating on the fresh flood of the still-continuing secondary haemorrhage.

Old filthy bandages stuck to the skin with blood-glue. Careful. Belief moisten first. Through the thigh. Pick the leg up. Why it's like a bag, a long, loose red stocking. What kind of stocking? A Christmas stocking. Where's that find strong rod of bone now? In a dozen pieces. Pick them out with your fingers; white as a dog's teeth, sharp and jagged. Now feel. Any more left? Yes, here. All? Yes; no, here's another piece. Is this muscle dead? Pinch it. Yes, it's dead, Cut it out. How can that heal? How can those muscles, once so strong, now so torn, so devastated, so ruined, resume their proud tension? Pull, relax. Pull, relax. What fun it was! Now that is finished. Now that's done. Now we are destroyed. Now what will we do with ourselves?

Next. What an infant! Seventeen. Shot through the belly. Chloroform. Ready? Gas rushes out of the opened peritoneal cavity. Odour of feces. Pink coils of distended intestine. Four perforations. Close them. Purse string suture. Sponge out the pelvis. Tube. Three tubes. Hard to close. Keep him warm. How? Dip those bricks into hot water.

Gangrene is a cunning, creeping fellow. Is this one alive? Yes, he lives. Technically speaking, he is alive. Give him saline intravenously. Perhaps the innumerable tiny cells of his body will remember. They may remember the hot salty sea, their ancestral home, their first food. With the memory of a million years, they may remember other tides, other oceans, and life being born of the sea and sun. It may make them raise their tired little heads, drink deep and struggle back into life again. It may do that.

And this one. Will he run along the road beside his mule at another harvest, with cries of pleasure and happiness? No, that one will never run again. How can you run with one leg? What will he do? Why, he'll sit and watch the other boys run. What will he think? He'll think what you and I would think. What's the good of pity? Don't pity him! Pity would diminish his sacrifice. He did this for the defence of China. Help him. Lift him off the table. Carry him in your arms. Why, he's as light as a child! Yes, your child, my child.

How beautiful the body is: how perfect its pads; with what precision it moves; how obedient, proud and strong. How terrible when torn. The little flame of life sinks lower and lower, and with a flicker, goes out. It goes out like a candle goes out. Quietly and gently. It makes its protest at extinction, then submits. It has its day, then is silent.

Any more? Four Japanese prisoners. Bring them in. In this community of pain, there are no enemies. Cut away that blood-stained uniform. Stop that haemorrhage. Lay them beside the others. Why, they're alike as brothers! Are these soldiers professional man-killers? No, these are amateurs-in-arms. Workman's hands. These are workers-in-uniform.

No more. Six o'clock in the morning. God, it's cold in this room. Open the door. Over the distant, dark-blue mountains, a pale, faint line of light appears in the east. In an hour the sun will be up. To bed and sleep.

But sleep will not come. What is the cause of this cruelty, this stupidity? A million workmen come from Japan to kill or mutilate a million Chinese workmen. Why should the Japanese worker attack his brother worker, who is forced merely to defend himself. Will the Japanese worker benefit by the death of the Chinese? No, how can he gain? Then, in God's name, who will gain? Who is responsible for sending these Japanese workmen on this murderous mission? Who will profit from it? How was it possible to persuade the Japanese workmen to attack the Chinese Workman -- his brother in poverty; his companion in misery?

Is it possible that a few rich men, a small class of men, have persuaded a million men to attack, and attempt to destroy, another million men as poor as they? So that these rich may be richer still? Terrible thought! How did they persuade these poor men to come to China? By telling them the truth? No, they would never have cone if they had known the truth, Did they dare to tell these workmen that the rich only wanted cheaper raw materials, more markets and more profit? No, they told them that this brutal war was "The Destiny of the Race," it was for the "Glory of the Emperor," it was for the "Honour of the State," it was for their "King and Country."

False. False as hell!

The agents of a criminal war of aggression, such as this, must be looked for like the agents of other crimes, such as murder, among those who are likely to benefit from those crimes. Will the 80,000,000 workers of Japan, the poor farmers, the unemployed industrial workers -- will they gain? In the entire history of the wars of aggression, from the conquest of Mexico by Spain, the capture of India by England, the rape of Ethiopia by Italy, have the workers of those "victorious" countries ever been known to benefit? No, these never benefit by such wars. Does the Japanese workman benefit by the natural resources of even his own country, by the gold, the silver, the iron, the coal, the oil? Long ago he ceased to possess that natural wealth. It belongs to the rich, the ruling class. The millions who work those mines live in poverty. So how is he likely to benefit by the armed robbery of the gold, silver, iron, coal and oil from China? Will not the rich owners of the one retain for their own profit the wealth of the other? Have they not always done so?

It would seem inescapable that the militarists and the capitalists of Japan are the only class likely to gain by this mass murder, this authorized madness, this sanctified butchery. That ruling class, the true state, stands accused.

Are wars of aggression, wars for the conquest of colonies, then, just big business? Yes, it would seem so, however much the perpetrators of such national crimes seek to hide their true purpose under banners of high-sounding abstractions and ideals. They make war to capture markets by murder; raw materials by rape. They find it cheaper to steal than to exchange; easier to butcher than to buy. This is the secret of war. This is the secret of all wars. Profit. Business. Profit. Blood money.

Behind all stands that terrible, implacable God of Business and Blood, whose name is Profit. Money, like an insatiable Moloch, demands its interest, its return, and will stop at nothing, not even the murder of millions, to satisfy its greed. Behind the army stand the militarists. Behind the militarists stand finance capital and the capitalist. Brothers in blood; companions in crime.

What do these enemies of the human race look like? Do they wear on their foreheads a sign so that they may be told, shunned and condemned as criminals? No. On the contrary. they are the respectable ones. They are honoured. They call themselves, and are called, gentlemen. What a travesty on the name, Gentlemen! They are the pillars of the state, of the church, of society. They support private and public charity out of the excess of their wealth. they endow institutions. In their private lives they are kind and considerate. they obey the law, their law, the law of property. But there is one sign by which these gentle gunmen can be told. Threaten a reduction on the profit of their money and the beast in them awakes with a snarl. They become ruthless as savages, brutal as madmen, remorseless as executioners. Such men as these must perish if the human race is to continue. There can be no permanent peace in the world while they live. Such an organization of human society as permits them to exist must be abolished.

These men make the wounds.

1939

#12976
Beautiful.
#12977
there's a really good article how even in Sweden the goal of full employment caused "inflation" taht was so bad business had to betray the pact with the unions to seek it.

also i am getting treatment fuck you. my parents are just shitheads

also i may join medicin sans frontieres at some point and do combat medic stuff, but i have a lot of fucking training/etc. to do first.

anyways the Toyota War between Chad and Libya which the Chadians "won" was also financed by france/partly the CIA and i was looking it up because I want a toyota pickup as my first car that I buy, but it turns out that even in the coolest little wars in africa theres the stench of imperialism.

i would also say that anyone who thinks the french are just lapdogs of the US doesn't really understand foreign policy, how capital flows work, or that france actually still has huge amounts of control in Africa and a decent amount of independence from the US (as compared to say, the UK, or canada, or whoever).

but obviously french capitalists are just as nasty and fucked up in supporting dictatorships and genocide in africa as the US ones.

on the other hand theres medicin san frontieres (probably less DRM than we think, which i just looked up and is french military version of CIA) and also they invented fucking communism


oui!
#12978
Such men as these must perish if the human race is to continue. There can be no permanent peace in the world while they live. Such an organization of human society as permits them to exist must be abolished.

These men make the wounds.

that's where teh combat part in combat medic comes from, aka ak-4.7.mosin.nagant/katana/etc. etc.
#12979

NoFreeWill posted:

i would also say that anyone who thinks the french are just lapdogs of the US doesn't really understand foreign policy, how capital flows work, or that france actually still has huge amounts of control in Africa and a decent amount of independence from the US (as compared to say, the UK, or canada, or whoever).



Agreed, I think that a too literal understanding of polemical phrases like "puppets" "vassels", etc often leads to the downplaying of the reality of contradictions within the first world, the West, and even the Anglophone Atlanticist bloc itself.

A key element of the Greek debt crisis, for example, is missed if one brackets out the differing interest of Germany and the US in that affair.

#12980
despite naked capitalism not being as left as many people here would want, yves called out the absolute failure of varoufakis being inevitable if he didn't take a much harder line negotiating approach (or do things KKE style as we would like).

also she does run financial advising firm, but also is a badass journalist who publishes the only good stuff on finance i see anywhere. also lord koos posts in the comments there and i learned a lot about ecology/technology from reading the archdruid report and lambert (other main NC blogger guy) and lowtech magazine.

the main failure of NC is that they don't understand how to organize politically, the necessary violence of resistance, and many of them vote, but they are usually good local-politics people/etc. who we also need as allies...
#12981

NoFreeWill posted:

i would also say that anyone who thinks the french are just lapdogs of the US doesn't really understand foreign policy, how capital flows work, or that france actually still has huge amounts of control in Africa and a decent amount of independence from the US (as compared to say, the UK, or canada, or whoever).



if france has any independence worthy of the name how come mitterand wasn't able to push thru his milquetoast leftist project in the 80s hah

#12982
http://yaledailynews.com/blog/2015/11/11/racist-signs-found-on-old-campus/

YPD Lieutenant Brian Logan said his department’s investigation of the incident is ongoing and declined to provide further information, but the self-described comedy group “Million Dollar Extreme” — which, according to its Facebook page, consists of three men who produce “alternative comedy” for the Internet — posted a picture of two men holding the signs in question. Multiple students said they had seen these men carrying the signs on campus earlier in the day.

Nelson said that after two students saw the signs on Old Campus, they grew offended and scared. The signs were then removed from the area by another party, she said, and the situation was reported to her.

“The words were strong and scary enough that the students who saw it were shaken and scared,“ Nelson said. “It’s bad that something like this would happen at a time when students are already so fragile.”

#12983
ur probably taking his side, but it's always hard to tell
mde is good because he trolls white hipsters by using the words nigger and faggot at standup comedy/open mic stuff and also trolled TED talks and also has this video about cops, but yeah... this is good tho

FYAD good, lf bad, rhizzone best forum

we ride til we die,

EAST LA ANTIFUCKJOB CLUB
#12984

NoFreeWill posted:

ur probably taking his side, but it's always hard to tell


I don't know what the other side of the sign says, but I think he's probably being an idiot. The students being called "scared" multiple times makes the Yale kids sound dumb too though. I talked to someone who works at a university health services office and she said the number of students coming in reporting anxiety has tripled from last year. That's sort of alarming.

#12985

littlegreenpills posted:

NoFreeWill posted:

i would also say that anyone who thinks the french are just lapdogs of the US doesn't really understand foreign policy, how capital flows work, or that france actually still has huge amounts of control in Africa and a decent amount of independence from the US (as compared to say, the UK, or canada, or whoever).

if france has any independence worthy of the name how come mitterand wasn't able to push thru his milquetoast leftist project in the 80s hah



That France lacks the freedom to pursue left-wing policy objectives doesn't mean its foreign policy interests are not distinct, even while they are broadly convergent with it. The choice is not between either thinking France is somehow entirely free of American hegemony or considering it a mere satrap. For that matter,it would be debatable how analytically, as opposed to propagandistically, useful that word would be to describe any contemporary states subordinate to the United States, because all those relationships are governed, formally, by a modern legal framework that reflects social realities very different from those of ancient Near-East empires.

#12986
"Under de Gaulle, France had let go of Algeria and Guinea but clung on to the remaining African colonial areas with such tenacity that well into the twenty-first century the CFA (Central African Franc) still subjects fourteen former colonies to the monetary control of the French treasury, while a dominating influence is maintained over military, cultural, and economic affairs. France has acted like a gendarme of today’s imperialism, intervening more than thirty times in Africa and most recently leading the charge in the NATO destruction of Libya."

http://monthlyreview.org/2015/07/01/imperialism-and-anti-imperialism-in-africa/
#12987

RedMaistre posted:

analytically, as opposed to propagandistically



this is why evil triumphs, because good is in grad school

#12988

littlegreenpills posted:

RedMaistre posted:

analytically, as opposed to propagandistically

this is why evil triumphs, because good is in grad school



I wish I could afford to go to grad school...or could believe that doing so would lead me to viable and satisfying employment.

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#12989
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#12990

ilmdge posted:

The students being called "scared" multiple times makes the Yale kids sound dumb too though.


this could be true but it is at least as likely that they would report it this way regardless because it makes them sound dumb.

#12991

NoFreeWill posted:

ur probably taking his side, but it's always hard to tell
mde is good because he trolls white hipsters by using the words nigger and faggot at standup comedy/open mic stuff and also trolled TED talks and also has this video about cops, but yeah... this is good tho

FYAD good, lf bad, rhizzone best forum

we ride til we die,

EAST LA ANTIFUCKJOB CLUB


link 2 sam hyde's crazy reddit dot com rant https://www.reddit.com/r/milliondollarextreme/comments/3luw09/is_mde_becoming_more_right_leaning_from_a/cva0nd2

MDE is more interesting than milquetoast MOR sketch comedy groups in the same way reading paranoid neoreactionary shit is more entertaining than goig on like, dailykos or some shit. they do end up making some funny videos (the brooklyn vids, the one where they go to a car show, the one with the rapper son, ideas man, the anime con thing, the TEDx talk, some of sam hydes cellphone vids) but these guys are definitely dumb as hell politically and their sincere rants about basically white pride and male pride and all that stuff is embarassing but also really boring, their delusional worldview was ez to ignore when it was treated like part of the joke of their vids but when expressed its just stupid. if theyre gonna start just actually walking around w/ signs thath ave "black crime stats" on them then theyre actually like matt and trey level tedious

#12992
sam hyde is funny because he's a fucking maniac. he doesnt have any worthwhile opinions. theres nothing more to it than that.
#12993
like sam is a deeply bitter self loathing weirdo who knows how to fucking excoriate people he hates. as a disenfranchised petit-bourgeois he's also a fascist. its like reading anything by mark ames or john dolan, they're funny because they're spot on and ruthless in their mockery but their opinions are idiotic.
#12994
"whites need to regain some sort of cohesive tribal self-interest and identity"
#12995
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#12996

Gibbonstrength posted:

like sam is a deeply bitter self loathing weirdo who knows how to fucking excoriate people he hates. as a disenfranchised petit-bourgeois he's also a fascist. its like reading anything by mark ames or john dolan, they're funny because they're spot on and ruthless in their mockery but their opinions are idiotic.


i dont really think its possible to compare mark ames to literal white supremacists like mde

#12997
dolan could probably go either way tho
#12998
i started listening to the Pando podcast out of curiosity and masochism and ames and dolan were on chattin 'bout the Psychology of the Russians and my brother in law overheard and he was like "who are these morons"
#12999

piss posted:

NoFreeWill posted:

ur probably taking his side, but it's always hard to tell
mde is good because he trolls white hipsters by using the words nigger and faggot at standup comedy/open mic stuff and also trolled TED talks and also has this video about cops, but yeah... this is good tho

FYAD good, lf bad, rhizzone best forum

we ride til we die,

EAST LA ANTIFUCKJOB CLUB

link 2 sam hyde's crazy reddit dot com rant https://www.reddit.com/r/milliondollarextreme/comments/3luw09/is_mde_becoming_more_right_leaning_from_a/cva0nd2

MDE is more interesting than milquetoast MOR sketch comedy groups in the same way reading paranoid neoreactionary shit is more entertaining than goig on like, dailykos or some shit. they do end up making some funny videos (the brooklyn vids, the one where they go to a car show, the one with the rapper son, ideas man, the anime con thing, the TEDx talk, some of sam hydes cellphone vids) but these guys are definitely dumb as hell politically and their sincere rants about basically white pride and male pride and all that stuff is embarassing but also really boring, their delusional worldview was ez to ignore when it was treated like part of the joke of their vids but when expressed its just stupid. if theyre gonna start just actually walking around w/ signs thath ave "black crime stats" on them then theyre actually like matt and trey level tedious


Agreed. It was funny until it got too political. Once the critical distance and irony were lost MDE really went downhill. Having a commitment to what comes out of your mouth is very uncomedic, and doesn't relate to how I choose to live my life, which is open-ended (mouth and anus) and free from any commitments deeper than a netflix account. It instantly alienated me when I found out they were kind of being serious about gays and immigrants, otherwise I would've laughed lots when they said the faggot word and talked about the jewish subversion of our civilization as long as they followed it with a wink.

#13000
It's good for that big retardo to own Yale. B but the politics of... No. Shut. The fuck. Up.