#1
Chomsky isn't going to be around forever so I thought now would be a good time to come up with a list of public speakers that share our perspective of the world.

I haven't done extensive research of these people so if they have any negative baggage let me know.

Chris Hedges - Socialist columnist at Truthdig, seems to be getting more radicalized over time.
Kshama Sawant - A member of Socialist Alternative, succeeded in the campaign for Seattle's $15 minimum wage.
David Harvey - Marxist professor in New York, treats Marx literature like the Bible.
Abby Martin - Worked for RT America exposing imperialist info for a while, maybe a socialist?
Glenn Greenwald? - A founding editor of The Intercept, not really sure how far to the left he is.




#2
Your law enforcement database probably already has a subcategory for this.
#3

Synergy posted:

Chomsky isn't going to be around forever so I thought now would be a good time to come up with a list of public speakers that share our perspective of the world.



What is your perspective of the world?

#4
Khaled Bakarat

Jose Maria Sison

Malalai Joya

Glen Coulthard

Leila Khaled

Pam Palmater

Moussa Ibrahim

e: Arundhati Roy

Edited by SparksBandung ()

#5
Sam Kriss - London-based bon vivant who provides bleeding edge commentary on the news of the day.
Grover Furr - Prominent academic who defends socialist leaders.
J. Sakai - Pseudonym used by a prominent member of this forum.
Clarence Tuppins - Florida-based writer whose wife died.
Alex - Real name of user "Thug Lessons", who is an expert on Trotskyism.
#6
Abby Martin is absolutely a socialist. She works for TelesurTV now, making a series called Empire Files where she investigates Amerikkka's crimes. Her journalism is phenomenal.
E: Richard D. Wolff is a Marxist economist that heads the group Democracy@Work, mostly to advocate for co-ops. Check out his "Global Capitalism Updates" on Youtube.
#7
Hillary Rodham Clinton is one of americas most prominent leftist female voices, a real rising star whose words have liberated hundreds of thousands of children in Iraq, Libya, and Syria (just to start!) from daily oppression and hardship.

Bernard Sanders is the head of the socialists in the US Congress

Barack Obama murders children with video game robot planes and makes jokes about it and looks uncomfortable when around other people making jokes about it
#8
castro turned 90 the weekend before last

go fidel
#9

colddays posted:

Abby Martin is absolutely a socialist. She works for TelesurTV now, making a series called Empire Files where she investigates Amerikkka's crimes. Her journalism is phenomenal.


I appreciate that she covers really important material on her show, and her approach is properly anti-imperialist (as the name of the show would suggest), but I find her manner of speech really ponderous, and combined with the repetitive overbearing soundtrack it's really insufferable. It would be nice to have exactly the same material covered in a style that doesn't so closely emulate libertarian conspiracy documentaries about the fed.

#10

pogfan1996 posted:

Synergy posted:

Chomsky isn't going to be around forever so I thought now would be a good time to come up with a list of public speakers that share our perspective of the world.

What is your perspective of the world?



iirc, his perspective of the world is that we shouldn't have supported the Emanuel African Methodist Episcopal Church after the Dylann Roof shootings because churches are bad

#11
i think the style choice is really pro because its exactly what the broadcasting UFO themed talk radio from a trailer in the desert crew needs. i'm sure you can pick up telesur on those big ass satellite dishes those people always have
#12
thought this thread would be about the football man

may i add:
the football man
#13

pogfan1996 posted:

What is your perspective of the world?



I'm still figuring that out. I consider myself a socialist but I haven't associated myself with any specific tendencies (communism, anarchism, etc). Most people here have like 10x the knowledge I have so I just try to learn as much as possible while hopefully not getting in the way and making a fool out of myself. I guess it's good practice for you guys since you're going to have to reason with a lot of average folks if you want a successful revolution.

#14

Synergy posted:

pogfan1996 posted:

What is your perspective of the world?

I'm still figuring that out. I consider myself a socialist but I haven't associated myself with any specific tendencies (communism, anarchism, etc). Most people here have like 10x the knowledge I have so I just try to learn as much as possible while hopefully not getting in the way and making a fool out of myself. I guess it's good practice for you guys since you're going to have to reason with a lot of average folks if you want a successful revolution.



Not to hijack this thread, but I think if you go more in depth into "why socialism" and give us some introspection on your political development, it might help us find stuff that would be helpful. Based on what you told me, Michael Parenti is a great speaker to watch and help gain additional context on current events.

Parenti on Yugoslavia:
https://youtu.be/GEzOgpMWnVs

Parenti on Sustainable/Socialist Economies vs Capitalism
https://youtu.be/FZqwlNpXelg

He also has written over 20 books, all of them are very accessible to read and compelling. If you like debates and want to learn the arguments against neoliberal hawks, he debated hitchens over iraq.

#15
synergy, you've had this schtick in at least a couple LF forums. "i'm learning, i haven't decided on this or that." ok, but it's been a couple years now... what HAVE you learned so far? because writing things like "Chomsky...shares our worldview" would seem to indicate that you haven't learned much at all!

most people are happy to help out and point you in the right direction -- there are a lot of resources, suggestions, reading lists, etc. out there. but at some point you gotta put in the effort, otherwise it just feels like you're asking people to do your homework for you.
#16

Petrol posted:

I find her manner of speech really ponderous, and combined with the repetitive overbearing soundtrack it's really insufferable.


Yeah, and the visuals tend to go off the deep end too. Stylistically it needs a lot of work, but the content is properly good.

#17

shapes posted:

synergy, you've had this schtick in at least a couple LF forums. "i'm learning, i haven't decided on this or that." ok, but it's been a couple years now... what HAVE you learned so far? because writing things like "Chomsky...shares our worldview" would seem to indicate that you haven't learned much at all!



Most of what I've learned over the years is the destructiveness of capitalism, whether it's imperialism, corporate corruption, racism, sexism, homophobia, etc. I've haven't spent as much time examining the different branches of socialism because many of them seem equally possible.

Also in regards to Chomsky, I'm not saying you or everyone else completely agrees with him but his views of the world are pretty similar to the people that frequent this forum.

most people are happy to help out and point you in the right direction -- there are a lot of resources, suggestions, reading lists, etc. out there. but at some point you gotta put in the effort, otherwise it just feels like you're asking people to do your homework for you.



I'm just trying to have some interesting/fun conversations with people. I don't think I need to know everything about political ideologies to do that and the majority of people out there don't either. Personally, I think it's cool that there are some really knowledgeable people here but becoming an expert of certain topics is not really a priority for me.

#18
you're a tourist
#19
Kick the noobies ass!!
#20
yeah now that i think about it i think he was run out of here for concern trolling awhile ago and now hes back making the same sort of posts
#21
dont be mean please.
#22
I can't get a handle on Greenwald's politics, OP. I guess he's kind of a libertarian when it comes to social and privacy issues, but is anti-capitalist and social-democrat on most things, but loathes the Democratic party. His invocations of what The Founding Fathers would think used to be constant but have steadily tapered off to nothingness. Generally he is good though even if I doubt he's read a work of Marxism in his life.
#23
he's a libertarian who has been slowly becoming an anti-imperialist because he pays attention to what's actually happening in an honest way but still hasn't engaged in the self-crit necessary to lose the trappings of his ideological baggage. he's a like a typical white LF poster who never posted on LF to be mocked out of his former belief system.
#24

colddays posted:

Petrol posted:

I find her manner of speech really ponderous, and combined with the repetitive overbearing soundtrack it's really insufferable.

Yeah, and the visuals tend to go off the deep end too. Stylistically it needs a lot of work, but the content is properly good.


Yeah. I mean she'd be a pretty decent starting point for anyone who isn't bothered by the style and can benefit from the overview she offers of a range of anti-imperialist issues. Having said that,

pogfan1996 posted:

Michael Parenti is a great speaker to watch and help gain additional context on current events.


+1. Parenti is great, I hadn't even heard of him until relatively recently and it was probably through a post here. He actually offers material analysis in an accessible way, with humor and passion. He also presents original research rather than just synthesis.

I am reminded of this article that got passed around a few months back which Synergy and any lurkers similarly confused as to why there's so much hostility here towards Chomsky might benefit from checking out. It compares him to Parenti both in terms of rhetoric and content. The comparison is not flattering for ol' Chommers. https://lorenzoae.wordpress.com/2016/05/31/chomsky-vs-parenti/

#25
he's a conduit of state limited hangouts
https://theintercept.com/2014/03/01/journalistic-independence/
#26
thats also a possibility and i know other prominent people here have said similar things about other leaks wrt snowden etc.

but the whole reasoning seems a little convoluted to me esp. when ppl like greenwald seem to take a consistently anti-imperialist line :shrug:
#27

Spatial_Reasoning posted:

he's a conduit of state limited hangouts
https://theintercept.com/2014/03/01/journalistic-independence/


not, i think, a KNOWING one. but at the very least, he lends an air of anti-establishment fervour to the intercept which is almost entirely unwarranted. he does some great reporting at times, most recently on the dirty goings-on in brazil, and i will say that the intercept actually does employ some decent traditional journos like lee fang (he's mostly interested in lobbyist money in domestic US politics)

but the biggest problem with greenwald really is his politics. his post about journalistic independence illustrates quite neatly why libertarians make shitty investigative journalists - how can they really "follow the money" properly when they're openly disinterested in the power networks and politics of the owners of their own publications? of COURSE you are given a free hand to write what you like, glenn. it doesn't occur to you to look into the things your employers would prefer you not to, and even when they're brought to your attention, you hand-wave it away with the self-assurance of someone who believes any peer criticism of their work can only be driven by jealousy.

#28
last time i engaged a libertarian was because he claimed it was a "stupid question" to have people ask where the funding from his think tank came from and was instead indicative of an unwillingness to engage in the "pure" ideas they were espousing, which is usual reductivist libertarian logic divorced from actual material reality
#29

Synergy posted:

Chomsky isn't going to be around forever



phew, but who will pick up his crown as the cias most successful agent?

#30

tears posted:

Synergy posted:
Chomsky isn't going to be around forever


phew, but who will pick up his crown as the cias most successful agent?



Barrack obama

#31
Horror thriller idea: everyone on the planet realizes that they work for the CIA
#32

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

Horror thriller idea: everyone on the planet realizes that they work for the CIA


#33
Economists and leftists hate this one easy cure for stagflation. Obama wants EVERYONE on the black budget
#34
When you think about it, for the purposes of the State, a perfect citizen is no more than a paid informant.

Wake.

The fuck.

Up.

From.

Your slumber.

Sheepyheads.
#35

aerdil posted:

he's a libertarian who has been slowly becoming an anti-imperialist because he pays attention to what's actually happening in an honest way but still hasn't engaged in the self-crit necessary to lose the trappings of his ideological baggage. he's a like a typical white LF poster who never posted on LF to be mocked out of his former belief system.



yeah this

#36

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

dont be mean please.

who is this

#37
rhizzone project: educate glenn greenwald via twitter through a barrage of insults and attacks in such a way thart he undergoes a simulacrum of the purifying lf reeducation experience,f inally completing his arrested metamorphasis from disugsting libertarian into beautiful full blown Commie
#38
colin kaepernick?
#39

stegosaurus posted:

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

dont be mean please.

who is this



i'm being nicer. plus this person isn't a mental case coming at me swinging

#40
did u see him wearing the fidel castro shirt and malcolm hat... cool shit