#81

corey posted:

poors buy big ol tvs on like finance agreements with hugeass interest. just another way their forced into "debt peonage" imo. ive read david grabber.




ya those scum. bible aint eve out on blu ray there's no reasomn to own a tv

#82
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#83
iirc most superpoors get tvs on layaway and dont pay for them
#84
its kind of like how in the 90s ppl were all "our prisoners are too spoiled, did you know that they have COLOR TV??" and it's like dude they haven't manufactured a black and white tv in 25 years, do you really want us rummaging through antique stores all over the nation just so we can fuck with these people
#85
if theyre so poor why arent they sitting in the dark telling each other stories
#86

Goethestein posted:

its kind of like how in the 90s ppl were all "our prisoners are too spoiled, did you know that they have COLOR TV??" and it's like dude they haven't manufactured a black and white tv in 25 years, do you really want us rummaging through antique stores all over the nation just so we can fuck with these people


lol http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/myths.html

#87
i think doug stanhope has a joke about colour tvs and people rummaging through yard sales trying to get them because people always get mad at prisoners for having colour tv at their cells.
#88
I think you probably smell like spoiled milk
#89
people in my neighbourhood call me jupiter because i'm massive and gaseous
#90
yeah if you have even a single modern convenience or source of enjoyment in your life, i dont want to hear shit about how poor you are. come talk to me when youre living in a wet cardboard box in the middle of a dark alley like the REAL poors

*actual homeless person tries to talk to me* *walks away quickly and avoids eye contact*
#91
possibly when people treat middle-class people as if they are poor that isn't advancing any progressive cause because then those people flip out if you ask them for any tax money to like take homeless people off the street because their son's acting lessons hang in the balance.
#92
we can make EVERYONE better off, all we need to do is tax the rich and be bad at math
#93
how can you be bad at adding and subtracting fictional quantities? you just make up a number, ask any bank
#94
"you see, housing appreciates in value because pressure-treated lumber slowly fossilizes into gold when not in the presence of melanin"
#95

getfiscal posted:

possibly when people treat middle-class people as if they are poor that isn't advancing any progressive cause because then those people flip out if you ask them for any tax money to like take homeless people off the street because their son's acting lessons hang in the balance.

i dont like to say things like 'you just dont get economics' but, well, you just dont get economics

#96

cleanhands posted:

he made fantasy a reality and thats a no go bro



ish it not, in fact, ze reality which must not be made fantasy? ze command of the shuperego is (hueerg) to enjoy, but jat enjoyment musht always be of ze shymbolic order, we are forbeedden to enjoy the real. an example: i was in a hotel room, i shaw this theeng, you may have seen it, a chocolate laxative....

#97

cleanhands posted:

getfiscal posted:

possibly when people treat middle-class people as if they are poor that isn't advancing any progressive cause because then those people flip out if you ask them for any tax money to like take homeless people off the street because their son's acting lessons hang in the balance.

i dont like to say things like 'you just dont get economics' but, well, you just dont get economics

I've read more Monkey Smashes Heaven articles in my life than you've read all printed material put together. Your move.

#98
in ontario the whole white aggrieved middle class thing worked out so well that a right-wing party was elected that gutted social programs and welfare payments and put all of that money into tax cuts for the middle class. now even the "socialist" party fights for gasoline tax cuts.
#99

TROT_CUMLOVER posted:

Goethestein posted:

its kind of like how in the 90s ppl were all "our prisoners are too spoiled, did you know that they have COLOR TV??" and it's like dude they haven't manufactured a black and white tv in 25 years, do you really want us rummaging through antique stores all over the nation just so we can fuck with these people

lol http://www.dc.state.fl.us/oth/myths.html



damn how do you not have air conditioning in florida

#100

babyfinland posted:

damn how do you not have air conditioning in florida


it's pretty common. a few prisoners invariably die in texas or florida or wherever every year from heat stroke. but most corrections departments don't make pages boasting about it like florida does lol

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#101

getfiscal posted:

cleanhands posted:

getfiscal posted:

possibly when people treat middle-class people as if they are poor that isn't advancing any progressive cause because then those people flip out if you ask them for any tax money to like take homeless people off the street because their son's acting lessons hang in the balance.

i dont like to say things like 'you just dont get economics' but, well, you just dont get economics

I've read more Monkey Smashes Heaven articles in my life than you've read all printed material put together. Your move.

http://fightallfakes.wordpress.com/

#102
i have a crt television and im not even fuckin poor wtf mates i want a plasma...
#103

Superabound posted:

"you see, housing appreciates in value because pressure-treated lumber slowly fossilizes into gold when not in the presence of melanin"

#104
http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/12/02/the-bomb-buried-in-obamacare-explodes-today-halleluja/
#105

getfiscal posted:

i wonder if that dude had two statements prepared where the other one was like in a 5-4 decision our liberties, and our freedoms, but most importantly, our right to personal autonomy, have been upheld by a glorious resistance in the form of our robed minutemen for freedom.



#106

Superabound posted:

http://www.forbes.com/sites/rickungar/2011/12/02/the-bomb-buried-in-obamacare-explodes-today-halleluja/

i read something that actually worked in the public interest and instantly dismissed it as fabrication, whats the real story here

#107
somehwere.....in teh middle
#108
Obama supporters are saying that the provision that 85% -80% of premiums must go to pay for healthcare, will destroy private insurance and lead us to single payer. Does anyone think that's true? Isn't it more probable that they'll just put the squeeze on their administrative staff while keeping massive ceo pay packages?

Is there any massive Obama policy failure that obama supporters won't try to play off as a secret trick that just hasn't paid off yet
#109

Myfanwy posted:

Obama supporters are saying that the provision that 85% -80% of premiums must go to pay for healthcare, will destroy private insurance and lead us to single payer. Does anyone think that's true? Isn't it more probable that they'll just put the squeeze on their administrative staff while keeping massive ceo pay packages?

Is there any massive Obama policy failure that obama supporters won't try to play off as a secret trick that just hasn't paid off yet

well that rule (medical loss ratio) was already in place in some major markets, as far as i know. it's more to stabilize administrative costs, which are sorta crazy, than reduce profits. i think it makes it harder on small insurers but there are already a lot of problems with small insurers just due to economies of scale / market power and so on.

#110
In his autobiography, Dreams From My Fathers, Barack Obama writes of taking a job at some point after graduating from Columbia University in 1983. He describes his employer as "a consulting house to multinational corporations" in New York City, and his functions as a "research assistant" and "financial writer".

Oddly, Obama doesn't mention the name of his employer. However, a New York Times story of October 30, 2007 identifies the company as Business International Corporation. Equally odd is that the Times did not remind its readers that the newspaper itself had disclosed in 1977 that Business International had provided cover for four CIA employees in various countries between 1955 and 1960.10

The British journal, Lobster — which, despite its incongruous name, is a venerable international publication on intelligence matters — has reported that Business International was active in the 1980s promoting the candidacy of Washington-favored candidates in Australia and Fiji.11 In 1987, the CIA overthrew the Fiji government after but one month in office because of its policy of maintaining the island as a nuclear-free zone, meaning that American nuclear-powered or nuclear-weapons-carrying ships could not make port calls.12 After the Fiji coup, the candidate supported by Business International, who was much more amenable to Washington's nuclear desires, was reinstated to power — R.S.K. Mara was Prime Minister or President of Fiji from 1970 to 2000, except for the one-month break in 1987.

In his book, not only doesn't Obama mention his employer's name; he fails to say exactly when he worked there, or why he left the job. There may well be no significance to these omissions, but inasmuch as Business International has a long association with the world of intelligence, covert actions, and attempts to penetrate the radical left — including Students for a Democratic Society (SDS)13 — it's reasonable to wonder if the inscrutable Mr. Obama is concealing something about his own association with this world.

Adding to the wonder is the fact that his mother, Ann Dunham, had been associated during the 1970s and 80s — as employee, consultant, grantee, or student — with at least five organizations with intimate CIA connections during the Cold War: The Ford Foundation, Agency for International Development (AID), the Asia Foundation, Development Alternatives, Inc., and the East-West Center of Hawaii.14 Much of this time she worked as an anthropologist in Indonesia and Hawaii, being in good position to gather intelligence about local communities.

As one example of the CIA connections of these organizations, consider the disclosure by John Gilligan, Director of AID during the Carter administration (1977-81). "At one time, many AID field offices were infiltrated from top to bottom with CIA people. The idea was to plant operatives in every kind of activity we had overseas, government, volunteer, religious, every kind."15 And Development Alternatives, Inc. is the organization for whom Alan Gross was working when arrested in Cuba and charged with being part of the ongoing American operation to destabilize the Cuban government.
#111
I wonder, when Obama writes his next autobiography, will it be a proper sequel or will it be a restart?
#112
Some guy claimed that a loss ratio of more than 85% is pretty normal in the health insurance industry as it is, and loss ratios of more than 100% aren't too uncommon, because the difference is made up from investment income
#113

aerdil posted:

In his autobiography, Dreams From My Fathers, Barack Obama writes of taking a job at some point after graduating from Columbia University in 1983. He describes his employer as "a consulting house to multinational corporations" in New York City, and his functions as a "research assistant" and "financial writer".

Oddly, Obama doesn't mention the name of his employer. However, a New York Times story of October 30, 2007 identifies the company as Business International Corporation. Equally odd is that the Times did not remind its readers that the newspaper itself had disclosed in 1977 that Business International had provided cover for four CIA employees in various countries between 1955 and 1960.10

The British journal, Lobster — which, despite its incongruous name, is a venerable international publication on intelligence matters — has reported that Business International was active in the 1980s promoting the candidacy of Washington-favored candidates in Australia and Fiji.11 In 1987, the CIA overthrew the Fiji government after but one month in office because of its policy of maintaining the island as a nuclear-free zone, meaning that American nuclear-powered or nuclear-weapons-carrying ships could not make port calls.12 After the Fiji coup, the candidate supported by Business International, who was much more amenable to Washington's nuclear desires, was reinstated to power — R.S.K. Mara was Prime Minister or President of Fiji from 1970 to 2000, except for the one-month break in 1987.

In his book, not only doesn't Obama mention his employer's name; he fails to say exactly when he worked there, or why he left the job. There may well be no significance to these omissions, but inasmuch as Business International has a long association with the world of intelligence, covert actions, and attempts to penetrate the radical left — including Students for a Democratic Society (SDS)13 — it's reasonable to wonder if the inscrutable Mr. Obama is concealing something about his own association with this world.

Adding to the wonder is the fact that his mother, Ann Dunham, had been associated during the 1970s and 80s — as employee, consultant, grantee, or student — with at least five organizations with intimate CIA connections during the Cold War: The Ford Foundation, Agency for International Development (AID), the Asia Foundation, Development Alternatives, Inc., and the East-West Center of Hawaii.14 Much of this time she worked as an anthropologist in Indonesia and Hawaii, being in good position to gather intelligence about local communities.

As one example of the CIA connections of these organizations, consider the disclosure by John Gilligan, Director of AID during the Carter administration (1977-81). "At one time, many AID field offices were infiltrated from top to bottom with CIA people. The idea was to plant operatives in every kind of activity we had overseas, government, volunteer, religious, every kind."15 And Development Alternatives, Inc. is the organization for whom Alan Gross was working when arrested in Cuba and charged with being part of the ongoing American operation to destabilize the Cuban government.

wait you mean barry was only pretending to be a college marxist

#114
people dont always know when theyre working for the CIA, fulfilling CIA goals
#115
wddp/rhizzone is one of the CIA's most productive projects. Turning potentially revolutionary marxists into impotent failaids diaper wearing trannies
#116

hey posted:

wddp/rhizzone is one of the CIA's most productive projects. Turning potentially revolutionary marxists into impotent failaids diaper wearing trannies

i don't wear diapers.

#117
if only more college students had radical political opinions
#118
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#119

tpaine posted:

Diagnosis: Fail AIDS.

you know that was the original title of that edie falco show about nursing right

#120

Superabound posted:

people dont always know when theyre working for the CIA, fulfilling CIA goals



i do; their name is on my paycheque