stegosaurus posted:

*tries that in the lab* *sets clothes on fire*

looks like this works in theory but not in practice

getfiscal posted:

and he combines the above points to basically say there's no political solution to abolishing capitalism, in that people will have to seek new ways of relating first, and build worker's councils and such to facilitate those relationships afterwards.

ha. haha Ha Ha hAh AhAhAha Jajaja xa xa

toy posted:

good post

i'd like to hear more of your perspective on the environmental movement there and the weird rich-people-only public transit

im gonna write a paper on this, give me a month or so

stegosaurus posted:

well they do internal audits and stuff. they go to great lengths to collect data on ridership, and they have to report that and explain it over time, and shit, and it seems like, if you're going to have an audit team or people whose job it is to uhhh, understand how effective the system is on a continual basis, how are they not doing what I'm doing already?

dont ask me, thats Pepe Silvia's department

drwhat posted:

steg what do you study specifically & would you recommend it

what do you mean, i'm in my final semester of a bs in econ. i would not recommend getting within 3 credits of 2 separate degrees over the course of 8 years.

getfiscal posted:

quebec election update: marois (PQ premier) just announced (on april 3rd) that half of any surplus will be used to cut personal and corporate taxes. the vote is on april 7th. so reporters were like umm where did this come from. so she said oh no one asked me about this before. like the biggest promise of the campaign a few days before the vote just because you're losing. legault (CAQ leader) was like damn that's desperate and sad, she's completely dead isn't she.

anyway she was winning when she started the campaign but she fucked it up so bad that now the liberals will probably win a majority

i might be moving to montreal in june. is PQ the party quebecois and supposedly more liberal than CAQ or are they right-wing?

NoFreeWill posted:

i might be moving to montreal in june. is PQ the party quebecois and supposedly more liberal than CAQ or are they right-wing?

PQ is center-left in rhetoric but in practice there isn't much difference between the three main parties anymore. CAQ is more right-wing but they more focus on corruption. the liberals (and the province) were run by a conservative until recently but the current leader is pretty centrist and it's uncertain whether he will do anything dumb. QS is a left party that i support but they will only win a handful of seats. QS officially wants to "go beyond capitalism" but otherwise they are just left-social-democratic.

drwhat posted:

I don't know, the PQ is pretty right wing to me and that is how it's spoken of around here a lot I think. La Charte des valeurs Québécoises really drove it home

well i mean on main economic questions they still call themselves social-democrats, still say they promote cooperatives and unions, still call for public influence on provincial investment, still support universal child care and public health, etc. the values charter is stolen from the ADQ but even there a lot of people think of it as something that can be a feminist or left thing (like hijab politics in france) - pierre dubuc / l'aut'journal promoted banning hijabs for a long time before they did it.

the party leadership is thoroughly neoliberal though and is to the right-wing of the party, especially this election, you're right.

stegosaurus posted:

update: got the data to do my train econometrics project.

i asked for ridership data stretching back to 1999 and that caused a lot of problems at utah transit authority HQ it seems, they were only able to find it back to 05 which is fine, but, that's weird, because if some idiot student is going to do basic stats work on some simple data, and that data isn't available, then what kind of analysis are they doing in-house?

uh easy, just find some low ranking people and tell them to get you the stats. if the stats seem unusually high or low, ask them if they're sure and tell them what you think the stats should be. then wait until they bring you the correct stats. in-house stats done, mission complete.

Lykourgos posted:

stegosaurus posted:

update: got the data to do my train econometrics project.

i asked for ridership data stretching back to 1999 and that caused a lot of problems at utah transit authority HQ it seems, they were only able to find it back to 05 which is fine, but, that's weird, because if some idiot student is going to do basic stats work on some simple data, and that data isn't available, then what kind of analysis are they doing in-house?

uh easy, just find some low ranking people and tell them to get you the stats. if the stats seem unusually high or low, ask them if they're sure and tell them what you think the stats should be. then wait until they bring you the correct stats. in-house stats done, mission complete.