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i really wasn't trying to increase awareness of furry porn okay. i think we're all pretty aware of the existence of furry porn.

i just saw someone arguing that porn should be illegal and that we were all filthy swine for consuming it and deserved bad things to happen to us and it triggered me.

iim mad about stuff on the internet.
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*steve erkel voice*

did i do that
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conec posted:

swampman posted:

Answer my question about what information you've collected on me, creeper

i dont have any info on you or anyone here aside from arguments theyve made in posts. yeah a lurker account lurked a number of you and found your real life stuff, thats not my fault. go suck a cock and fuck off

Yeah and you post hearsay from a lurker account that found real life stuff, and I want to know what hearsay you have about me. At this point, why should I believe that the lurker wasn't you? What's the difference?

And don't give me the "don't flatter yourself" line, I deliberately referred to that in my previous post. I would not be seriously harmed by doxxing. That doesn't invalidate my concern.

Go ahead and post some more parting shots, creeper. Then another random fact about a random poster. Then casually link someone's twitter account to their rhizzone account. Then another parting shot where you call someone retarded or a cunt. Then some other creeper shit. This is the pattern you've established.

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Mike Nelson here.
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conec is really big in roller derby in florida, where her battle name is "betty rage", and she has straight across bangs which she wears under a checkered handkerchief, with a jean jacket on, with very bright red lipstick, and orange tights and jean skirt, an outfit she wears to a local bar called Mischief, which plays rockabilly and outlaw country, and sometimes she karaokes b-52 songs. someone had to say this truth about conec.
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swampman posted:

Is this really what you think tsinava's stance is? It's sad to see you post this lunacy because I know you can actually be smart.



i think tsinava's stance is that promoting the idea that pornography should be illegal is inappropriate because of the existence of porn or erotica or whatever that is purely fictional and non-representational (such as illustrated gay furry porn)

i think this stance is an obtuse semantic distinction because it can be so easily inferred from context that most people are using a notion of pornography that doesn't include the latter (instead an idea of pornography as a representational product enacted by real individuals. we have had these kinds of discussions thousands of times on this forum without having to clarify this basic point)

i also just think it's really funny to accuse someone of tumblrism when your point centres on the fact that an argument fails to account for the existence of illustrated gay furry porn

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Oh ok bye!
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Mike Nelson here.
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in canada we ban drawings as well because the laws are not aimed at just preventing specific instances of abuse but rather the culture of abuse around it. sort of like how jaywalking is illegal even if it doesn't cause an accident in that instance.
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i think that's a sensible idea getfiscal but i'm also going to side with tsinava here and suggest that illustrated gay furry porn is a pretty reasonable exception to those kinds of laws.
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Mike Nelson here.
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yes, to clarify, i don't support the existence of laws.
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the thing getfiscal is talking about is mainly why im so upset by this language.

im sorry for getting so indignant about cartoon porn but im pretty paranoid about people going to jail for it i guess
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hey, legitimately wondering, did I ever say bad stuff about women here when i would get really drunk and post a while ago? i shouldnt have, but no inhibitions probably let your true thoughts out, those that you dont even regularly perceive you have.

also good thread.
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hi
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deviationist art
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tsinava posted:

im sorry for getting so indignant about cartoon porn but im pretty paranoid about people going to jail for it i guess

catchphrase

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plz don't gulag me after the revolution for linking this.

http://cheesegod69.tumblr.com/post/135848504656
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Peelzebub posted:

hey, legitimately wondering, did I ever say bad stuff about women here when i would get really drunk and post a while ago? i shouldnt have, but no inhibitions probably let your true thoughts out, those that you dont even regularly perceive you have.

You kept crying about how they're all so much smarter than you and you try to go talk to them and all that comes out is like "oof oof" while you mash your balls around under your loincloth, and the keepers give you almonds and applesauce on your birthday

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also you peed in it gwap
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what the fuck
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tsinava I'm pretty sure the fractious issue here is that conec was speaking about physical actually existing women abused by the pornography industry, which she has acknowledged doesn't have much to do with what you care about. it sucks that particular piece of context got missed, but I don't think you two needed to be upset with each other.

conec it really upsets me that you take the obsessive delusions of a man who is mentally ill seriously just because they happened to be about people you have a beef with. and that so much of that animosity now seems to be founded entirely on facts that... aren't factual. at all. its really fucked up to encourage that kind of thing. i expect you won't care what i have to say on the subject but i'd rather not have to witness it.

and i shouldn't need to point out that in this current environment it is really fucked up to even suggest you'd collect personal information on people here, let alone collaborate with people who do so with malicious intent.

whatever. i don't want to be a mediator here, in my vacation space away from the weight of the real world, and i don't think anyone wants me to be one. but this whole conversation has been a disgusting trainwreck and despite my desire to be non-interventionist i'm tempted to gas this thread.

the r H i z z o n E continues to take a strong abolitionist stance against the systemic exploitation and abuse of women perpetrated by the pornography "industry"
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c_man posted:

gas

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i cant believe conec is trying to sling mud at discipline for dispo being pro-femen after dispo wrote extensivel against them. & slinging mud at crow because of something a seriously mentally ill guy told her etc etc. weaponizing old dirt you have on peolpe, because they said something against oyu, is bad enough but even if this were helldump that disp/crow bs wouldnt fly
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gas this thread and make a new one for the furry porn debate
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blinkandwheeze posted:

gas this thread and make a new one for the furry porn debate

Mods change this poster's name to Fartin Luther King

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i'm sorry i went so off the rails. the whole pornshaming thing just kind of got to me.

i have serious doubts that even in a society where people didn't need to work to eat or stay sheltered, that porn would go away. I'm talking about specificaly recorded porn now.

people make porn these days for all sorts of reasons, sex addiction, exhibitionism, attention, money is really just an aside.

there is an unbelievable amount of freely available pornography right now of people just having sex with their partners or whatever. both women and men do this. I wouldn't categorize that as rape or prostitution, and i wouldn't make it illegal either.

i'm not saying that any of this is healthy, but i'm saying that attempting to stamp out the exploitation of women in commercial pornography by banning porn out right seems like a terrible idea since you're only driving up the demand for pornography or whatever alternatives there are to it (prostitution).

also shaming people for watching porn in general is a bad idea too. no one is innocent in this. we're on the freaking internet. cmon.
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at this point if you're really talking about banning specific types of porn production to prevent the exploitation of women, then you're not trying to ban porn at all, you're trying to regulate it. which i think is a better idea, than banning it at least.
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tsinava posted:

at this point if you're really talking about banning specific types of porn production to prevent the exploitation of women, then you're not trying to ban porn at all, you're trying to regulate it. which i think is a better idea, than banning it at least.

porn should be legal, but you are the only person allowed to star in it

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ok. i think everyone's said their piece. i won't try to stop it if it comes up again, but you're all clearly capable of discussing this in a relatively reasonable fashion without making us all ashamed to be part of this forum, so if someone wants to make a new thread let's keep aiming towards that in the future. (except goatstein)

time for this thread to go to bed.