Panopticon posted:was that planned in advance do you think, id have thought the organisations are too monolithic and obsessed with branding to do anything on the spur of the moment.
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Urbandale posted:its probably more accurate to say that the us military has been fairly effective but us imperialism is so weak that it cant leverage that particular tool with full efficacy. hence color revs, the failure in yugoslavia and somalia, the imperialist schism over iraq 2 and the inability to create an effective puppet state there, etc
do you mean the color revolutions that were planned, orchestrated, and materially supported by the CIA, or some other color revolutions i dont know about?
dipshit420 posted:a coworker of mine just said that his friend has to hire immigrants because americans won't do any labor. he said no americans will accept 2 dollars an hour when they can make 7 an hour at mcdonalds doing nothing.
my head hurts, rhizzone.
tell him they WILL accept $2 he just has to put out a tip jar first
swampman posted:i don't see anything special about the american left, they are as progressive and humanitarian as they possibly can be without ever risking their class comforts. just like any bourgeoisie. there is a practical limit to how anti-racist you can be when you also require a new smartphone every year or so.
it's probably a lot easier to feel millennial hope over bourgeois democracy when your country doesn't already have it. it doesn't make you right but i imagine it takes less energy.
Superabound posted:Urbandale posted:its probably more accurate to say that the us military has been fairly effective but us imperialism is so weak that it cant leverage that particular tool with full efficacy. hence color revs, the failure in yugoslavia and somalia, the imperialist schism over iraq 2 and the inability to create an effective puppet state there, etc
do you mean the color revolutions that were planned, orchestrated, and materially supported by the CIA, or some other color revolutions i dont know about?
i am not saying that the CIA isnt an integral aspect of the ability of the US to project its power. but what i am saying is that there is a reason its using the very inexpensive (in manpower, due to presunk costs into NGOs in the country and domestic NGOs funding them, like the AFL-CIO's international committee) methods they are using and not the military option. the strongarm military doesnt work and hasnt for decades.
Urbandale posted:its probably more accurate to say that the us military has been fairly effective but us imperialism is so weak that it cant leverage that particular tool with full efficacy. hence color revs, the failure in yugoslavia and somalia, the imperialist schism over iraq 2 and the inability to create an effective puppet state there, etc
the west succeeded in yugoslavia fyi
Urbandale posted:Superabound posted:
Urbandale posted:
its probably more accurate to say that the us military has been fairly effective but us imperialism is so weak that it cant leverage that particular tool with full efficacy. hence color revs, the failure in yugoslavia and somalia, the imperialist schism over iraq 2 and the inability to create an effective puppet state there, etc
do you mean the color revolutions that were planned, orchestrated, and materially supported by the CIA, or some other color revolutions i dont know about?
i am not saying that the CIA isnt an integral aspect of the ability of the US to project its power. but what i am saying is that there is a reason its using the very inexpensive (in manpower, due to presunk costs into NGOs in the country and domestic NGOs funding them, like the AFL-CIO's international committee) methods they are using and not the military option. the strongarm military doesnt work and hasnt for decades.
the strongarm military does work tho, as an occupying force once the proper environment has been prepared by intelligence operations. like all the talk about regional instability, soldier deaths etc that are mentioned in the news as benchmarks for military failure, but well, they aren't failures. those are military successes.
the US is succeeding at its goals. it has succeeded in Ukraine (need I remind that there is currently an occupation of heavy US ordinance), it has succeeded in iraq, in libya, and we'll probably see it succeed in syria in the next few years. if we reach back, it has succeeded in japan, in korea, even to a certain extent in cuba. we mistake chaos, death, suffering, and terror for failure because it is sold to us as such, as the tragic misadventures of a well meaning force failing to do good, but the imperial regime is more or less accomplishing all its goals and the military is helping to facilitate this all the way. working as intended.
cars posted:so........ ladies.... gentlemen... don't you often think to yourselves "whoa, wow, i miss OpenID login"
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babyhueypnewton posted:getfiscal posted:
babyhueypnewton posted:
the US military hasnt won shit in 40+ years. but when you have chinese people watching Modern Family and lamenting the lack of gay rights in China, that's imperial power.
i'm glad you've become an idealist and believe that the battle for ideas is primary, which is your position now, as an idealist.
In Terrorist Assemblages I propose a rapproachment of Foucauldian biopolitics and Achille Mbembe’s critique of it through what I call a ‘bio-necro collaboration’, one that conceptually acknowledges biopower’s direct activity to death, while remaining bound to the optimalization of life, and necropolitics’ nonchalance towards death even as it seeks out killing as a primary aim. I allege that it is precisely within the interstices of life and death that we find the differences between queer subjects who are being folded (back) into life and the racialized queernesses that emerge through the naming of populations, thus fueling the oscillation between the disciplining of subjects and control of populations. The result of the successes of queer incorporation into the domains of consumer markets and social recognition in the post-civil rights, late twentieth-century era, these various entries by queers into the biopolitics optimalization of life mark a shift, as homosexual bodies have been historically understood as endlessly cathected to death, from being figures of death (i.e., the AIDS pandemic) to becoming tied to ideas of life and productivity (i.e., gay marriage and reproductive kinship).
The fundamental feature of necrocapitalism is accumulation by dispossession and the creation of death worlds in colonial contexts . The historical context of contemporary practices of accumulation by dispossession, violence and death is situated in the early years of European colonialism. The ideology of the new empire reflected the needs of colonial modernities where older justifications of empire through civilization were reconfigured by economic conceptions of progress and development resulting in a form of capitalist imperialism
anybody read thisp osT? this guy saying gay people are zombies or skeletors or what
stegosaurus posted:what is the left position on the breakup of yugoslavia
as far as methods go, the US military and the soft power NGOs funded by USAID/NED are two sides of the same coin and rely on each other equally. if it weren't for US military air strikes and covert arms trafficking Yugoslavia and Libya might still be intact. likewise in Haiti, the subversive use of "civil society" NGOs to coordinate the anti-Aristide opposition would have failed if not for paramilitary rebels armed & trained by US Special Forces and the Dominican Republic's military.
HenryKrinkle posted:i think the US prefers Pinochet-style dictators but knows that it's generally unrealistic these days so it settles for destabilizing and destroying relatively independent regimes. sort of like how in Vietnam it ravaged the environment and bled the country so much through sanctions it made socialist development impossible and sweatshop-based rapprochement inevitable.
as far as methods go, the US military and the soft power NGOs funded by USAID/NED are two sides of the same coin and rely on each other equally. if it weren't for US military air strikes and covert arms trafficking Yugoslavia and Libya might still be intact. likewise in Haiti, the subversive use of "civil society" NGOs to coordinate the anti-Aristide opposition would have failed if not for paramilitary rebels armed & trained by US Special Forces and the Dominican Republic's military.
Yes, obviously, but how does this tie back to two men kissing
swirlsofhistory posted:HenryKrinkle posted:i think the US prefers Pinochet-style dictators but knows that it's generally unrealistic these days so it settles for destabilizing and destroying relatively independent regimes. sort of like how in Vietnam it ravaged the environment and bled the country so much through sanctions it made socialist development impossible and sweatshop-based rapprochement inevitable.
as far as methods go, the US military and the soft power NGOs funded by USAID/NED are two sides of the same coin and rely on each other equally. if it weren't for US military air strikes and covert arms trafficking Yugoslavia and Libya might still be intact. likewise in Haiti, the subversive use of "civil society" NGOs to coordinate the anti-Aristide opposition would have failed if not for paramilitary rebels armed & trained by US Special Forces and the Dominican Republic's military.Yes, obviously, but how does this tie back to two men kissing
yeah fuck critical thinking. two dudes making out ftw. This thread must be full of those ReTHUGlicans who are secretly gay.
these are not moral questions or questions of principle, they are either historical questions or tactical questions that have to be constantly reevaluated.
the main expansion of queer theory is to expand the concept of sexuality to all forms of capitalist biopolitics and not simply what is narrowly thought of as sex. this should be obvious after Freud but seems to have not penetrated the left. if we think of sexuality as a matter of inclusion and exclusion of populations, whether in economic terms (as reserve army of labor, proletarians and bourgeoisie, labor aristocracy, etc) or queer theory terms (as populations allowed to live under the state of exception or excluded from even being human/legible to power), then instead of thinking of gay rights as a progressive struggle, we instead see how it has been used to "queer" (turn into sexual deviants) Muslims and other targets of imperial machinations since the end of the cold war.
gay rights is not being won despite lack of progress in other areas or as an exception to Obama's global murder campaign but is in fact integral to it be reconstituting who is sexually normative and who is "perverse", largely for the purposes of propanagda against the Muslim world, Russia, and China.
getfiscal posted:
hmm
Pussy Riot [actually just the two that were kicked out, Maria Alyokhina and Nadezhda Tolokonnikova] will serve as the event’s international grand marshals, leading the Pride parade and taking the stage for a performance at Yonge-Dundas Square on Sunday, June 28.
NoFreeWill posted:homofascism, at last!
babyhueypnewton posted:instead of thinking of gay rights as a progressive struggle, we instead see how it has been used to "queer" (turn into sexual deviants) Muslims and other targets of imperial machinations since the end of the cold war.
