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lmbo
http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2012/11/24/war-on-men/#ixzz2DLu2I05t

The battle of the sexes is alive and well. According to Pew Research Center, the share of women ages eighteen to thirty-four that say having a successful marriage is one of the most important things in their lives rose nine percentage points since 1997 – from 28 percent to 37 percent. For men, the opposite occurred. The share voicing this opinion dropped, from 35 percent to 29 percent.
Believe it or not, modern women want to get married. Trouble is, men don’t.
The so-called dearth of good men (read: marriageable men) has been a hot subject in the media as of late. Much of the coverage has been in response to the fact that for the first time in history, women have become the majority of the U.S. workforce. They’re also getting most of the college degrees. The problem? This new phenomenon has changed the dance between men and women.
But what if the dearth of good men, and ongoing battle of the sexes, is – hold on to your seats – women’s fault?
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As the author of three books on the American family and its intersection with pop culture, I’ve spent thirteen years examining social agendas as they pertain to sex, parenting, and gender roles. During this time, I’ve spoken with hundreds, if not thousands, of men and women. And in doing so, I’ve accidentally stumbled upon a subculture of men who’ve told me, in no uncertain terms, that they’re never getting married. When I ask them why, the answer is always the same.
Women aren’t women anymore.
To say gender relations have changed dramatically is an understatement. Ever since the sexual revolution, there has been a profound overhaul in the way men and women interact. Men haven’t changed much – they had no revolution that demanded it – but women have changed dramatically.
In a nutshell, women are angry. They’re also defensive, though often unknowingly. That’s because they’ve been raised to think of men as the enemy. Armed with this new attitude, women pushed men off their pedestal (women had their own pedestal, but feminists convinced them otherwise) and climbed up to take what they were taught to believe was rightfully theirs.
Now the men have nowhere to go.
It is precisely this dynamic – women good/men bad – that has destroyed the relationship between the sexes. Yet somehow, men are still to blame when love goes awry. Heck, men have been to blame since feminists first took to the streets in the 1970s.
But what if the dearth of good men, and ongoing battle of the sexes, is – hold on to your seats – women’s fault?
You’ll never hear that in the media. All the articles and books (and television programs, for that matter) put women front and center, while men and children sit in the back seat. But after decades of browbeating the American male, men are tired. Tired of being told there’s something fundamentally wrong with them. Tired of being told that if women aren’t happy, it’s men’s fault.
Contrary to what feminists like Hanna Rosin, author of The End of Men, say, the so-called rise of women has not threatened men. It has pissed them off. It has also undermined their ability to become self-sufficient in the hopes of someday supporting a family. Men want to love women, not compete with them. They want to provide for and protect their families – it’s in their DNA. But modern women won’t let them.
It’s all so unfortunate – for women, not men. Feminism serves men very well: they can have sex at hello and even live with their girlfriends with no responsibilities whatsoever.
It’s the women who lose. Not only are they saddled with the consequences of sex, by dismissing male nature they’re forever seeking a balanced life. The fact is, women need men’s linear career goals – they need men to pick up the slack at the office – in order to live the balanced life they seek.
So if men today are slackers, and if they’re retreating from marriage en masse, women should look in the mirror and ask themselves what role they’ve played to bring about this transformation.
Fortunately, there is good news: women have the power to turn everything around. All they have to do is surrender to their nature – their femininity – and let men surrender to theirs.
If they do, marriageable men will come out of the woodwork.
Suzanne Venker has written extensively about politics, parenting, and the influence of feminism on American society. Her latest book, "How to Choose a Husband (And Make Peace with Marriage)" will be published in February 2013. Visit howtochooseahusband.com for more information.



*emerges from woodwork.*
*sees (gay)shadow*
*panicks*
*6 more weeks of failaids*

#2
oh great so were all termites now? *shames self further into unmarriageability*

#3
Goatstein, as the only successfully married member of the r'zone--how did you do it? Ive tried everything: 200 PSI, 250 PSI, every damn gear ratio i can think of, enough brass fittings to choke a narwhal and still, nothing. that ornithopter just wont fly, so to speak
#4
im married but it isn't very successful so far
#5
i mean like all she does is watch tv and eat. its fucking ridiculous
#6
this article says that the main problem is that women have responsibilities at home that men aren't prepared to share in and therefore women need to be more excited about doing them and let men be awesome at work instead so that there's a better balance. which is funny because it takes like the idea that women have double duties and then says that's unfair therefore swap back to the old balance. which is a cool thing to say to people are struggling to pay bills as is.
#7

littlegreenpills posted:

i mean like all she does is watch tv and eat. its fucking ridiculous

this is somehow your fault. - feminists.

#8
i'm married but certainly never considered myself as a marriageable man given my felony conviction
#9

littlegreenpills posted:

take my life, please ~!

#10

It’s the women who lose. Not only are they saddled with the consequences of sex, by dismissing male nature they’re forever seeking a balanced life. The fact is, women need men’s linear career goals – they need men to pick up the slack at the office – in order to live the balanced life they seek.
#11
if youre a married man who posts at known hate site "the rhizzone" you're probably doing it wrong, i.m.o.
#12
im writing a misogynist diatribe thinly disguised as a piece of short fiction about a man who watches five hours of pornography a day. Lol
#13
depends on if you're 25 like shermstick or fucking 32 like goatstein
#14

littlegreenpills posted:

i mean like all she does is watch tv and eat. its fucking ridiculous



#15
It’s all so unfortunate – for women, not men. Feminism serves men very well: they can have sex at hello and even live with their girlfriends with no responsibilities whatsoever.

my feminist girlfriend only stops doing housework for the times I demand to have sex with her. it's a pretty sweet gig that i dreamt up while trying to induce the psychosis this author was going through
#16
Getting married seems like it would be the end of your life really.

And this isn’t being a misogynist, I love women! I just wouldn’t want to spend all day playing these husband and wife roles for the sake of having this little social reproduction unit.
#17

deadken posted:

im writing a misogynist diatribe thinly disguised as a piece of short fiction about a man who watches five hours of pornography a day. Lol


*a post about if you asked goatstein for permission to use his posts or w/e idk*

#18

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

Getting married seems like it would be the end of your life really.

And this isn’t being a misogynist, I love women! I just wouldn’t want to spend all day playing these husband and wife roles for the sake of having this little social reproduction unit.



you can take the poster out of the goon forum but you cant take the goon out of the

#19

tentativelurkeraccount posted:

deadken posted:

im writing a misogynist diatribe thinly disguised as a piece of short fiction about a man who watches five hours of pornography a day. Lol

*a post about if you asked goatstein for permission to use his posts or w/e idk*

in a little while there's going to be a HUGE drama about deadken using goatstein's personal life for his story without his permission, and it's going to get deadken banned from postlanderplacegarden

#20
actually goatstein is one of my literary creations
#21

EmanuelaOrlandi posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:
Getting married seems like it would be the end of your life really.

And this isn’t being a misogynist, I love women! I just wouldn’t want to spend all day playing these husband and wife roles for the sake of having this little social reproduction unit.


you can take the poster out of the goon forum but you cant take the goon out of the



yeah i know it does seem goony. I understand how it works for some people.......but anyway as a show of solidarity i'm refusing to get married until Otherkin rights are recognized.

#22
its like when those nanowrimo guys complain that their characters have taken on a life of their own and changed sexual orientation or whatever, except mine has somehow acquired a forums account, a house in boston, a wife, and a chimerical semifictionalised child
#23

deadken posted:

its like when those nanowrimo guys complain that their characters have taken on a life of their own and changed sexual orientation or whatever, except mine has somehow acquired a forums account, a house in boston, a wife, and a chimerical semifictionalised child

i know that feeling.

#24
it's OK iwc im a goon too but when i say goon about myself i mean like in the sense of
#25
you don't know any 'feelings'
#26
Cycleone Boy! Cyclone boy! *chants around for cyclone boy* Hell yea it's prime time once again at the double Z zone.
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#29
I want to get married byut theres no good babes and its not a priority. thats the view, "As Kev Sees It"
#30
if your life isnt work, technically illegal public / in-store drinking, sleep, work, tv, sleep, work then u are a fucking bourgeoise scum
#31
pex was right about what? that canadian dude who roid raged his wife and kid to death? transsexual firemen?
#32
Literally everything dude.
#33
cool so if i meet a woman and it turns out she was born with a dick im within my rights to assault and possibly murder her?
#34
dp

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#35

discipline posted:

littlegreenpills posted:

i mean like all she does is watch tv and eat. its fucking ridiculous

I was with my ex for five years and it devolved into this. he was suffering from some pretty crippling depression and his job was eating him alive. is your wife happy?



naw she's happy as a clam p much. she's got generally used to me doing all the housework and shopping and cooking and earning money and doing basically everything she tells me, but hey at least I'm not individualized or atomized or anything

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littlegreenpills posted:

discipline posted:
littlegreenpills posted:
i mean like all she does is watch tv and eat. its fucking ridiculous
I was with my ex for five years and it devolved into this. he was suffering from some pretty crippling depression and his job was eating him alive. is your wife happy?


naw she's happy as a clam p much. she's got generally used to me doing all the housework and shopping and earning money and doing basically everything I tell her, but hey at least I'm not individualized or atomized or anything



lol

#37

Superabound posted:

Goatstein, as the only successfully married member of the r'zone--how did you do it? Ive tried everything: 200 PSI, 250 PSI, every damn gear ratio i can think of, enough brass fittings to choke a narwhal and still, nothing. that ornithopter just wont fly, so to speak



i think thug lessons also has some kind of obesening social justice type he got indian-bound to as marriage is a tool of capitalism

#38
the secret of a successful marriage is love.
#39

Goethestein posted:

Superabound posted:

Goatstein, as the only successfully married member of the r'zone--how did you do it? Ive tried everything: 200 PSI, 250 PSI, every damn gear ratio i can think of, enough brass fittings to choke a narwhal and still, nothing. that ornithopter just wont fly, so to speak

i think thug lessons also has some kind of obesening social justice type he got indian-bound to as marriage is a tool of capitalism



*coughs* *takes a drink of water* *clears throat* What

#40

angelbutt_dollface posted:

cool so if i meet a woman and it turns out she was born with a dick im within my rights to assault and possibly murder her?



it is impossible to meet a woman who was born with a dick