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Convictions:
- Staff Sgt. Cardenas J. Alban, convicted of killing a severely wounded 16-year-old Iraqi during fighting in Baghdad's Sadr City. He was sentenced to one year's confinement, demoted to private and given a bad-conduct discharge.
- Staff Sgt. Johnny Horne Jr., pleaded guilty to unpremeditated murder in the same case as Alban. He was sentenced to three years in prison, had his rank reduced to private, forfeited wages and was given a dishonorable discharge. His prison sentence was later reduced to one year to be consistent with Alban's case.
- Cpl. Dustin Berg of the Indiana National Guard, convicted and sentenced to serve 18 months in prison and a bad-conduct discharge for the shooting death of an Iraqi police officer.
- Spc. Rami Dajani, convicted of involuntary manslaughter (accessory after the fact) and making a false statement following the fatal shooting of an Iraqi translator. He was sentenced to 18 months in confinement, reduced in rank to private and given a bad-conduct discharge.
- Spc. Charley L. Hooser, convicted of involuntary manslaughter in the same case involving Dajani. Hooser was sentenced to three years in prison and given a reduction in rank to private and a bad-conduct discharge.
- Capt. Rogelio "Roger" Maynulet, convicted of assault with intent to commit voluntary manslaughter in the shooting death of a wounded Iraqi. He got no prison time, but was dismissed from the armed forces.
- Pvt. Federico Daniel Merida of the North Carolina National Guard, pleaded guilty to killing a 17-year-old Iraqi soldier after the two had consensual sex. He was sentenced to 25 years in prison, reduced in rank to private and dishonorably discharged. (note the heavy sentence for faggotry - Gomm)
- Marine Maj. Clarke Paulus, convicted of dereliction of duty and maltreatment in a case stemming from the death of an Iraqi prisoner who was dragged out of his holding cell by the neck, stripped naked and left outside for seven hours in 2003. Paulus, who commanded a Marine detention camp in Iraq, was dismissed from the service but received no prison time.
- Sgt. 1st Class Tracy Perkins, acquitted of involuntary manslaughter in the alleged drowning of an Iraqi man, but convicted of assault for forcing the man and his cousin into the Tigris River. He was sentenced to six months in prison, reduced in rank and had to forfeit $2,000.
- 1st Lt. Jack Saville, pleaded guilty to assault and other crimes in the same incident as Perkins and was sentenced to 45 days in prison, and had to forfeit $2,000 for six months.
- Pfc. Edward Richmond, convicted of voluntary manslaughter for shooting an Iraqi in the back of the head. He received three years in prison, had to forfeit all pay, and was dishonorably discharged.
- Sgt. Michael P. Williams, convicted of one premeditated murder and unpremeditated murder in the deaths of unarmed civilians during operations near Sadr City. He was sentenced to life in prison and given a reduction in rank and a dishonorable discharge. His sentence was later reduced to 25 years.
- Spc. Brent May, convicted of unpremeditated murder in the same incident as Williams. He was sentenced to five years and dishonorably discharged.
- Chief Warrant Officer Lewis Welshofer of the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, found guilty of negligent homicide and negligent dereliction of duty in the death of Iraqi Maj. Gen. Abed Hamed Mowhoush after interrogation at a detention camp. A military jury ordered a reprimand and forfeiture of $6,000 of his salary, and restricted him to his home, office and church for two months.
Chief Warrant Officer Jefferson L. Williams, Sgt. 1st Class William Sommer and Spc. Jerry Loper were charged with murder and dereliction of duty along with Welshofer. The Army dropped the murder charges against Williams and Loper in exchange for their testimony against Welshofer. The murder charge against Sommer was also dropped. Williams, Sommer and Loper received administrative punishment.
- Jorge Diaz, convicted of murdering an Iraqi man, who Diaz fatally shot while the man's hands were cuffed. Diaz was sentenced to seven years in prison, reduced in rank to private and given a dishonorable discharge.
- Spc. James P. Barker, one of four Fort Campbell soldiers accused in the rape of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and the killing of her and her family, pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 90 years in prison.
- National Guard Sgt. Milton Ortiz Jr. was charged in the shooting death of an unarmed Iraqi man near Ramadi. He was reduced in rank to specialist after pleading guilty to conspiracy to obstruct justice by placing a rifle near a mortally wounded Iraqi, and also threatening and assaulting an Iraqi in an unrelated incident.
- Petty Officer Melson J. Bacos pleaded guilty to kidnapping and conspiracy to kidnap and making false official statements in the shooting death of an Iraqi man in Hamdania. Under his plea deal, Bacos received 12 months in the brig.
- Pfc. John J. Jodka III pleaded guilty to aggravated assault and conspiracy to obstruct justice in the same case as Bacos. Jodka was sentenced to 18 months confinement.
- Lance Cpl. Jerry E. Shumate, Jr. pleaded guilty to aggravated assault and obstruction of justice in the same case as Jodka and Bacos and was sentenced to 21 months.
- Lance Cpl. Tyler A. Jackson pleaded guilty to aggravated assault and obstruction of justice in the same case as Shumate, Jodka and Bacos. Jackson was sentenced to 21 months.
Cleared or acquitted:
- Marine 2nd Lt. Ilario Pantano, cleared of murder charges in the shooting deaths of two Iraqi civilians. Pantano had been accused of riddling the two with bullets and hanging a warning sign on their corpses as a grisly example to insurgents.
- Staff Sgt. Shane Werst, acquitted of premeditated murder in the shooting death of an unarmed Iraqi. Werst said he fired to save a fellow soldier.
- National Guard Spc. Nathan B. Lynn, who was charged along with Sgt. Milton Ortiz, was cleared in the shooting death of an unarmed Iraqi man near Ramadi. He had faced a voluntary manslaughter charge.
Pending cases:
- Sgt. Lawrence G. Hutchins III, Cpls. Marshall L. Magincalda and Trent D. Thomas, and Lance Cpl. Robert B. Pennington, are charged with premeditated murder in the shooting death of an Iraqi man in Hamdania, the same case in which Bacos, Jodka, Shumate and Jackson were charged. In addition to murder, the four remaining defendants are also charged with kidnapping, conspiracy and other offenses.
- Pfc. Corey R. Clagett, Spc. Juston R. Graber, Staff Sgt. Raymond L. Girouard and Spc. William B. Hunsaker are charged with the premeditated murder of three male detainees. Clagett, Girouard and Hunsaker are also charged with obstructing justice for allegedly threatening to kill another soldier who was a witness in the case.
- Sgt. Paul E. Cortez, Pfc. Jesse V. Spielman and Pfc. Bryan L. Howard are accused in the rape of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and the killing of her and her family, the same case in which co-defendant Barker pleaded guilty. The cases of the three men have been referred to courts-martial. A fifth man, accused ringleader former Pvt. Steven Green, 21, has pleaded not guilty to civilian charges including murder and sexual assault.
- Staff Sgt. Cardenas J. Alban, convicted of killing a severely wounded 16-year-old Iraqi during fighting in Baghdad's Sadr City. He was sentenced to one year's confinement, demoted to private and given a bad-conduct discharge.
- Staff Sgt. Johnny Horne Jr., pleaded guilty to unpremeditated murder in the same case as Alban. He was sentenced to three years in prison, had his rank reduced to private, forfeited wages and was given a dishonorable discharge. His prison sentence was later reduced to one year to be consistent with Alban's case.
- Cpl. Dustin Berg of the Indiana National Guard, convicted and sentenced to serve 18 months in prison and a bad-conduct discharge for the shooting death of an Iraqi police officer.
- Spc. Rami Dajani, convicted of involuntary manslaughter (accessory after the fact) and making a false statement following the fatal shooting of an Iraqi translator. He was sentenced to 18 months in confinement, reduced in rank to private and given a bad-conduct discharge.
- Spc. Charley L. Hooser, convicted of involuntary manslaughter in the same case involving Dajani. Hooser was sentenced to three years in prison and given a reduction in rank to private and a bad-conduct discharge.
- Capt. Rogelio "Roger" Maynulet, convicted of assault with intent to commit voluntary manslaughter in the shooting death of a wounded Iraqi. He got no prison time, but was dismissed from the armed forces.
- Pvt. Federico Daniel Merida of the North Carolina National Guard, pleaded guilty to killing a 17-year-old Iraqi soldier after the two had consensual sex. He was sentenced to 25 years in prison, reduced in rank to private and dishonorably discharged. (note the heavy sentence for faggotry - Gomm)
- Marine Maj. Clarke Paulus, convicted of dereliction of duty and maltreatment in a case stemming from the death of an Iraqi prisoner who was dragged out of his holding cell by the neck, stripped naked and left outside for seven hours in 2003. Paulus, who commanded a Marine detention camp in Iraq, was dismissed from the service but received no prison time.
- Sgt. 1st Class Tracy Perkins, acquitted of involuntary manslaughter in the alleged drowning of an Iraqi man, but convicted of assault for forcing the man and his cousin into the Tigris River. He was sentenced to six months in prison, reduced in rank and had to forfeit $2,000.
- 1st Lt. Jack Saville, pleaded guilty to assault and other crimes in the same incident as Perkins and was sentenced to 45 days in prison, and had to forfeit $2,000 for six months.
- Pfc. Edward Richmond, convicted of voluntary manslaughter for shooting an Iraqi in the back of the head. He received three years in prison, had to forfeit all pay, and was dishonorably discharged.
- Sgt. Michael P. Williams, convicted of one premeditated murder and unpremeditated murder in the deaths of unarmed civilians during operations near Sadr City. He was sentenced to life in prison and given a reduction in rank and a dishonorable discharge. His sentence was later reduced to 25 years.
- Spc. Brent May, convicted of unpremeditated murder in the same incident as Williams. He was sentenced to five years and dishonorably discharged.
- Chief Warrant Officer Lewis Welshofer of the 3rd Armored Cavalry Regiment, found guilty of negligent homicide and negligent dereliction of duty in the death of Iraqi Maj. Gen. Abed Hamed Mowhoush after interrogation at a detention camp. A military jury ordered a reprimand and forfeiture of $6,000 of his salary, and restricted him to his home, office and church for two months.
Chief Warrant Officer Jefferson L. Williams, Sgt. 1st Class William Sommer and Spc. Jerry Loper were charged with murder and dereliction of duty along with Welshofer. The Army dropped the murder charges against Williams and Loper in exchange for their testimony against Welshofer. The murder charge against Sommer was also dropped. Williams, Sommer and Loper received administrative punishment.
- Jorge Diaz, convicted of murdering an Iraqi man, who Diaz fatally shot while the man's hands were cuffed. Diaz was sentenced to seven years in prison, reduced in rank to private and given a dishonorable discharge.
- Spc. James P. Barker, one of four Fort Campbell soldiers accused in the rape of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and the killing of her and her family, pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 90 years in prison.
- National Guard Sgt. Milton Ortiz Jr. was charged in the shooting death of an unarmed Iraqi man near Ramadi. He was reduced in rank to specialist after pleading guilty to conspiracy to obstruct justice by placing a rifle near a mortally wounded Iraqi, and also threatening and assaulting an Iraqi in an unrelated incident.
- Petty Officer Melson J. Bacos pleaded guilty to kidnapping and conspiracy to kidnap and making false official statements in the shooting death of an Iraqi man in Hamdania. Under his plea deal, Bacos received 12 months in the brig.
- Pfc. John J. Jodka III pleaded guilty to aggravated assault and conspiracy to obstruct justice in the same case as Bacos. Jodka was sentenced to 18 months confinement.
- Lance Cpl. Jerry E. Shumate, Jr. pleaded guilty to aggravated assault and obstruction of justice in the same case as Jodka and Bacos and was sentenced to 21 months.
- Lance Cpl. Tyler A. Jackson pleaded guilty to aggravated assault and obstruction of justice in the same case as Shumate, Jodka and Bacos. Jackson was sentenced to 21 months.
Cleared or acquitted:
- Marine 2nd Lt. Ilario Pantano, cleared of murder charges in the shooting deaths of two Iraqi civilians. Pantano had been accused of riddling the two with bullets and hanging a warning sign on their corpses as a grisly example to insurgents.
- Staff Sgt. Shane Werst, acquitted of premeditated murder in the shooting death of an unarmed Iraqi. Werst said he fired to save a fellow soldier.
- National Guard Spc. Nathan B. Lynn, who was charged along with Sgt. Milton Ortiz, was cleared in the shooting death of an unarmed Iraqi man near Ramadi. He had faced a voluntary manslaughter charge.
Pending cases:
- Sgt. Lawrence G. Hutchins III, Cpls. Marshall L. Magincalda and Trent D. Thomas, and Lance Cpl. Robert B. Pennington, are charged with premeditated murder in the shooting death of an Iraqi man in Hamdania, the same case in which Bacos, Jodka, Shumate and Jackson were charged. In addition to murder, the four remaining defendants are also charged with kidnapping, conspiracy and other offenses.
- Pfc. Corey R. Clagett, Spc. Juston R. Graber, Staff Sgt. Raymond L. Girouard and Spc. William B. Hunsaker are charged with the premeditated murder of three male detainees. Clagett, Girouard and Hunsaker are also charged with obstructing justice for allegedly threatening to kill another soldier who was a witness in the case.
- Sgt. Paul E. Cortez, Pfc. Jesse V. Spielman and Pfc. Bryan L. Howard are accused in the rape of a 14-year-old Iraqi girl and the killing of her and her family, the same case in which co-defendant Barker pleaded guilty. The cases of the three men have been referred to courts-martial. A fifth man, accused ringleader former Pvt. Steven Green, 21, has pleaded not guilty to civilian charges including murder and sexual assault.
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South Park Creators Trey Parker And Matt Stone Received Signed Saddam Photo From US Marines
Matt Stone and Trey Parker, the creators of the long-running Comedy Central animated series South Park, say that they received a signed photograph of Saddam Hussein from U.S. Marines charged with guarding the Iraqi dictator prior to his 2006 execution. The Marines reportedly made Hussein watch the South Park movie, South Park: Bigger, Longer And Uncut, repeatedly while imprisoned. From the Telegraph:
During his captivity, US marines forced Saddam, who was executed in 2006, to repeatedly watch the movie South Park: Bigger, Longer And Uncut, which shows him as gay, as well as the boyfriend of Satan. He was also regularly depicted in a similar manner during the TV series.
... said: "We're very proud of our signed Saddam picture and what it means. Its one of our biggest highlights.
"I have it on pretty good information from the marines on detail in Iraq that they showed Saddam the movie.
"Over and over again - which is a pretty funny thought. "That's really adding insult to injury."
The show is now on its 13th season and remains a staple item in Comedy Central's lineup.
Matt Stone and Trey Parker, the creators of the long-running Comedy Central animated series South Park, say that they received a signed photograph of Saddam Hussein from U.S. Marines charged with guarding the Iraqi dictator prior to his 2006 execution. The Marines reportedly made Hussein watch the South Park movie, South Park: Bigger, Longer And Uncut, repeatedly while imprisoned. From the Telegraph:
During his captivity, US marines forced Saddam, who was executed in 2006, to repeatedly watch the movie South Park: Bigger, Longer And Uncut, which shows him as gay, as well as the boyfriend of Satan. He was also regularly depicted in a similar manner during the TV series.
... said: "We're very proud of our signed Saddam picture and what it means. Its one of our biggest highlights.
"I have it on pretty good information from the marines on detail in Iraq that they showed Saddam the movie.
"Over and over again - which is a pretty funny thought. "That's really adding insult to injury."
The show is now on its 13th season and remains a staple item in Comedy Central's lineup.
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tpaine posted:iraq became a sociopath's playground and the us military did nothing whatsoever to stop Soldiers from doing anything they wanted
That list of convictions and sentences in the OP is "nothing whatsoever"?
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one year of house arrest for premeditated murder
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people still watch south park
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discipline posted:haha did I tell yall about that time when my friend who did 4 tours was calling iraqis liars who just lie all the time because they're from a culture of liars and so I dropped him to the floor
did everybody stand up and clap?
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In another instance, it was actually a mayor of a town in our AO near Haditha that got shot. Our command showed us pictures from the incident. They had gathered the whole company together, and they were showing pictures of all of this, you know, what everything looked like, and pointed out the — that the reason that they did this was because there was a really nice, tight shot group in the windshield, and he announced to the company that this is what good Marine shooting looks like. And that was the mayor of the town. And it was actually my squad that was, after that, tasked with going to apologize to the family and pay reparations. But it was kind of like, basically, all we did was go there and, you know, give them some money and then leave. You know, “Oh, well” is the way it seemed they wanted us to apologize to them. It was really a joke.
Something else we were actually encouraged to do, almost with a wink and a nudge, was to carry drop weapons or, by my third tour, drop shovels. What that basically is, is we would carry these weapons or shovels with us, because in case we accidentally did shoot a civilian, we could just toss the weapon on the body and make them look like they were an insurgent. Or, you know, like my friend here were saying, we were told by my third tour that if they were carrying a shovel or — you know, and a heavy bag, if they were digging anywhere, especially near roads, that we could shoot them. And so, we actually carried these tools and weapons in our vehicles in case we accidentally shot an innocent civilian, and we could just toss it on them and be like, “Well, he was digging. I was within the rules of engagement.” And this was commonly encouraged, but only behind closed doors. It wasn’t obviously a public announcement that they would make. But, yeah, it was pretty common.
Something else we were actually encouraged to do, almost with a wink and a nudge, was to carry drop weapons or, by my third tour, drop shovels. What that basically is, is we would carry these weapons or shovels with us, because in case we accidentally did shoot a civilian, we could just toss the weapon on the body and make them look like they were an insurgent. Or, you know, like my friend here were saying, we were told by my third tour that if they were carrying a shovel or — you know, and a heavy bag, if they were digging anywhere, especially near roads, that we could shoot them. And so, we actually carried these tools and weapons in our vehicles in case we accidentally shot an innocent civilian, and we could just toss it on them and be like, “Well, he was digging. I was within the rules of engagement.” And this was commonly encouraged, but only behind closed doors. It wasn’t obviously a public announcement that they would make. But, yeah, it was pretty common.
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Republican
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Conservatives
"South Park Republican" was a term that first circulated in blogs and articles on the Internet between the years circa 2001 and 2002, used to describe what some modern commentators describe as a "new wave" or generation of young adults and teenagers who hold center-right political beliefs that are, in general, aligned with those portrayed in the popular American animated television program South Park. The phrase was coined by commentator Andrew Sullivan in 2001.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/South_Park_Conservatives
"South Park Republican" was a term that first circulated in blogs and articles on the Internet between the years circa 2001 and 2002, used to describe what some modern commentators describe as a "new wave" or generation of young adults and teenagers who hold center-right political beliefs that are, in general, aligned with those portrayed in the popular American animated television program South Park. The phrase was coined by commentator Andrew Sullivan in 2001.
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im reading comments sections about the haditha killings, because i hate myself
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one was it's Impossible To Kill People During War, the rebuttal to which was fuck the iraqis, Bring Our Heroes Home. thisother one immediately splintered into an argument on the merits of one dr. ronald paul
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lol i didn't know that Anonymous leaked emails about Haditha. here are some marine corps officers emailing back and forth with their law firm about how best to defile Muslim corpses. im not exaggerating at all
http://pastebin.com/Wvnd4Wcq
http://pastebin.com/Wvnd4Wcq
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Plus, let's focus on the kills and show that we are a superior fighting force, and we are killing their fighters at will.
Don't give the Muslim world and all of the 'tree huggers' ammunition so they can speak negatively of our military and our service members.
Why not/not a photo with the caption: "Marine sniper team inspects Taliban fighters that they'd just killed from 500 meters by single shots to the head".
Don't feed the "propaganda machine".
Feed their FEAR (US military can destroy the enemy with a single shot and the Taliban never knows what hits them or where the shot comes from).
I think there is a good example of what I'm trying to say in the first Gulf War. When the US Air Force pilots strafed the convoy they destroyed all of the Iraqi vehicles. The Press showed the shot-out and burnt-out vehicles with their dead passengers in place 'shot-up' and 'burnt-up'.
To me, that was victorious film footage. It showed how the superior US military destroyed the second rate Iraqi military formation destroying all of their vehicles and killing all of the their soldiers in one 'sortie' (attack).
That was a WIN. That was WAR. That was a VICTORY. No/no one in the Press can change what happened.
I don't think I ever heard any 'fall out' or criticism of the US military concerning that attack.
I don't want to sound like a 'softy', but once upon a time the Press was patriotic, pro-military, and ON OUR SIDE.
You could piss in the Rhine River. You could 'blow up' or 'pull down' a statue of the leader whose country you just 'overran'.
You could take something 'special' from the battlefield that would look good in your team room, your headquarters or your unit's museum.
However, today it appears that all of this good 'fun' and celebration of your victory on the battlefield has now become so 'negative' or 'anti-US military'.
It's all part of that terrible thing called "Political Correctness".
I say, beat them at their game. Do your job, kill the enemy, and focus on your victory and have the Press report the facts.
Don't give them an opening where they could find 'fault' or something 'negative' to feed their anti-military agenda.
As you mentioned, a Navy SEALs successfully completes his mission, does a great job, but someone will focus on him 'giving the enemy a fat lip'. Hell, beat his ass. Just do it where others can't see it happen.
You also know that we have a Congressman who got into hot water over something that he did that benefited his soldiers in Iraq (shooting a round 'next' to the enemy fighter's head to 'scare the shit out of him' and get him to 'spill his guts' and give up valuable information).
It made it to the Press and he took some major heat. I think he was relieved.
Or, there was the Marine who raped a young girl in Okinawa and was sent to the Brig. A senior naval officer at PACOM Headquarters in Honolulu was quoted as saying something like, "that doesn't make sense, why didn't he just go downtown and pay for a hooker".
I think that also got him relieved (for saying something many people may have been thinking).
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Subject: RE: BBC News - US Marines identify 'urination' troops
What in the hell is going on here - since when is it such a big deal when our troops, Marines, piss on a few dead Taliban? These are the same bunch of sorry, goat herdering, AHs who don't wear a uniform, kill and torture their own people, and torture and behead our troops and we're supposed to be shocked and feel sorry because we pissed on the dead SOBs? YGTBSM! We should be cutting off a few heads ourselves while we're at it. Except for keeping a few alive for intell purposes I think we should take any prisoners we capture, line them up against the wall, and shoot the SOBs. They don't want to wear a military uniform with rank and patches that identify them then they should be treated accordingly.
If we had a CinC in the WH with a pair of balls instead of a dipshit, Muslim/Marxist from Kenya we would have turned our troops loose early on to shot, bayonet, behead, bomb, blast with artillery, as many of the SOBs as they could - included going after them in Pakistan, Iran and any other place we could find the bastards. The damn war would have been over years ago. Instead of treating our Marines like criminals we should be passing out medals for killing the enemy.
Gen. Patton made a big deal out of pissing in the Rhine River in the 3rd Army's drive into Nazi Germany. So did Winston Churchill. I wouldn't be surprised if Patton didn't piss on a few dead Germans, too. I'm sure there were dead Germans floating in the river at the time. I'll bet old Chesty Puller pissed on a few dead Japs in the Pacific during WWII. Unless we quit pussyfooting arond with these Afghan Muslim SOBs out to kill us and kill them instead they'll wind up burying us. Put my name on the list for not giving a rat's ass if our troops piss on a few dead Taliban. I say a job well done - keep it up! And for the Marines - Semper Fi troops from an old, Green Beret who did more than piss on a few dead VC and NVA duirng the Vietnam War.
The mission of our military is to close with and destroy or capture the enemy - nothing has changed except the sorry AHs running the country and the military won't let the troops do their jobs anymore. They're more interested in turning the military into a bunch of faggots and lesbians and women who like to act like men and to hell with the mission, good order and discipline. I've lost track of the number of "Kangaroo" courts set up to stab our combat troops in the back - remember the Navy Seals who were brought up on charges for giving a terrorist a fat lip? When is the last time we've ever heard the word "Victory" from the leaders of the country? "Cut and Run" has made a comeback and plans are underway to cut the defense budget and gut the military while we're still fighting a war. What get me most is that the AHs in the WH and Congress are all upset about our troops pissing on a few dead Taliban while they're pissing on the entire military. In case there's anyone out there who disagrees with me I say politely, "Frankly my Dear I don't give a Damn!" To say it bluntly, "Up Yours!"
Col. Jim Miles TXSG Ret.
What in the hell is going on here - since when is it such a big deal when our troops, Marines, piss on a few dead Taliban? These are the same bunch of sorry, goat herdering, AHs who don't wear a uniform, kill and torture their own people, and torture and behead our troops and we're supposed to be shocked and feel sorry because we pissed on the dead SOBs? YGTBSM! We should be cutting off a few heads ourselves while we're at it. Except for keeping a few alive for intell purposes I think we should take any prisoners we capture, line them up against the wall, and shoot the SOBs. They don't want to wear a military uniform with rank and patches that identify them then they should be treated accordingly.
If we had a CinC in the WH with a pair of balls instead of a dipshit, Muslim/Marxist from Kenya we would have turned our troops loose early on to shot, bayonet, behead, bomb, blast with artillery, as many of the SOBs as they could - included going after them in Pakistan, Iran and any other place we could find the bastards. The damn war would have been over years ago. Instead of treating our Marines like criminals we should be passing out medals for killing the enemy.
Gen. Patton made a big deal out of pissing in the Rhine River in the 3rd Army's drive into Nazi Germany. So did Winston Churchill. I wouldn't be surprised if Patton didn't piss on a few dead Germans, too. I'm sure there were dead Germans floating in the river at the time. I'll bet old Chesty Puller pissed on a few dead Japs in the Pacific during WWII. Unless we quit pussyfooting arond with these Afghan Muslim SOBs out to kill us and kill them instead they'll wind up burying us. Put my name on the list for not giving a rat's ass if our troops piss on a few dead Taliban. I say a job well done - keep it up! And for the Marines - Semper Fi troops from an old, Green Beret who did more than piss on a few dead VC and NVA duirng the Vietnam War.
The mission of our military is to close with and destroy or capture the enemy - nothing has changed except the sorry AHs running the country and the military won't let the troops do their jobs anymore. They're more interested in turning the military into a bunch of faggots and lesbians and women who like to act like men and to hell with the mission, good order and discipline. I've lost track of the number of "Kangaroo" courts set up to stab our combat troops in the back - remember the Navy Seals who were brought up on charges for giving a terrorist a fat lip? When is the last time we've ever heard the word "Victory" from the leaders of the country? "Cut and Run" has made a comeback and plans are underway to cut the defense budget and gut the military while we're still fighting a war. What get me most is that the AHs in the WH and Congress are all upset about our troops pissing on a few dead Taliban while they're pissing on the entire military. In case there's anyone out there who disagrees with me I say politely, "Frankly my Dear I don't give a Damn!" To say it bluntly, "Up Yours!"
Col. Jim Miles TXSG Ret.
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t moeny was the dude calling iraqis liars because they don't say 'no' like westerners do?
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For Iraqi females, and children, events involving air attacks and mortar fire were the most dangerous. In air attacks causing civilian deaths, 46% of victims of known gender were female, and 39% of victims of known age were children. Mortar attacks claimed similarly high proportions of victims in these two demographic groups (44% and 42%). By comparison, 11% of victims across all weapons types were Iraqi females, and 9% were children. The authors argue that their findings showing that air attacks (whether involving bombs or missiles) and mortars killed relatively high proportions of females and children is further evidence that these weapons should not be directed at civilian areas by parties to conflict because of their indiscriminate nature. As co-author Professor John Sloboda of Royal Holloway, University of London, who is also a co-founder of IBC, notes, “Our weapon-specific findings have implications for a wide range of conflicts, because the patterns found in this study are likely to be replicated for these weapons whenever they are used.”
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Goethestein
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im reading a SA thread right now about the death of osama bin laden, and its cool because everybody who is all "what about the rule of law" or "i don't think that this is going to serve as a turning point in the war on terror" or "this seems like a straight assassination op, why are we believing the official story from the military after jessica lynch and pat tillman" are getting shrieked down and banned.
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On human shield protestors.
Standish posted:
Nauseating. And these people preach to us about morality? There's a line between opposing the war and aiding a brutal dictator, and these people have crossed it.
Standish posted:
Nauseating. And these people preach to us about morality? There's a line between opposing the war and aiding a brutal dictator, and these people have crossed it.
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Calenth posted:
which would indicate that, yes, there is something that sets these tubes apart from other tubes. You don't have to believe her, but your options here are essentially
1) condoleeza rice is flat out lying
and
2) these tubes are unusual in a way that makes them uniquely well suited for nuclear applications.
I consider #2 more likely than #1, if for no other reason than that if they *were* lying, they would have bothered to dress it up more. The consequences for being caught out in a lie at Rice's level are disastrous.
which would indicate that, yes, there is something that sets these tubes apart from other tubes. You don't have to believe her, but your options here are essentially
1) condoleeza rice is flat out lying
and
2) these tubes are unusual in a way that makes them uniquely well suited for nuclear applications.
I consider #2 more likely than #1, if for no other reason than that if they *were* lying, they would have bothered to dress it up more. The consequences for being caught out in a lie at Rice's level are disastrous.
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