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Not Your S.H.I.E.L.D.
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"ive figured it out. ive finally figured it out. everything people do...every thought, every action, every expression of joy, disgust, contemplation, regret, every turn of the lip or arch of the brow...every gasp...every snort...every belly slap...every birth, every death, the sum total of all human existence...is about........ME!" *crowd erupts in cheers* *curtain slides across background, thousands of disembodied arms and hands enter from out of frame to bestow crowns, scepters, bouquets, jewels, sashes, cakes, multiplicities*
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Mike Nelson here.
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part of me assumes that she's actively harmed the art world through her teaching. like someone paints some brilliant painting and she's like "that doesn't look anything like me" *tears apart canvas of portrait of old man*
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Cycloneboy posted:

Cycloneboy posted:

babyhueypnewton posted:

that's debateable, but why are we even choosing truth over untruth?

lol jesus christ

Seriously, bhpn, how could you ever type this without immediately going "haha, woops," and deleting it? I don't... I don't understand. Are you stupid? Evil? An FBI operative, carefully planting ludicrously stupid, self-destructive ideas in our midst?



you're dumb as shit

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babyhueypnewton posted:

Cycloneboy posted:

Cycloneboy posted:

babyhueypnewton posted:

that's debateable, but why are we even choosing truth over untruth?

lol jesus christ

Seriously, bhpn, how could you ever type this without immediately going "haha, woops," and deleting it? I don't... I don't understand. Are you stupid? Evil? An FBI operative, carefully planting ludicrously stupid, self-destructive ideas in our midst?

you're dumb as shit

You literally do not understand why truth is preferable to untruth, and I'm dumb as shit?

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Can we talk about something interesting, like the relative advantages/disadvantages of state capitalism and anarcho capitalism.
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Cycloneboy posted:

babyhueypnewton posted:

Cycloneboy posted:

Cycloneboy posted:

babyhueypnewton posted:

that's debateable, but why are we even choosing truth over untruth?

lol jesus christ

Seriously, bhpn, how could you ever type this without immediately going "haha, woops," and deleting it? I don't... I don't understand. Are you stupid? Evil? An FBI operative, carefully planting ludicrously stupid, self-destructive ideas in our midst?

you're dumb as shit

You literally do not understand why truth is preferable to untruth, and I'm dumb as shit?



yes, i dont feel like explaining to you the last 100 years of philosophy

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How do you know that's an argument, for all you know philosophy may have been devolving since 95 AH?
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babyhueypnewton posted:

yes, i dont feel like explaining to you the last 100 years of philosophy

Wow, I must have missed the part of modern philosophy where they decided "Truth? Ah, fuck it."

PS: You're an infant in addition to being a dishonest, morally reprehensible, mentally straitjacketed fuck.

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I support identity politics insofar as it works to reveal the clear inferiority of Western culture viz Islamic culture.
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Mike Nelson here.
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"wololo"
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http://brassgoggles.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=27997.0

i'm actually surprised by the quality of discussion. i was expecting a bunch of gibberish, but the compañeros at The Steampunk Forum at Brass Goggles know a thing or two about the history of class struggles.

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Technically a communist shouldn't post from an iphone but they do it all the time.
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Mike Nelson here.
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mustang19 posted:

Technically a communist shouldn't post from an iphone but they do it all the time.

don't boss me around.

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getfiscal posted:

part of me assumes that she's actively harmed the art world through her teaching. like someone paints some brilliant painting and she's like "that doesn't look anything like me" *tears apart canvas of portrait of old man*



She’s clearly suffering and I don’t think human suffering is anything to celebrate or laugh at no matter it’s sources

Terminator 2 was on tv last night and arnie was like “it iss in yo-uh naycha too destroy yoo-urselvz” and it made me sad because that’s all we do from top to bottom, all day every day: and endless cycle of judgement, mockery, formulating distinctions, categorizing people.

Fuck the philosophers and rent-seekers, Rodney king posed the most truthful honest question of the last few decades and everyone laughed at him for it.

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Mike Nelson here.
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

I don’t think human suffering is anything to celebrate or laugh at no matter it’s sources

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If you are dishonest as a matter of policy, it will inevitably come out, and (quite rightly) brew nothing but distrust in you. This really isn't something anyone should have to explain.
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It's a moral lesson immortalized in the famous work, "The Boy Who Cried Wolf."
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Cycloneboy posted:

It's a moral lesson immortalized in the famous work, "The Boy Who Cried Rape."


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Nippon
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

getfiscal posted:

part of me assumes that she's actively harmed the art world through her teaching. like someone paints some brilliant painting and she's like "that doesn't look anything like me" *tears apart canvas of portrait of old man*

She’s clearly suffering and I don’t think human suffering is anything to celebrate or laugh at no matter it’s sources

Terminator 2 was on tv last night and arnie was like “it iss in yo-uh naycha too destroy yoo-urselvz” and it made me sad because that’s all we do from top to bottom, all day every day: and endless cycle of judgement, mockery, formulating distinctions, categorizing people.

Fuck the philosophers and rent-seekers, Rodney king posed the most truthful honest question of the last few decades and everyone laughed at him for it.



there are only three potential responses to human suffering:

1. ignore it. this is the sanest option, chosen instinctively by the vast majority of everyone in the first world, as even so much as noticing it carries no benefit.
2. get indignant about it. this will only bring sadness and poverty to have as about as much effect as getting indignant at the sunrise or the salinity of the sea
3. laugh at it. this option is frankly insane, but it is pleasant, and allows one to acknowledge reality without being dragged down by pointlessly swinging at the shades of its horror

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Cycloneboy posted:

You literally do not understand why truth is preferable to untruth, and I'm dumb as shit?



all things beign equal, truth is preferable to untruth. unfortunately, all things aer not equal

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Superabound posted:

Cycloneboy posted:

You literally do not understand why truth is preferable to untruth, and I'm dumb as shit?

all things beign equal, truth is preferable to untruth. unfortunately, all things aer not equal

"This policy is shit," is not a reason to hide or lie about the arguments in that policy's favor; dishonesty breeds distrust.

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Goethestein posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:
getfiscal posted:
part of me assumes that she's actively harmed the art world through her teaching. like someone paints some brilliant painting and she's like "that doesn't look anything like me" *tears apart canvas of portrait of old man*
She’s clearly suffering and I don’t think human suffering is anything to celebrate or laugh at no matter it’s sources

Terminator 2 was on tv last night and arnie was like “it iss in yo-uh naycha too destroy yoo-urselvz” and it made me sad because that’s all we do from top to bottom, all day every day: and endless cycle of judgement, mockery, formulating distinctions, categorizing people.

Fuck the philosophers and rent-seekers, Rodney king posed the most truthful honest question of the last few decades and everyone laughed at him for it.


there are only three potential responses to human suffering:

1. ignore it. this is the sanest option, chosen instinctively by the vast majority of everyone in the first world, as even so much as noticing it carries no benefit.
2. get indignant about it. this will only bring sadness and poverty to have as about as much effect as getting indignant at the sunrise or the salinity of the sea
3. laugh at it. this option is frankly insane, but it is pleasant, and allows one to acknowledge reality without being dragged down by pointlessly swinging at the shades of its horror




ok Goatstein thanks for the tips, i guess i just need to laugh more at suffering and perhaps I can be as happy as you.

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Cycloneboy posted:

"This policy is shit," is not a reason to hide or lie about the arguments in that policy's favor; dishonesty breeds distrust.



not all untruth is dishonest. ever heard of satire? the absurd? thousands of other beautiful, untruthful things which enrich human existence here, at the upper end of the autism spectrum?

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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

ok Goatstein thanks for the tips, i guess i just need to laugh more at suffering and perhaps I can be as happy as you.



#187
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what is Triangulation, but the arrival at a singular Truth through the confluence of multiple Untruths?
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Superabound posted:

Cycloneboy posted:

"This policy is shit," is not a reason to hide or lie about the arguments in that policy's favor; dishonesty breeds distrust.

not all untruth is dishonest. ever heard of satire? the absurd? thousands of other beautiful, untruthful things which enrich human existence here, at the upper end of the autism spectrum?

Untruth that is honest is understood to be untruth by the listener; this is obviously not what bhpn was talking about.

#189
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No matter how hard you philosophize you will never defeat me! I, the rational teen!
#190
Poronto
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how come meth or coke or heroin makes you a cool sexy rebel while Hostess pies are an "illness" though. that's not very materialist
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babyhueypnewton posted:

not to say feminism, anti-racism, etc are not already a part of marxism, marx and Engels talk about them all the time despite slander from post-modern liberals. I just fail to see anything worth learning from the entire new left emphasis on race, gender, and various non-class oppressions if we're serious about creating a new society and not feeling ourselves to be "more correct". let alone antagonisms that aren't class aren't even capable of creating anything new, they are purely negative dialectic concepts.


your an idiot

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blinkandwheeze posted:

babyhueypnewton posted:

not to say feminism, anti-racism, etc are not already a part of marxism, marx and Engels talk about them all the time despite slander from post-modern liberals. I just fail to see anything worth learning from the entire new left emphasis on race, gender, and various non-class oppressions if we're serious about creating a new society and not feeling ourselves to be "more correct". let alone antagonisms that aren't class aren't even capable of creating anything new, they are purely negative dialectic concepts.

your an idiot



care to expand?

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boy do i loathe regina spektor's music
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Identity politics sounds cool. A supportive community and sense of solidarity. Friendships forged in a battle against all interconnected forms of oppression.

It's jsut too bad that they insideously killed the left. rip
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Here's a music video of Regina Spektor literally surrounded by black children, mostly womyn, even Rhizzone can understand the profound message for social change.

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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

boy do i loathe regina spektor's music



boo on dis for real doe

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babyhueypnewton posted:

blinkandwheeze posted:

babyhueypnewton posted:

not to say feminism, anti-racism, etc are not already a part of marxism, marx and Engels talk about them all the time despite slander from post-modern liberals. I just fail to see anything worth learning from the entire new left emphasis on race, gender, and various non-class oppressions if we're serious about creating a new society and not feeling ourselves to be "more correct". let alone antagonisms that aren't class aren't even capable of creating anything new, they are purely negative dialectic concepts.

your an idiot

care to expand?

He probably doesn't feel like explaining the last 100 years of philosophy to you.

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corey "of "fail aids" fame"
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me (cool and hansome and havent wet the bed in YEARS): oh hai guys whats goin on in this thread
thuglesson (probably wears glasses irl): eful to look at it historically and how theories of intersectionality emerged out of the activist and theoretical struggles of various emancipatory movements in the 1970s and 80s. it was never really intended to be a predictive, explanatory model but rather a conceptual framework for resolving the problems of cohesion that feminism, socialism, black activism, lgbt etc. faced in the west. in other words it's more practical than theoretical and it's not really fair to judge it as such, the same way you wouldn't judge Capital by the standards of na blah blah blah
me (im wearin sunglasses): ...are you f'ing kidding me?