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ilmdge posted:

Granted everything Trump says could be bullshit so we'll have to see.

at least some of what he says sure is, he's totally contradictory on Syria/Russia and Iran (didn't maybe you point that out yourself a little bit back?). no way that contradiction resolves itself on the side of peace and sanity

edit: i also don't think hildog's bloodless functionaries were going to start a war with russia. since i regrettably remain a liberal, i actually think i think the parties make more difference than most of the people here do, but when it comes to the only genuine military threat to american soil in the world i'm sure it all comes out the same

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babyhueypnewton posted:

The new thing is Jill Stein is crowd sourcing recounts in 3 states because of possible voting irregularities. The claim is that Russia hacked the election and I guess we'll find out Hillary actually won the white working class. This is based on absolutely no evidence and no evidence has ever been provided showing that any of the hacks during the election involved the Russian government.

I dunno how caught up ppl are in the trump=fascist hysteria but the liberal cold war against Russia is the real danger imo. Any possibility of liberals radicalizing is long gone, they are gearing up to finally become the party of neoliberal imperialist consensus at the grassroots level.

For the first few days after the election the anti-Russia messaging subsided imo; now its coming back strongly.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/russian-propaganda-effort-helped-spread-fake-news-during-election-experts-say/2016/11/24/793903b6-8a40-4ca9-b712-716af66098fe_story.html

Also hearing people say Jill Stein is a Russian patsy because she appeared on RT a couple times. Her fundraising for a recount is apparently to undermine american belief in their own political process. American belief in their elections that Russia supposedly stole? Russia undermining belief in their own manchurian candidate? People are becoming schizophrenic over this whole thing.

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“They use our technologies and values against us to sow doubt,” said Robert Orttung, a GWU professor who studies Russia. “It’s starting to undermine our democratic system.”



“For them, it’s actually a real war, an ideological war, this clash between two systems,” said Sufian Zhemukhov, a former Russian journalist conducting research at GWU. “In their minds, they’re just trying to do what the West does to Russia.”



They HATE our FREEDOM.

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hi
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http://www.propornot.com/p/the-list.html
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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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i was really hoping that hillary's humiliating loss would be the end of this russian conspiracy nonsense but no such luck
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le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

i was really hoping that hillary's humiliating loss would be the end of this russian conspiracy nonsense but no such luck

The democrats are the warhawks now, and since they don't hold any offices, they can do even crazier shit without consequence to their leadership

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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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reading Normies talk about politics is like i'm peering through my screen into another dimension. "the party of Reagan who won the Cold War just surrendered to Stalin's last KGB agent. " hahahaha
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wowie zowie!!!!
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babyhueypnewton posted:

The new thing is Jill Stein is crowd sourcing recounts in 3 states because of possible voting irregularities. The claim is that Russia hacked the election and I guess we'll find out Hillary actually won the white working class. This is based on absolutely no evidence and no evidence has ever been provided showing that any of the hacks during the election involved the Russian government.

I dunno how caught up ppl are in the trump=fascist hysteria but the liberal cold war against Russia is the real danger imo. Any possibility of liberals radicalizing is long gone, they are gearing up to finally become the party of neoliberal imperialist consensus at the grassroots level.



She discovered that, paradoxically, the final solution to the 2016 Election problem is to extend it indefinitely

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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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lol

https://forums.somethingawful.com/showthread.php?threadid=3799171

I decided to make this thread so that fellow C-SPAM members would have the tools necessary to deal with the kind of people that everyone knows: The deplorables.

I'm gonna first preface this by I am going to disclose is not meant for ALL Trump voters, but specifically the kind of deplorables who treat talk radio as gospel, constantly hate on all kinds of minorities, and when confronted with Facts will almost always rely on conspiracy theories about supposedly rigged against them. This is NOT a method to be used for those who may be ignorant or misinformed but truly are open to learning new information.

Others posting in in this this method is not a method for the sole purpose of getting deplorables to shut the fuck up about their bigoted views so that you can at least some enjoy a decent meal. This thread are certainly welcome to post their own methods.

So with that disclaimer brought up, I will now explain what I call the Nuclear Political Discussion Option:

I am trying to reason and empathize with the other side and it often can not help but other times it can be to a detriment.

So instead of dealing with deplorables with empathy and reasoning, my method is about making deplorables feel like shit.

Now I will not have the impact of you go giving the deplorable or deplorables warnings that you hold it back a nastiness and if they do not back back they will feel that that verbal wrath. Once you are actually starting the method, you basically talk to them in ways that prove that political correctness is not just a one way road.

The following are examples of phrases that are part of this tactic:

- "Dumbass conspiracy theories" "here we go again with the dumbass conspiracy theories" "since since you rely on dumbass conspiracy theories so much are you gonna next tell me about UFOs"

- "man you seem really TRIGGERED by black and brown people" "do you need a safe space from all the Muslims you fucking pussy?" "America is not your safe space from minorities you fucking dipshit"

- "oh here we go again with Benghazi. Are you gonna cry like that bitch Pattt Smith?"

- "Oh I'm sorry I can not hear you when you have a trump's dick in your mouth"

- "You sound like a fucking wuss if you can not handle a black guy taking a seat during the anthem."

- "Here let me pour one out for those POOR OL 'PERSECUTED CONSERVATIVES" (then literally pour your drink onto the floor mockingly)

- calling them "white trash" or otherwise bringing up the fact that they are white in insensitive ways. "Man you are whiter than my pair of New Balance" "well of course you think that, you're fucking white" "no, The sheep are Trump supporters; you can tell because they are white "

- When they call out your insensitivity, respond with "No I am just being politically incorrect, you fucking dumb hypocrite."

- Constantly ending your sentences with "dumbass", "dipshit", "fucking idiot", and similar insults. These are little stings that will get under their skin.

- Bringing up anything personal about them in an insulting way that would have political context.

And that's just off the top of my head. If people want I can post more more.

Frequently / Inevitably Asked Questions:

1) This sounds like you are saying to be an asshole?

- Yes that is the point. Deplorables are used to having liberals trying to reason with them, so pushing back hard will throw them off so they will not be used to such visceral language coming from the liberal side.

2) What if the deplorable or deplorables get physically violent?

- Always be prepared to defend yourself in any situation anyway. I'm not going to post what is okay for all 50 states, but I encourage that before thanksgiving you look up how you are legally allowed to defend yourself.

3) Why should I do this this it seems like it will never actually change their viewpoints?

- This Nuclear Option is not meant to change their viewpoints. It is meant to make the opposition feel uncomfortable openly speaking their bigotry.

4) Have you actually tried this method?

- Yes, both on social media and in real works. Incredibly well, mainly because, as I said, it's not something that deplorables are used to hearing from liberals.

5) I noticed your examples have a lot of swearing and insults. Is that on purpose?

- Yes it is on purpose. It's a deplorable feel uncomfortable speaking politics around you.

6) Why are you making this thread in the first place?

- I have been with posted posts of de foreorables, so I figured I should make a thread so that they have some important tools to help make more thanksgiving a more Enjoyable meal.

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You got trolled bud.
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I copy pasted that from NeoGAF
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Also the line calling vilerat's mom a bitch wasn't added by me.
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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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wtF
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le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

wtF



owned

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"Jpg." - Hank Hill
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Guyovich posted:

le_nelson_mandela_face posted:

wtF

owned



i'm not owned! i'm not owned!!

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glomper_stomper posted:


god damn i want a bucket of bibles right now. 12 servings of bibles. love bibles. love buckets. i'm on board. who the fuck do i call to get my bible bucket

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20 year shelf-life fiesta bucket. my dream has come true. its a miracle
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glomper_stomper posted:



Her lips were red, her looks were free,
Her locks were yellow as gold:
Her skin was as white as leprosy,
The Night-mare LIFE-IN-DEATH was she,
Who thicks man's blood with cold.

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Trump baseball caps are dope in a very real way. Classic snapback, bright red, tacky in a fun way, simple but compelling slogan. Communists wish they could make something as good & interesting as a trump hat.
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Yeah that's pretty stupid. I guess communists should just keep doing whatever they've been doing, it seems like it's working.
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Alright. I accept this.
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Goon project: Rhizzone hats! What type (model? I dunno hat nomenclature) of hat should it be? What catchy slogan will entice passersby to embrace communism? Amazing synergy with the cafe and podcast.
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You have been blocked from liking this user's Tweets at their request.

what the heck.
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Kurdt
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roseweird posted:

no matter how pigshit america is it exists

true

and appealing to sadbrain america selfhate

who is proposing this?

is just going to cultivate a bunch of wordy donothings who can never win the respect of either america's unskilled working poor nor the ear of its skilled labor aristocrats nor the intensely exploited international working class.

sure I guess

and since modern american imperialism is premised on the parasitic acquisition of manufactured exports without producing the real material for genuine fair exchange,

you mean the modern world-system

it is actually necessary to remedy this by working to make america good, just, and productive in meaningful material terms,

does not follow from premise

instead of not-really-joking about jdpon-led white genocide, which is a lame retreat into fantasy.

bwuh?

unless american communists can genuinely appeal to the capacity of america for worthwhile productive labor, inventiveness, self-sufficiency, and real value,

nah

they will not produce any propaganda better than a trump baseball cap.

America is Not Great Because America Is Not Good

anyway i'm real tired maybe i'm not articulating this real well but i guess i'm saying let's make america great rhizzone

lets oppose the modern world-system

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Aspie_Muslim_Economist_ posted:

Goon project: Rhizzone hats! What type (model? I dunno hat nomenclature) of hat should it be? What catchy slogan will entice passersby to embrace communism? Amazing synergy with the cafe and podcast.


this is a pretty cool hat

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did someones dad get owned itt?
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roseweird posted:

no matter how pigshit america is it exists and appealing to sadbrain america selfhate is just going to cultivate a bunch of wordy donothings who can never win the respect of either america's unskilled working poor nor the ear of its skilled labor aristocrats nor the intensely exploited international working class. and since modern american imperialism is premised on the parasitic acquisition of manufactured exports without producing the real material for genuine fair exchange, it is actually necessary to remedy this by working to make america good, just, and productive in meaningful material terms, instead of not-really-joking about jdpon-led white genocide, which is a lame retreat into fantasy. unless american communists can genuinely appeal to the capacity of america for worthwhile productive labor, inventiveness, self-sufficiency, and real value, they will not produce any propaganda better than a trump baseball cap. anyway i'm real tired maybe i'm not articulating this real well but i guess i'm saying let's make america great rhizzone. thanks seeya



you cant just take the settler colonialist mythos and slap a socialisty spin on it

the groups that have had the greatest level of engagement with the working poor and the radicalized labor aristocracy post-ww2 have been those that have explicitly challenged that narrative as reactionary garbage.

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edit: i was rude

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