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tardy on these heaters
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decentralized communitarian federalism ftw. ron paul 2012
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lol i was just posting it as an example because a lot of leftists seem to take the panther idea as their jumping off point
#83
Mike Nelson here.
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let's have neighbourhood control over global warming. get all the neighbours down here and come up with a global plan to monitor and restrict greenhouse gas emissions. direct democracy for the win.
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tardy on these heaters
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community policing is pretty mainstream criminal justice theory nowadays
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state control of police, or, as we like to call it, corruption
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getfiscal posted:

let's have neighbourhood control over global warming. get all the neighbours down here and come up with a global plan to monitor and restrict greenhouse gas emissions. direct democracy for the win.



the outgoing leader of the Greens here advocated global government the other day, it was pretty funny.

It would apparently involve a Senate with 1 or 2 people from each country and a House of Reps based proportionally on population. He seemed to think this was pretty progressive but considering he is a Gay Man i would be more wary of wanting to give that power to a population that hates everything you stand for

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Mike Nelson here.
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

the outgoing leader of the Greens here advocated global government the other day, it was pretty funny.

It would apparently involve a Senate with 1 or 2 people from each country and a House of Reps based proportionally on population. He seemed to think this was pretty progressive but considering he is a Gay Man i would be more wary of wanting to give that power to a population that hates everything you stand for

gay men want to be persecuted. that's why they are gay, it's a vanity thing. i bet that the average gay man votes against gay marriage because they want to be special and cool. but, facts are, they are just losers with cher cds.

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getfiscal posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

the outgoing leader of the Greens here advocated global government the other day, it was pretty funny.

It would apparently involve a Senate with 1 or 2 people from each country and a House of Reps based proportionally on population. He seemed to think this was pretty progressive but considering he is a Gay Man i would be more wary of wanting to give that power to a population that hates everything you stand for

gay men want to be persecuted. that's why they are gay, it's a vanity thing. i bet that the average gay man votes against gay marriage because they want to be special and cool. but, facts are, they are just losers with cher cds.



correlation is not causation

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man oh man i sure hate cops because of their random brutality, bureaucratic ass-covering, petty tyranny and racism *constantly defends US soldiers*
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Mike Nelson here.
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Goethestein posted:

man oh man i sure hate cops because of their random brutality, bureaucratic ass-covering, petty tyranny and racism *constantly defends US soldiers*

who could that possibly refer to on our little corner of star's hollow

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i touched my wiener.

NAUGHTY!

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Goethestein posted:

man oh man i sure hate cops because of their random brutality, bureaucratic ass-covering, petty tyranny and racism *constantly defends US soldiers*


support our boiz


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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

Petrol posted:

become a cop.you dont need to be quick witted or well educated and you sure as heck dont need to be sympathetic towards others. we'll give you sensitivity training but thats just so we got our asses covered when you beat mentally ill colored minors to death on the reg. and the weapons..!

I understand the anger against cops but remember that as well as beating minorities they also, for instance, keep our roads safe by cracking down on drunk or dangerous drivers. A highway patrol officer has probably arrived at dozens of wrecks and seen more human suffering then you ever will hiding behind a computer screen.


if i accept the premise that cops do good things that are important to society, why does that mean that i shouldnt be angry at the fact that shocking abuses of power are so common?

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Nippon
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jon stewart just said a lot of mean things about communism 2nite
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Petrol posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

Petrol posted:

become a cop.you dont need to be quick witted or well educated and you sure as heck dont need to be sympathetic towards others. we'll give you sensitivity training but thats just so we got our asses covered when you beat mentally ill colored minors to death on the reg. and the weapons..!

I understand the anger against cops but remember that as well as beating minorities they also, for instance, keep our roads safe by cracking down on drunk or dangerous drivers. A highway patrol officer has probably arrived at dozens of wrecks and seen more human suffering then you ever will hiding behind a computer screen.

if i accept the premise that cops do good things that are important to society, why does that mean that i shouldnt be angry at the fact that shocking abuses of power are so common?



Because you extend your anger to all cops regardless of what they've done.

It's like if I were to hate all blacks because a black guy beat me up once.

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discipline posted:

TROT_CUMLOVER posted:

here's your feel-good post of the day:

haha yeah I don't feel-good that ol johnny here is gonna get 25-life for attempted murder of a cop



what

is this for real

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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

Petrol posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

Petrol posted:

become a cop.you dont need to be quick witted or well educated and you sure as heck dont need to be sympathetic towards others. we'll give you sensitivity training but thats just so we got our asses covered when you beat mentally ill colored minors to death on the reg. and the weapons..!

I understand the anger against cops but remember that as well as beating minorities they also, for instance, keep our roads safe by cracking down on drunk or dangerous drivers. A highway patrol officer has probably arrived at dozens of wrecks and seen more human suffering then you ever will hiding behind a computer screen.

if i accept the premise that cops do good things that are important to society, why does that mean that i shouldnt be angry at the fact that shocking abuses of power are so common?

Because you extend your anger to all cops regardless of what they've done.

It's like if I were to hate all blacks because a black guy beat me up once.


in so far as cops are a literal manifestation of society's violence towards its least powerful members, yes, i hate all cops.

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Goethestein posted:

jon stewart just said a lot of mean things about communism 2nite



Fucked up if true

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Petrol posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

Petrol posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

Petrol posted:

become a cop.you dont need to be quick witted or well educated and you sure as heck dont need to be sympathetic towards others. we'll give you sensitivity training but thats just so we got our asses covered when you beat mentally ill colored minors to death on the reg. and the weapons..!

I understand the anger against cops but remember that as well as beating minorities they also, for instance, keep our roads safe by cracking down on drunk or dangerous drivers. A highway patrol officer has probably arrived at dozens of wrecks and seen more human suffering then you ever will hiding behind a computer screen.

if i accept the premise that cops do good things that are important to society, why does that mean that i shouldnt be angry at the fact that shocking abuses of power are so common?

Because you extend your anger to all cops regardless of what they've done.

It's like if I were to hate all blacks because a black guy beat me up once.

in so far as cops are a literal manifestation of society's violence towards its least powerful members, yes, i hate all cops.



they are also human beings as well as a "literal manifestation of society's violence"

you need to stop reading so many books, it will rot your brain if you think of everyone in terms of political theory

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Mike Nelson here.
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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

you need to stop reading so many books, it will rot your brain if you think of everyone in terms of political theory

learn from me, so that one day your sig shall not be filled with liberal socialists, your belly filled with spiced meats, your heart filled with sorrow and cholestorol, and your brain filled with crazy.

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Ironicwarcriminal posted:

Petrol posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

Petrol posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

Petrol posted:

become a cop.you dont need to be quick witted or well educated and you sure as heck dont need to be sympathetic towards others. we'll give you sensitivity training but thats just so we got our asses covered when you beat mentally ill colored minors to death on the reg. and the weapons..!

I understand the anger against cops but remember that as well as beating minorities they also, for instance, keep our roads safe by cracking down on drunk or dangerous drivers. A highway patrol officer has probably arrived at dozens of wrecks and seen more human suffering then you ever will hiding behind a computer screen.

if i accept the premise that cops do good things that are important to society, why does that mean that i shouldnt be angry at the fact that shocking abuses of power are so common?

Because you extend your anger to all cops regardless of what they've done.

It's like if I were to hate all blacks because a black guy beat me up once.

in so far as cops are a literal manifestation of society's violence towards its least powerful members, yes, i hate all cops.

they are also human beings as well as a "literal manifestation of society's violence"

you need to stop reading so many books, it will rot your brain if you think of everyone in terms of political theory


haha yes because whenever i meet an off-duty cop irl i lecture them about what they symbolise

it's pretty easy to hate cops-as-cops without hating cops-as-people

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Petrol posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

Petrol posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

Petrol posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

Petrol posted:

become a cop.you dont need to be quick witted or well educated and you sure as heck dont need to be sympathetic towards others. we'll give you sensitivity training but thats just so we got our asses covered when you beat mentally ill colored minors to death on the reg. and the weapons..!

I understand the anger against cops but remember that as well as beating minorities they also, for instance, keep our roads safe by cracking down on drunk or dangerous drivers. A highway patrol officer has probably arrived at dozens of wrecks and seen more human suffering then you ever will hiding behind a computer screen.

if i accept the premise that cops do good things that are important to society, why does that mean that i shouldnt be angry at the fact that shocking abuses of power are so common?

Because you extend your anger to all cops regardless of what they've done.

It's like if I were to hate all blacks because a black guy beat me up once.

in so far as cops are a literal manifestation of society's violence towards its least powerful members, yes, i hate all cops.

they are also human beings as well as a "literal manifestation of society's violence"

you need to stop reading so many books, it will rot your brain if you think of everyone in terms of political theory

it's pretty easy to hate cops-as-cops without hating cops-as-people



Same but with Hitler and rapists.

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aGreed is Good
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its wrong to hate cops because u cant choose not to be a cop
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Groulxsmith posted:

marxists hate class-based analysis when it's inconvenient, this is about as insightful as reading "nigfacts" on TNE



"poors are savages who beat their wives": the sad truth about class that marxists just can't accept

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from article abt Pier Paolo Pasolini:

These differences became more overt and came to a head at the time of the May events in 1968. In the violent clashes that occurred at this time, Pasolini was very sceptical of the motives of the student movement, distrusting its class composition and perceived hedonism. He wrote a poem for L’Espresso which took the side of the police, whom he saw as poor southerners, sent to work for the state in order to escape the poverty of the south. He felt that the students should fight the legal and political system, not the sons of the poor. This brought him into major conflict with the left and he was physically attacked when speaking in Venice.

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cops are obviously a good idea in theory, i aint care what those mean ol' anarchists say, the problem is that police in practice, like all careers, recruit from as-yet-unmade people with no life experiences, and therefore have no effective selection criteria beyond 'can beat people up/wants to beat people up/is capable of disguising wanting to beat people up'

of course thats the whole idea, you dont want cops with lives and roots in society because they might become human and thus ineffective, which is why we pour scorn on PCSOs etc
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Lessons posted:

Groulxsmith posted:

marxists hate class-based analysis when it's inconvenient, this is about as insightful as reading "nigfacts" on TNE

"poors are savages who beat their wives": the sad truth about class that marxists just can't accept

marxists HATE her! american mom discovers 1 weird tip about the lumpenproletariat

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they're just kind of like the modern day lowly knights of our age, keeping the peace on the manners, making sure things don't get out of hand, but always stern and eager to show the peasants They Mean Business.
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drivel of drunken hags
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Lessons posted:

Groulxsmith posted:

marxists hate class-based analysis when it's inconvenient, this is about as insightful as reading "nigfacts" on TNE

"poors are savages who beat their wives": the sad truth about class that marxists just can't accept


That's being a bit obtuse. Nobody here would uncritically accept similar statistics without contextualizing, or at least questioning to what extent other factors make it the case. The response to numbers like this for just about any other profession, much less any other economic group (imagine doing this by race) would certainly not be that a group is inherently and irreconcilably bad

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there is no demographic in the united states, by either income or race, that exceeds those self-reported abuse numbers. is that sufficient context?
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with good reason, you'd never draw that conclusion from similar numbers that would indicate blacks commit more crimes than whites
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correct. on the other hand, if police officers committed more crimes than the general public by a margin greater than any other demographic in the united states, i would in fact draw some fairly negative conclusions about american law enforcement.
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i also will not belieb that cops commit a significant number of crimes unless the statistics produced by the judicial system indicate this.
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um, no, cops own. let's encourage people with a violence fetish to act out their rage-fueled fantasies by giving them a gun and permission to use it indiscriminately. that's good.
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TROT_CUMLOVER posted:

:dance:

  • Domestic violence is 2 to 4 times more common in police families than in the general population. In two separate studies, 40% of police officers self-report that they have used violence against their domestic partners within the last year. In the general population, it's estimated that domestic violence occurs in about 10% of families.
  • In a nationwide survey of 123 police departments, 45% had no specific policy for dealing with officer-involved domestic violence.
  • In that same survey, the most common discipline imposed for a sustained allegation of domestic violence was counseling. Only 19% of departments indicated that officers would be terminated after a second sustained allegation of domestic violence.
  • In San Diego, a national model in domestic violence prosecution, the City Attorney typically prosecutes 92% of referred domestic violence cases, but only 42% of cases where the batterer is a cop.

:dance:

one of my gfs sisters, the lesbian one, is a cop in montana and one day my gf said 'yeah, she was always beating all of us up when we were kids' now she directs traffic, sips microbrews and hangs out with people who smoke weed... but.... The Beast Merely Slumbers

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thirdplace posted:

every working class person i've ever known


Nice troll

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heh i might be a white cismale law student but that's the one event of the oppression olympics i'm actually pretty competitive in thank you very much
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my qualifications? I know all the words to "common people" by william shatner. here are my thoughts on class warfare: