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In the gun world, different types of shooters favor particular types of firearms. The same general principle applies to cyclists. Given the wide variety of riders and bicycles, there’s no simple solution for bicycle carry. A pistol-packing cyclist must balance ease of access against retention, consider concealment vs. caliber, and calculate gun size in relation to weight. In some states, open carry makes bicycle carry a relatively easy proposition. Until it doesn’t. So I’ve been investigating concealed bicycle carry. Here are the four basic types of cycling and my recommendations for each . . .

1. Casual/recreational riders

Casual/recreational cyclists ride slowly on paved pathways for short times and distances. They wear pretty much the same clothes they’d wear while walking. They’re the cycling equivalent of people who go to the range once in a blue moon.

The simple advice for these cyclists: carry on as per normal. If a CCW system works when you stroll it’ll work when you bike.

Saying that, “naked” pocket carry can be problematic; a small gun can work its way up your pocket while riding, fall and then skitter on the pavement. Also, it’s damn near impossible to pull a gun from your pocket while riding. Yes, while riding. Think escape and evade.

While an inside-the-waistband (IWB) holster is a lot more useful and discreet, many CCW licensees (especially OFWGs) have trouble sitting comfortably wearing an IWB holster. That may be doubly true when bicycling. Obviously, the further around your body you position your IWB holster the more comfortable it’s likely to be on a bike.

An outside-the-waistband (OWB) holster with a baggy shirt can be an ideal bicycle carry set-up: comfortable, accessible and discreet. If you go for OWB, make sure the gun is completely secure in the holster. There’s no jolt quite like hitting a pothole at speed. Also, bicycles crash, sometime spectacularly. Best to “wake up” with your gun on your person.

At the same time, the gun shouldn’t be too tight in the holster, lest you struggle to remove it when you needed. Retention systems can be particularly tricky to operate on the move.

Practice (a.k.a. “situational familiarity) is the key. Unload and safety check your weapon in a discreet location. Then draw and shoot on the move. You’ll soon see that one-handed shooting practice a priority for anyone who chooses bicycle carry.

2. Commuter/transportation riders

These riders are experienced and fit. They wear anything from work clothes (including suits) to lycra. They’re like the shooters who go to the range on a regular basis with high-end, well-maintained firepower.

If you bicycle in your normal clothes, carry on as above. If you wear lycra/jersey, you’re best off carrying in a pack. There are a number of excellent solutions, like the Drop Leg Motorcycle Scooter ATV Enduro Dirt Pit Bike Cycling Fanny Pack Waist Belt Bag above.

Road racers/road race wannabes

Think Tour de France and Lance Armstrong: riders wearing brightly colored, tight-fitting garments atop bikes that weigh as much a toothpick. Road racers are like shooters who compete on a regular basis with hugely expensive, extensively modified “race guns.”

Hard-core cyclists typically pay $1 per gram of weight lost on a bike. A “real” roadie would no more add 1000 grams of gun/holster than jump on a Schwinn Hollywood. If road racers are about security, they usually count on their mount’s speed and stealth to avoid or escape a lethal threat. After that, it’s pepper spray, useful for both dogs and two-legged predators.

If road racers carry, they pack the smallest, lightest and let’s face it sexiest gun available. The biggest issue they fail to consider: sweat. Depending on a rider’s chemistry, sweat can be almost as corrosive as battery acid. Polymer guns are a godsend, but they must be maintained and tested religiously.

For OWB, a road racer’s well advised to use a nylon belt (e.g. the Wilderness Frequent Flyer), a Kydex holster and, again, a plastic corrosion resistant gun. Fanny pack? You’re kidding, right?

Mountain bikers

Given the forces involved, a fanny pack is the ideal solution for mountain bike carry. It offers easy access to hydration and armed self-defense. There are a lot of choices, including packs made for the job. But it really is a case of try before you buy.

Your gun should fit the pack perfectly: tight but not too tight. Ideally, it should be a pack you can open with one hand while riding (see: fumbling above) and have a separate compartment so that you don’t struggle to draw when push comes to shove.

While a fanny pack enables a larger gun, remember that the more weight you carry in the pack, the more likely it is that the pack will bounce around. Strapping it down might solve one problem while creating another.

If you don’t carry a fanny pack, a gun belt under a jersey with an OWB holster will git ‘er done. I carry a Glock 17 in this manner with no difficulty at all, and it’s pretty comfortable. Bike cops carry on a belt all day long. Although they can do so without getting pulled over . . .

Bicycling is a terrific way to stay in shape. Staying in shape is a terrific way to stay alive, both in terms of staving-off obesity-related conditions and having the strength and endurance to survive a gunfight. Both on and off your bike.
#164
u cant dance on a bike wiht a gun
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n/m
#166
i dontn know why thats didntn work. ima try again



the whole album is awesome but esp. this song + the modern dance + chinese radiation + laughing + street waves
#167
someone signed into youtube on my stuff and now everything looks weird
#168
chavez is dying and berlusconi is making a comeback
#169
pere ubu are alright but everythign theyve ever written down is like a parody of debord, which is what you might expect from a band named after ubu roi... only godspeed/silver mt zion are worse at this, there was a nod to the freakeing lettrist international on one of their EPs
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deadken posted:

when i was in america i told people i was a marxist-leninist and they were like 'yeah thats cool lets get some coke.' except sometimes they agreed with most of the stuff i said and then continued supporting obama because romney wants to ban their uterus or whatever. who are these dance people lol



left-ish americans post about it on the internet and then spend all the rest of their time with people they call friends who literally support carpet-nuking the rest of the world and destroying every last motherfucker between them and total financial victory. my friends all vote republican!!! no they're really my friends. i get along with them so well!!11

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drwhat posted:

carpet-nuking the rest of the world



that would actually be a good thing if israel was included

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lol having friends
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drwhat posted:

deadken posted:

when i was in america i told people i was a marxist-leninist and they were like 'yeah thats cool lets get some coke.' except sometimes they agreed with most of the stuff i said and then continued supporting obama because romney wants to ban their uterus or whatever. who are these dance people lol

left-ish americans post about it on the internet and then spend all the rest of their time with people they call friends who literally support carpet-nuking the rest of the world and destroying every last motherfucker between them and total financial victory. my friends all vote republican!!! no they're really my friends. i get along with them so well!!11



lol not humanities students at big west coast universities, it was basically them that made me support romney

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deadken posted:

when i was in america i told people i was a marxist-leninist and they were like 'yeah thats cool lets get some coke.' except sometimes they agreed with most of the stuff i said and then continued supporting obama because romney wants to ban their uterus or whatever. who are these dance people lol



this has happened to me so many times! ive tried my best to convince them to drop their support of obama and instead vote for the American marxist-leninist party of

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deadken posted:

drwhat posted:

deadken posted:

when i was in america i told people i was a marxist-leninist and they were like 'yeah thats cool lets get some coke.' except sometimes they agreed with most of the stuff i said and then continued supporting obama because romney wants to ban their uterus or whatever. who are these dance people lol

left-ish americans post about it on the internet and then spend all the rest of their time with people they call friends who literally support carpet-nuking the rest of the world and destroying every last motherfucker between them and total financial victory. my friends all vote republican!!! no they're really my friends. i get along with them so well!!11

lol not humanities students at big west coast universities, it was basically them that made me support romney



same

#176
you guys reall y showed those suckers whos boss
#177
the death and destruction of every liberal american should be fully supported
#178
does cory booker read the rhizzone

"To conserve food + lessen cravings I'm eating small meals w/ more frequency. Meal 1: Apple," Booker tweeted Friday morning.
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Marx said "We will hang the last capitalist with the rope he himself made." So you're too lazy to make the rope, but more than willing to commit murder with it? You might as well be a Muslim, you evil little shit.



I swear to lord Cthulhu that really happened.

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NounsareVerbs posted:

Marx said "We will hang the last capitalist with the rope he himself made." So you're too lazy to make the rope, but more than willing to commit murder with it? You might as well be a Muslim, you evil little shit.

I swear to lord Cthulhu that really happened.



whoever said that is right

#181
but capitalists dont produce commodities
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blinkandwheeze posted:

animedad posted:

moving your body in a rhythmic manner is just good aesthetics


chicago


#183
the only good form of dancing is shuffling around looking at your shoes to my bloody valentine sorry
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deadken posted:

tpaine do u like pere ubu


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tpaine posted:

animedad posted:

blinkandwheeze posted:

animedad posted:

moving your body in a rhythmic manner is just good aesthetics


chicago





were posting increasingly infantilized and discomforting music videos with black people in them, right?

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i saw an overweight man using a walker at a mall on sunday - he was wearing a 'these colors dont run' shirt.
#189
MUD BUTT
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angelbutt_dollface posted:

were posting increasingly infantilized and discomforting music videos with black people in them, right?



#191
i feel like there's no way they have enough data to compile a top farters list like that from a representative sample of species
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angelbutt_dollface posted:

tpaine posted:
animedad posted:
blinkandwheeze posted:
animedad posted:
moving your body in a rhythmic manner is just good aesthetics

chicago






were posting increasingly infantilized and discomforting music videos with black people in them, right?



#193
that's the next thing white people are going to appropriate mark my words. that video
#194
*glances around forum thoughtfully*

my god...

*removes glasses dramatically*

we already have...
#195

tpaine posted:

whenever anyone challenges my views irl, this starts playing in my head

is that weird

#196
heres what average persons think of MY political views irl



#197
that doesnt suprise me tho, cats from russia in the modern day are really embarrassingly reactionary
#198
cats are mostly right-wing anyway

dogs are good socialist animals.
#199
cats would be ok if they were ridden by parasites that can get lodged in your eyeball and cause you to go blind while it swims around in it like a fish tank
#200
cockroach: socialest bug