#41
*pulls back waving hands dramatically to reveal slowly expanding fat text, "LIBERALISM IS BULLSHIT"*
#42

gyrofry posted:

swampman posted:

A fantasy is a thing. One has a fantasy, one fantasizes. A rape fantasy is a real plan of action, a real mental rehearsal. Fantasy, in some ways, is realer than reality to the rapist, who dismisses the suffering he causes by fantasizing that the woman secretly enjoys, wants, or needs to be raped.

does the same hold true for rape fantasies of women

Yes

#43
i write getfiscal/saribari slashfic, and i vote
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#46
you're an odd bird, goat

"and i don't even call people bird" - jim gaffigan
#47

gyrofry posted:

swampman posted:
A fantasy is a thing. One has a fantasy, one fantasizes. A rape fantasy is a real plan of action, a real mental rehearsal. Fantasy, in some ways, is realer than reality to the rapist, who dismisses the suffering he causes by fantasizing that the woman secretly enjoys, wants, or needs to be raped.
does the same hold true for rape fantasies of women


actually this is probably more true than not for at least some women who can sort of locate the trauma of being raped in a sort of retroactive fantasy & thereby deal with it & process it. it seems really terrible and unhealthy, but it's better than being broken I guess? but you're probably still broken at that point, just differently

#48
did you know that the japanese word for rape is "reipu?" pronounced RAYP-oo. this fact carries with it two equally horrifying possibilities. possibility one is that rape was just such a fact of life that coming up with a word for it was unnecessary, kind of like how there was no word for genocide until the 19th century. or possibility two is that the Tapir-Worf Hypothesis is correct and no one could even conceptualize the idea of having sex without consent until the western imperialists brought Rape to the shores of Japan like they did with syphilis and rats and homosexuality
#49
Interesting. On the topic, here's another factoid: The Chinese word for "rape" contains characters that mean"danger" and "opportunity."
#50
it's "goukan"
#51
actually the word rape in chinese is qiáng jiān, and the kanji do not "translate" into anything, at best they would mean "british marxist's anal fridays" which is obviously incoherent
#52

drwhat posted:

gyrofry posted:

swampman posted:
A fantasy is a thing. One has a fantasy, one fantasizes. A rape fantasy is a real plan of action, a real mental rehearsal. Fantasy, in some ways, is realer than reality to the rapist, who dismisses the suffering he causes by fantasizing that the woman secretly enjoys, wants, or needs to be raped.
does the same hold true for rape fantasies of women

actually this is probably more true than not for at least some women who can sort of locate the trauma of being raped in a sort of retroactive fantasy & thereby deal with it & process it. it seems really terrible and unhealthy, but it's better than being broken I guess? but you're probably still broken at that point, just differently



yes, male and female victims of sexual assault often play out the cycle of abuse in relationships they form later on. they are indeed a target for predators.

many women and men aren't having actual rape fantasies; being overpowered by someone you desire is not like rape. women are not fantasizing about a family member of their partner betraying everyone's trust and raping them when everyone else is out of the house. women don't fantasize about being brutally beaten or having serious damage done to their anuses and vaginas by strangers who wait outside of their apartment buildings or bars and threaten to kill them if they go to police.

#53
agreed saribari. nice job taking a bold stand against rape.
#54
Lol once again we see the white-jewish well off new yorker attempting to tell us what "women" do and don't want. I'd laugh if it wasn't so damn heart breaking.
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#56

Keven posted:

Lol once again we see the white-jewish well off new yorker attempting to tell us what "women" do and don't want. I'd laugh if it wasn't so damn heart breaking.



who is the white jewish well off new yorker? i'm a half white, half arab person making less than 30k a year in texas.

#57

SariBari posted:

making less than 30k a year in texas.

do you even WANT to work for a bank? jesus.

#58
Oh sorry, I guess in that case you are qualified to say that women generally don't want to be sexually assaulted by their fathers. My mistake.
#59

Keven posted:

Oh sorry, I guess in that case you are qualified to say that women generally don't want to be sexually assaulted by their fathers. My mistake.



thanks Keven, means a lot

#60

SariBari posted:

Keven posted:

Lol once again we see the white-jewish well off new yorker attempting to tell us what "women" do and don't want. I'd laugh if it wasn't so damn heart breaking.

who is the white jewish well off new yorker? i'm a half white, half arab person making less than 30k a year in texas.



yes, but on the other hand, spiritually you're all...

#61
saribari can you tell me what it was like growing up a multyracyal womyn in america so i can help mine own spawn
#62
patricide is a natural healthy feeling that should be encouraged in children, especially of oriental descent
#63
that would make no sense because one day i will arrange it thus that i will be killed by capitalism, thus creating the origin story for my daughter to become a dark avenger. expect to find this post edited out 24 hours from now so she never knows the secret that makes her a Hero.
#64
ninjitsu skills are not encoded in genetic memory goatstein
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#66
koreans were never ninjas, nice fucken racism, mods. mods. mods? mods?! *grabs person on the street" MODS
#67

SariBari posted:

being overpowered by someone you desire is not like rape

it isn't enthusiastic consent, is it?

#68

getfiscal posted:

dear OP, unfortunately the "feminists" on this site don't think criminalizing sex work is a good idea, so they probably support rape novel writers because that's just working hard for money and we shant slut-shame. couldn't make it up. political correctness gone mad.


Actually it's more about ending demand, punishing the readers, not the writers. For example under the successful Swedish model, the state offers rehabilitation services for erotica writers to get out of the industry. This includes classes that teach them how to write Scandinavian crime and mystery fiction rather than rape and incest porn.

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#70
idk what that means. to be fair though arabs and indians have never really fit into the Four Great Races one way or another. maybe we should add a fifth race? thats p progressive imo
#71
We can learn a lot from Portugal's approach as well - if you want to read some stories about nailing your sister, for instance, there's a library down at the medical center. They treat the problem like an illness, not a crime, and as an added effect, young people don't find chapter after chapter of Chekov raping Spock ("This is highly illogical, Ensign!") dangerous and thrilling anymore.
#72
Race 1: Whites.
Race 2: Blacks
Race 3: Hispanics
Race 4: Asians

This model is sufficient to describe about 80% of the planet, but it fails with Indians/Arabs/Persians. Should we add a fifth race? But what about the synchronicity with the Four Elements, the Four Humours, etc.? Deep questions to be answered
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#74
I think Desi are honorary whites now, being successful in STEM either due to inherent Indian number-crunching prowess or Salman Khan education and filling the empty slot left after Arabs fell out of favor.

Cheers.
#75

roseweird posted:

keven . . . eat shyt, imo



You're really unfunny tho you seem to think you make jokes, all your ideas are insane nonsense, and you're gross. Go away.

#76
weird american race realism itt (discipline teh ornable exception ofc)
#77

Keven posted:

roseweird posted:

keven . . . eat shyt, imo

You're really unfunny tho you seem to think you make jokes, all your ideas are insane nonsense, and you're gross. Go away.



boring trolls like cointelbro are much worse on all counts though

#78

Goethestein posted:

Race 1: Whites.
Race 2: Blacks
Race 3: Hispanics
Race 4: Asians

This model is sufficient to describe about 80% of the planet, but it fails with Indians/Arabs/Persians. Should we add a fifth race? But what about the synchronicity with the Four Elements, the Four Humours, etc.? Deep questions to be answered



Should pygmies be considered a human subspecies? How do they fit in a Marxist framework?

Also if societies based on equity are supposed to produce populations with good average intelligence but no geniuses or really dumb people, and societies based on disparity and competition are supposed to have lots of dumb people and lots of geniuses, shouldn't there be like 10 Einsteins and 15 Bachs born in Africa already?

Cheers.

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#80
goatstein i have a suggestion that might help resolve your questions.

the Church proposes concrete means of reconciliation, which must be realized at every level. The weight of history, with its litany of resentments, fears, suspicions between families, ethnic groups or populations must first be overcome. "One cannot remain a prisoner of the past: individuals and peoples need a sort of "healing of memories'" (John Paul II, Message for World Day of Peace 1997, n. 3). This will require especially a correct re-reading of each other's history (at the level of education, culture...), resisting all hasty and partisan judgements, in order to acquire a better knowledge and therefore acceptance of others.