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http://pastebin.com/r9pgiPAT >> for the full post

http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/12286951

Perpetuating neo-colonialism through population control: South Africa and the United States.

Third world women in the global economy are valuable as a cheap source of labor and as producers of additional cheap labor sources (children). This discussion focuses on the interrelationships between race, class, and gender bias in international population programs and the unequal power relationship between colonizers and the colonized. For example, USAID directs over 33% of its family planning (FP) service delivery funding and 50% of policy funds to Africa, and African women and women of color in general are blamed for their own poverty and underdevelopment. Madi Gray is cited as suggesting that African FP is the cure for "illegitimacy, misery in the ghettos, and rising crime." The paternalistic and racist population policies of the US are traced to a 1905 speech of President Theodore Roosevelt, who expressed concern about the Yankee stock being overwhelmed by immigrants, non-Whites, and the poor. In 1933, the US Birth Control Federation targeted Black women. Birth control and eugenic practices were integrated before the Second World War and shared the goal of reducing the immigrant and Black populations. The current South African equivalent to this situation is the White power rhetoric of "Black peril" which is said to threaten White power, safety, and profits. Structural changes in both the US and South Africa are creating large surplus labor pools comprised largely of Black Africans. When labor reserves are too large, poverty and underemployment are identified as the result of overpopulation. Unhealthy and unproved birth control technologies have been distributed to Africans while health care, economic resources, and social security have been neglected. Population control is used for selective population reduction.



So, let's talk about the racist subtext of population control and why such emphasis is put on reducing birth rates in brown countries.

Let's also talk about how the modern Left has been totally unaware of the motivation behind these policies because it's paid insufficient attention to the juncture between societal liberalism and colonialism.

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#2
Wow great it's like chain emails from grandpa but in my forums
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prikryl posted:



If only.

So what's your analysis of the Bill and Melinda Gates foundation viz US imperialism?

#6
does this explain the difference between liberals and conservatives ?

Illinois:

The Governor of Illinois is jogging with his dog along a nature
trail. A coyote jumps out and attacks the Governor's dog, then bites
the Governor.

1. The Governor starts to intervene, but reflects upon the movie
"Bambi" and then realizes he should stop because the coyote is
only doing what is natural.

2. He calls animal control .. Animal Control captures the coyote
and bills the State $200 testing it for diseases and $500 for
relocating it.

3. He calls a veterinarian. The vet collects the dead dog and
bills the State $200 testing it for diseases.

4. The Governor goes to hospital and spends $3,500 getting checked
for diseases from the coyote and on getting his bite wound
bandaged.

5. The running trail gets shut down for 6 months while Fish & Game
conducts a $100,000 survey to make sure the area is now free of
dangerous animals.

6. The Governor spends $50,000 in state funds implementing a
"coyote awareness program" for residents of the area.

7. The State Legislature spends $2 million to study how to better
treat rabies and how to permanently eradicate the disease throughout
the world.

8. The Governor's security agent is fired for not stopping the
attack. The State spends $150,000 to hire and train a new agent
with additional special training re: the nature of coyotes.

9. PETA protests the coyote's relocation and files a $5 million
suit against the State.

Wisconsin :

The Governor of Wisconsin is jogging with his dog along a nature
trail. A Coyote jumps out and attacks the dog.

1. The Governor shoots the coyote with his concealed carry pistol
and keeps jogging. The Governor has spent $0.50 on a .45 ACP
hollow point cartridge.

2. The Crows eat the dead coyote. And that, my friends, is why
Illinois is broke and Wisconsin is not.
#7
This was written by a woman born in Egypt as a Muslim. Make sure you read the paragraph (in red) towards the end.

In the Muslim faith a Muslim man can marry a child as young as 1 year old
and have sexual intimacy with this child. Consummating the marriage by 9.

The dowry is given to the family in exchange for the woman (who becomes his
slave) and for the purchase of the private parts of the woman, to use her as
a toy. Even though a woman is abused she can not obtain a divorce.

To prove rape, the woman must have (4) male witnesses.

Often after a woman has been raped, she is returned to her family and the
family must return the dowry. The family has the right to execute her (an
honor killing) to restore the honor of the family. Husbands can beat their
wives 'at will' and he does not have to say why he has beaten her.

The husband is permitted to have (4 wives) and a temporary wife for an hour
(prostitute) at his discretion.

The Shariah Muslim law controls the private as well as the public life of
the woman.
In the West World ( America and Britain ) Muslim men are starting to demand
Shariah Law so the wife can not obtain a divorce and he can have full and
complete control of her. It is amazing and alarming how many of our sisters
and daughters attending American Universities and British Universities are
now marrying Muslim men and submitting themselves and their children
unsuspectingly to the Shariah law.

By passing this on, enlightened American and British women may avoid
becoming a slave under Shariah Law. Ripping the West in Two.

Author and lecturer Nonie Darwish says the goal of radical Islamists is to
impose Shariah law on the world, ripping Western law and liberty in two.

She recently authored the book, Cruel and Usual Punishment: The Terrifying
Global Implications of Islamic Law. Darwish was born in Cairo and spent her
childhood in Egypt and Gaza before immigrating to America in 1978, when she
was eight years old. Her father died while leading covert attacks on Israel
. He was a high-ranking Egyptian military officer stationed with his family
in Gaza .

When he died, he was considered a "shahid," a martyr for jihad. His
posthumous status earned Nonie and her family an elevated position in Muslim
society.
But Darwish developed a skeptical eye at an early age. She questioned her
own Muslim culture and upbringing.. She converted to Christianity after
hearing a Christian preacher on television.
In her latest book, Darwish warns about creeping shariah law - what it is,
what it means, and how it is manifested in Islamic countries.

For the West, she says radical Islamists are working to impose sharia on the
world. If that happens, Western civilization will be destroyed. Westerners
generally assume all religions encourage a respect for the dignity of each
individual. Islamic law (Sharia) teaches that non-Muslims should be
subjugated or killed in this world.

Peace and prosperity for one's children is not as important as assuring that
Islamic law rules everywhere in the Middle East and eventually in the world.

While Westerners tend to think that all religions encourage some form of the
golden rule, Shariah teaches two systems of ethics - one for Muslims and
another for non-Muslims. Building on tribal practices of the seventh
century, Shariah encourages the side of humanity that wants to take from and
subjugate others.

While Westerners tend to think in terms of religious people developing a
personal understanding of and relationship with God, Shariah advocates
executing people who ask difficult questions that could be interpreted as
criticism.


It's hard to imagine, that in this day and age, Islamic scholars agree that
those who criticize Islam or choose to stop being Muslim should be executed.
Sadly, while talk of an Islamic reformation is common and even assumed by
many in the West, such murmurings in the Middle East are silenced through
intimidation.

While Westerners are accustomed to an increase in religious tolerance over
time, Darwish explains how petro dollars are being used to grow an extremely
intolerant form of political Islam in her native Egypt and elsewhere.

(In twenty years there will be enough Muslim voters in the U.S. And Britain
To elect the President by themselves! Rest assured they will do so... You
can look at how they have taken over several towns in the USA .. Dearborn
Mich. Is one... And there are others....) ( Britain has several cities now
totally controlled by Muslims)

I think everyone in the U.S. And Great Britain Should be required to read
this, but with the ACLU, there is no way this will be widely publicized,
unless each of us sends it on!
It is too bad that so many are disillusioned with life and Christianity to
accept Muslims as peaceful.. Some may be but they have an army that is
willing to shed blood in the name of Islam.. The peaceful support the
warriors with their finances and own kind of patriotism to their religion.
While America and Britain are getting rid of Christianity from all public
sites and erasing God from the lives of children the Muslims have one of their own in the White House and are planning a great jihad on America .. (and Britain ) ..

A German's view on Islam - worth reading. This is by far the best explanation of the Muslim terrorist situation I have ever read. His references to past history are accurate and clear. Not long, easy to understand, and well worth the read. The author of this email is Dr. Emanuel Tanya, a well-known and well-respected psychiatrist.

A man, whose family was German aristocracy prior to World War II, owned a number of large industries and estates. When asked how many German people were true Nazis, the answer he gave can guide our attitude toward fanaticism.

'Very few people were true Nazis,' he said, 'but many enjoyed the return of German pride, and many more were too busy to care. I was one of those who just thought the Nazis were a bunch of fools. So, the majority just sat back and let it all happen. Then, before we knew it, they owned us, and we had lost control, and the end of the world had come. My family lost everything. I ended up in a concentration camp and the Allies destroyed my factories.'

We are told again and again by 'experts' and 'talking heads' that Islam is the religion of peace and that the vast majority of Muslims just want to live in peace. Although this unqualified assertion may be true, it is entirely irrelevant. It is meaningless fluff, meant to make us feel better, and meant to somehow diminish the specter of fanatics rampaging across the globe in the name of Islam.

The fact is that the fanatics rule Islam at this moment in history. It is the fanatics who march. It is the fanatics who wage any one of 50 shooting wars worldwide. It is the fanatics who systematically slaughter Christian or tribal groups throughout Africa and are gradually taking over the entire continent in an Islamic wave. It is the fanatics who bomb, behead, murder, or honor-kill. It is the fanatics who take over mosque after mosque. It is the fanatics who zealously spread the stoning and hanging of rape victims and homosexuals. It is the fanatics who teach their young to kill and to become suicide bombers.

The hard, quantifiable fact is that the peaceful majority, the 'silent majority,' is cowed and extraneous. Communist Russia was comprised of Russians who just wanted to live in peace, yet the Russian Communists were responsible for the murder of about 20 million people. The peaceful majority were irrelevant.. China's huge population was peaceful as well, but Chinese Communists managed to kill a staggering 70 million people.

The average Japanese individual prior to World War II was not a warmongering sadist. Yet, Japan murdered and slaughtered its way across South East Asia in an orgy of killing that included the systematic murder of 12 million Chinese civilians; most killed by sword, shovel, and bayonet.

And who can forget Rwanda , which collapsed into butchery. Could it not be said that the majority of Rwandans were 'peace loving'?

History lessons are often incredibly simple and blunt, yet for all our powers of reason, we often miss the most basic and uncomplicated of points: Peace-loving Muslims have been made irrelevant by their silence. Peace-loving Muslims will become our enemy if they don't speak up, because like my friend from Germany , they will awaken one day and find that the fanatics own them, and the end of their world will have begun.

Peace-loving Germans, Japanese, Chinese, Russians, Rwandans, Serbs, Afghans, Iraqis, Palestinians, Somalis, Nigerians, Algerians, and many others have died because the peaceful majority did not speak up until it was too late. As for us who watch it all unfold, we must pay attention to the only group that counts--the fanatics who threaten our way of life.

Lastly, anyone who doubts that the issue is serious and just deletes this email without sending it on, is contributing to the passiveness that allows the problems to expand. So, extend yourself a bit and send this on and on and on! Let us hope that thousands, world-wide, read this and think about it, and send it on - before it's too late.

Now Islamic prayers have been introduced into New York City public schools, Toronto and other public schools in Ontario, and, yes, in Ottawa, too, while The Lord's Prayer was removed (due to being so offensive). The Islamic way may be peaceful for the time being in our country until the fanatics move in. And we are silent....
#8
It's not cute that you're shitposting in my thread because you don't want to admit the racist pretext to population control.
#9
Youre not cute
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#11
does anyone have stuff to read about superrich using supertech to take eugenics to the next level?

this aint yo daddy's rahowa
#12

prikryl posted:

1. The Governor starts to intervene, but reflects upon the movie
"Bambi" and then realizes he should stop because the coyote is
only doing what is natural.



isnt this Libertarianism/Objectivism?

#13
Perhaps you didn't get the point. Well, here is a shorter OP.
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#15
Replace every mustang post with that imo
#16
that article is 20 years old man, id rather something more recent
#17
That's just the last of several articles. Apartheid ended twenty years ago anyway, and the push for birth control in brown countries has just gotten stronger since.

I might as well post the rest.

www.jstor.org/stable/2584636

Reproductive Control in Apartheid South Africa

The state-sponsored family planning programme officially began in South Africa in 1974 in the midst of rising unemployment among blacks, rapid urbanisation of the black population, and increasing militancy against the regime1. The government promoted family planning services as a measure to improve the health of women and their children; it also acknowledged that the programme was a way to place a check on the high population growth rate which was burdening limited resources. The government did not implement the programme on a racial basis. Services were provided free to any woman who sought them. However, the link between the family planning programme and white fears of growing black numbers was widely acknowledged. Accusations were lodged against family planning that it was a dubious programme of control with genocidal undertones while supporters prophesied an imminent (black) population explosion which demanded immediate and decisive action by the government. Yet while the political climate surrounding fertility control had been at best hostile prior to the early 1990s, the programme in fact had been 'successful' on several dimensions.



Black community leaders have been tremendously influential in mobilising or suspending action among their constituencies on a wide variety of issues. Their opinions about family planning had the potential of creating a conducive or hostile environment for reproductive decision-making. These leaders also have almost always been men. The complexity of gender relations in South Africa, varying considerably across regions and within urban and rural settings, and coupled with high levels of censorship, makes a detailed assessment of family planning at the community level challenging. Media reports, however, indicate a high level of hostility to family planning, both because of the concern over population numbers implied by the programme, and because many saw fertility control as an affront to (male) authority and counter to the 'African' way of life. Relatively little concern was expressed for the health or well-being of women and their children or for the role of men in the maintenance of their families. In 1982, for example, the African Communist, a paper issued from London by the South African Communist Party, ran an article entitled:

'Family Planning in South Africa-a Kind of Genocide': ...The so-called national family planning programme is being used to perpetuate White domination and the oppression and exploitation of the Black majority.. .In the South African context family planning tramples on rights of the oppressed Black majority and the hostility with which the oppressed majority have reacted to this policy is a direct result of the historical experience of racist White minority rule which has systematically robbed them of the land and the liberty and is now intent on restricting their right to reproduce themselves. The people's rejection of population control is part of their strategy for self-preservation. (Hansard 1983, c.283-4).



Several more specific controversies surrounding the family planning programme did not work to allay community suspicion. Depo-Provera, a long- lasting injectable contraceptive, was a major focus of criticism. Depo was received with enthusiasm by medical doctors in the late 1960s (Tyler 1968; Karstadt 1970; Ferguson 1974), and its convenience as a contraceptive method lasting for up to three
months was immediately recognised by the family planning programme. Striking differences in contraceptive method use patterns by race quickly appeared. In the late 1980s the injection was the method administered to over 50 per cent of all black users and 40 per cent of coloured, while the pill and sterilisation predominated among Indian and white users. The degree to which black and coloured women, especially in rural areas, had a choice of methods presented to them was questionable (see also Chimere-Dan 1993). With the Federal Drug Administration's ban on Depo in the United States, many critics of the programme accused it of subjecting black South African women to dangerous chemicals to achieve demographic objectives (SAIRR 1980). The national programme did not attempt to cancel or limit the use of the method.

The injection was a long lasting form of fertility control that did not require consent or co-operation of a woman's partner or in- laws. For women who feared disapproval, the injectable contraceptive was an ideal choice (Gready et al 1994; Kaufman 1994). Abuses of contraception related to employment were also a source of controversy. Employment opportunities were limited for black South African women and most positions were not suited to the 'inconveniences' of child-bearing or child care. Women who became pregnant often lost their jobs. As one worker commented (in Barrett, et al. 1985, p.142): 'If someone knows you are pregnant, they will run to the nursing sister and tell her - so that you are fired, and they know someone who can take your place.' While many women sought contra- ception to keep their jobs, others had no choice. In some instances contraceptive use became a pre- condition for hire and for continued employment. Women who did become pregnant had no guarantee of a job after the birth of a child. They were also susceptible to 'influx' control laws under which they could be judged 'unproductive' and sent to the appropriate homeland. Another widespread practice known as 'the fourth stage of labour', involved administering an injection immediately post-partum (Klugman 1993; Stockton 1995). The rationale for this practice is unknown, since women are usually anovulatory for several months after delivery. Nonetheless, nurses usually provided the injection as a matter of procedure. Permission from the patient was not sought generally, although sometimes the patient received the explanation that the 'baby will be healthier' (Mamosadi 1995). One young woman described her experience (in Klugman 1988:102): 'I used it after delivering my baby. I was taken there and given an injection without being told anything. They only took my blood pressure and gave me the next date for a check up.'



Sex, Death and the Fate of the Nation: Reflections on the Politicization of Sexuality in Post-Apartheid South Africa

This recent politicization of sexuality is unexpected and enigmatic.
It was not foretold in most, if not all, the major policy documents
and debates which accompanied South Africa's transition. The
Reconstruction and Development Programme (RDP), which was the
initial policy framework of the African National Congress affirmed on
its election to office in 1994, for example, made copious reference to
issues of gender, seen largely as the need to 'empower' women (extend

widen their access to social and economic opportunities)But there
was little sense of the political salience of the domain of sexuality,
other than reference to the need for improved mental healths services
for 'those affected by ... rape or child abuse' (ANC 1994: para.
2.12.7.2). By contrast, one of the public policy debates where the issue
of the politics of sexuality was raised- but then seemingly immediately
and strategically backgrounded- was in respect of a post-apartheid
population policy. The apartheid state's notoriously crude efforts to
manipulate black fertility made it difficult for the new regime to deal
with matters of sexuality within the rubric of a legitimate national
population policy;hence the concern in the post-apartheid White Paper
on Population Policy, which shaped the production of the new policy, to
frame issues of reproductive health and fertility with reference to their
wider 'developmental' parameter(sR SA 1998:p ara. 1.3).

#18
none of this supports what you say pretty much lol
#19
You can do better than that, Jools. I know you can. You've presented arguments before.
#20
you're smearing around shit that happened under apartheid with shit that happens now though, it's completely incoherent. it's dumb. it's bad. it says nothing about how black south african women engage with contraception or take control over their own reproduction. it's stupid.
#21
get a god damn job already
#22

prikryl posted:

Illinois:

The Governor of Illinois is jogging with his dog along a nature
trail. A coyote jumps out and attacks the Governor's dog, then bites
the Governor.



More evidence of the terrible effects that shitty, improperly supervised, hysterical mass media has on the US mind. The common man has no basis to begin analyzing politics, the media has no place creating stories and illusions that make people think the illinois wisconsin notion is reasonable.

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#23
lykourgos you should read society of the spectacle, lol
#24

you're smearing around shit that happened under apartheid with shit that happens now though, it's completely incoherent. it's dumb. it's bad. it says nothing about how black south african women engage with contraception or take control over their own reproduction. it's stupid.



Uh, it's still happening. The big "family planning" push hasn't gone away. You didn't even respond to the point anyway. Population control has been a cover for selective extermination of minority groups since its inception.

For example, USAID directs over 33% of its family planning (FP) service delivery funding and 50% of policy funds to Africa, and African women and women of color in general are blamed for their own poverty and underdevelopment.



How has this changed at all? What more recent source do you want? Bill Gates?

And of course there's the racist roots of planned parenthood. Tell me more about how eugenics and birth control have nothing to do with each other.

http://trdd.org/EUGBR_2E.HTM

eugenics

The Francis Galton's eugenicist doctrine gave birth to a thought quite in fashion at the beginning of the century, of years 1920 to 1940. A eugenics chair was created at the University of London from 1904. Thus adhesion to eugenics spread quickly in the university milieus, particularly in Germany, in England and in the United States.

One of the main motivations of Margaret Sanger, during all her life, was her obsession of returning the populations who lived in the slums to the "natural selection" and"because of their animalistic nature bred like rabbits and would soon overrun the boundaries of their slum or country, contaminating the better elements of society with diseases and inferior genes"(9).

"The most merciful thing a large family can do to one of its infant members, is to kill it"(1920).

"The maternity facilities for slum mothers are injurious to the community and the race. Charity will only prolong the misery of the unfit"(1922).

#25
i'm more concerned with how feminist sponsored abortion in india is leading to a horrendous gender imbalance
#26
You do realize that the blacks took power but essentially kept the same system of economic/political domination (minus apartheid), right? I mean you're not shooting down striking miners because they're black, right?
#27
There's also the implicitly racist argument often put forth by liberals that abortion reduces crime- because more black fetuses are aborted than white fetuses.
#28
i think you just hate women mustang, lol
#29
No, Sharia Law is true gender equality.

I'm at least glad that you're not attempting to defend the racist, malthusian beliefs normally put forward by liberal elites and mindlessly reiterated by the "radical left".
#30
your version of "shariah law" is some CIA-created bullarse you know
#31

your version of "shariah law" is some CIA-created bullarse you know



It's ironic for you to say that because liberal Islam came into existence in the 19th century as a product of colonialism. No conspiracy theories necessary.

At least you seem implicitly admit that the family planning policies of apartheid were, in fact, racist. Yet when the same policies continue today you suddenly support them. Why, what changed?

It's telling that you rightfully condemn the Native American genocide, yet you ignore the black genocide under apartheid because "oh, it happened in the past, it doesn't matter after all."

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#32
what? wahhabism is a colonial product lol
#33
i mean unless you think the ottoman empire was a product of western colonialism or something
#34

i mean unless you think the ottoman empire was a product of western colonialism or something



Insidiously, it was. Ataturk sought to westernize Turkey.

Your comment about Wahabbism is total BS because the movement was specifically opposed to Western-style modernization.

#35
lol, as if that isn't in colonial interests. and what does ataturk have to do with the ottoman empire there?
#36
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#37

lol, as if that isn't in colonial interests. and what does ataturk have to do with the ottoman empire there?



Do you, like, not know who Ataturk was or something?

It's also interesting that you brought up wahabbism because Islamists allied with Hitler during World War II to throw off British colonialism. Another uncomfortable fact for the first world, secular Left is that Hitler is adored in the Middle East to this day.

#38
lmao
#39
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/middle-east/israel-gave-birth-control-to-ethiopian-jews-without-their-consent-8468800.html

Israel has admitted for the first time that it has been giving Ethiopian Jewish immigrants birth-control injections, often without their knowledge or consent.



something a little more recent. Jews are eliminating black Jews.

i talked with a professor from Zambia once about the topic of family planning/less African kids, and he said it's definitely not as clear cut as population control advocates like to make it. He said really more kids for an impoverished family can be really useful, but he did admit that there are greater strains on resources then. Either way, he maintained it's a complex issue with no clear (as of yet) solution, iirc.

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mustang posted:

i mean unless you think the ottoman empire was a product of western colonialism or something

Insidiously, it was. Ataturk sought to westernize Turkey.

Your comment about Wahabbism is total BS because the movement was specifically opposed to Western-style modernization.


The disintegration of the Ottoman Empire in the nineteenth century is a very complex history unless you actually believe that the West's view of the "Sick Man of Europe" and competing interests between the Frogs/Brits/Ruskies in the region were the over-determining factors.