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daddyholes posted:

Agnus_Dei posted:

Protestants, aka secularism/modernity/liberalism

if you're going to continue to fake Catholicism you need to get your game up because this isn't working



what

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AVE_MARIA_GRATIA_PLENA posted:

daddyholes posted:

Agnus_Dei posted:

Protestants, aka secularism/modernity/liberalism

if you're going to continue to fake Catholicism you need to get your game up because this isn't working

what



Pacem in terris

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i went overboard to be polite with that comment, wasn't going to point it out but there it is
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all i am saying is that if you are going to pose a religion when talking about politics a key component of your pose might be to find and briefly skim the one contemporary document absolutely crucial to your fake position. thats all im saying
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I don't know whether to support the Lion Assad or the Whore of Babylon
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moar boar wants moe boarders
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tpaine posted:



bono is really good, thanks man. i "digged" it ))

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babyfinland posted:

Lessons posted:

like, advocating open borders to end the gaza siege is like advocating an end of gender to stop sex trafficking. neither of these things are gonna happen anytime soon and it would be much easier so solve the 'derivative' problems through other means. you might as well advocate teleporting everyone out of gaza

i don't think anyone is advocating that. i'm trying to get a little bit more nuanced discussion than one that seems to follow the logic of "all restrictions on labor mobility is good because capital triumphalizes its form of free labor"

i mean the capitalist system restricts movement far more than it frees it in any case



the topic needs to be expounded on heavily to do the question any justice. i guess it all depends on what is a satisfactory answer to the question of "borders bro?" and in what context (ideological, pragmatic, etc...). i suppose "neo-liberalism bad; full communism good" will have to suffice given the intent with rhe question has no barring on any praxis. i agree though, the truht lies in the dialectical middle

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just wanted to pop in to say i got an A's hat the other day and now i look like a bada55
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goongratulations on your ashat
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Lysenko posted:

considering how competitive top athletes are, I imagine a lot of defectors just want to play and prove themselves against the world's best, which they wouldn't get in cuba. i don't watch baseball though

there's one halfway functioning socialist state in the world, but yeah good for these individuals chasing their dreams. i wonder what cubans think about it...

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daddyholes posted:

all i am saying is that if you are going to pose a religion when talking about politics a key component of your pose might be to find and briefly skim the one contemporary document absolutely crucial to your fake position. thats all im saying

Joel has been Catholic posting for a long time, i don't think he is faking. Maybe he just hasn't been studying for more than a couple years.

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daddyholes posted:

AVE_MARIA_GRATIA_PLENA posted:

daddyholes posted:

Agnus_Dei posted:

Protestants, aka secularism/modernity/liberalism

if you're going to continue to fake Catholicism you need to get your game up because this isn't working

what

Pacem in terris


the statement "protestant/secular/liberal modernity invented the concept of human rights toward bourgeois ends" and the statement "the church has since used and/or referenced this concept, long after it became hegemonic, in its official documents" aren't irreconcilable fuckboi

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daddyholes posted:

Pacem in terris


IWC asked where the idea of "human rights" came from. Like so many other core elements of modern philosophy, it is a Renaissance/Enlightenment idea which abstracts traditional Christian ideas into areligious terms. This is a question of history, not of Catholic teaching. Obviously the Church supports human rights, but it would not have used such language before the normalization of secularism.

"The European wars of religion and the civil wars of seventeenth century England gave rise to the philosophy of liberalism and belief in human rights became a central concern of European intellectual culture during the 18th century Age of Enlightenment."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/History_of_human_rights

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Agnus_Dei posted:

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

where does the supposedly inviolable nature of 'human rights' come from anyway, some Swiss bureaucrat? i'm always surprised when i hear people talking about human rights to be honest, i thought it would have gone the way of 'where's the beef' or 'workers of the world unite'

Protestants, aka secularism/modernity/liberalism


lmao

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*demands fundamentalist biblical literalism, engages in religious wars and slaughters millions* "Ahhh, I love secular liberal modernity."
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AVE_MARIA_GRATIA_PLENA posted:

daddyholes posted:

AVE_MARIA_GRATIA_PLENA posted:

daddyholes posted:

Agnus_Dei posted:

Protestants, aka secularism/modernity/liberalism

if you're going to continue to fake Catholicism you need to get your game up because this isn't working

what

Pacem in terris

the statement "protestant/secular/liberal modernity invented the concept of human rights toward bourgeois ends" and the statement "the church has since used and/or referenced this concept, long after it became hegemonic, in its official documents" aren't irreconcilable fuckboi


are you operating on some fucked-up appropriation of Weber or is this theory one entirely of your own concoction

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Lessons posted:

AVE_MARIA_GRATIA_PLENA posted:

daddyholes posted:

AVE_MARIA_GRATIA_PLENA posted:

daddyholes posted:

Agnus_Dei posted:

Protestants, aka secularism/modernity/liberalism

if you're going to continue to fake Catholicism you need to get your game up because this isn't working

what

Pacem in terris

the statement "protestant/secular/liberal modernity invented the concept of human rights toward bourgeois ends" and the statement "the church has since used and/or referenced this concept, long after it became hegemonic, in its official documents" aren't irreconcilable fuckboi

are you operating on some fucked-up appropriation of Weber or is this theory one entirely of your own concoction


hmm yase the term 'human rights' was widespread and commonly accepted before the protestant reformation and the enlightenment and has nothing to do with secular liberalism

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weber is cool
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AVE_MARIA_GRATIA_PLENA posted:

Lessons posted:

AVE_MARIA_GRATIA_PLENA posted:

cars posted:

AVE_MARIA_GRATIA_PLENA posted:

cars posted:

Agnus_Dei posted:

Protestants, aka secularism/modernity/liberalism

if you're going to continue to fake Catholicism you need to get your game up because this isn't working

what

Pacem in terris

the statement "protestant/secular/liberal modernity invented the concept of human rights toward bourgeois ends" and the statement "the church has since used and/or referenced this concept, long after it became hegemonic, in its official documents" aren't irreconcilable fuckboi

are you operating on some fucked-up appropriation of Weber or is this theory one entirely of your own concoction

hmm yase the term 'human rights' was widespread and commonly accepted before the protestant reformation and the enlightenment and has nothing to do with secular liberalism


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i don't like the enlightenment...i LOVE it!!!!
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babyfinland posted:

weber is cool


for me to poop on

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you're kind of like baby huey in that you have this anti-canon of highly influential people whose thought you outright dismiss as being thoroughly worthless. and it seems like its based on like a superficial reading or disagreement with popular notion of their work rather than a proper engagement with it. like weber not asserting economic determinism therefore he sucks. kind of silly if u ask me
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he made an outstanding grill
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gyrofry posted:

he made an outstanding grill



i'll grill you, you fuck. don't think i've forgotten about your EPIC WRONG ASSopinions

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come at me bro
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it has nothing to do with canon, but i do think explaining society in terms of The Protestant Work Ethic is fundamentally retarded
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this hot... dish... that you can eat... made with rice
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tpaine posted:

babyfinland posted:

this hot... dish... that you can eat... made with rice

watch all of four of those if you haven't seen them



puttin that on my bucket list RIGHT NOW

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tpaine posted:

gyrofry posted:

he made an outstanding grill



watching this fills me with deep and unending melancholy

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it is honestly depressing, i couldn't get more than 40s into it. had to turn it off when he starts heaving and breathing heavily due to the physical exertion of reaching to the microwave and then proceeding to mix the rice.
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babyfinland posted:

puttin that on my bucket list RIGHT NOW



n.b. an actual sixteen gallon bucket

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it's like watching a junkie, who has destroyed his body with heroin, making an instructional youtube video of how to shoot up and watching the needle slowly plunge into his arm then shooting up the most disgusting black tar imaginable. the guy needs a keto intervention; it is utterly unconscionable that we exist in such a society where gluten and starches can be so easily obtained in large quantities.
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rice doesn't contain gluten dog
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I can't help but imagine Steve Reed as a fatter Shelley Levene from GlenGarry Glen Ross; a hopeless travelling salesman driving from dingy hotel to dingy hotel with a briefcase full of timeshare contracts and ricearoni
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Lessons posted:

it has nothing to do with canon, but i do think explaining society in terms of The Protestant Work Ethic is fundamentally retarded


weber was in fact wrong and that has only marginally anything to do with it

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littlegreenpills posted:

rice doesn't contain gluten dog



Thanks for the insightful post that also happens to be wrong. Apparently, you, on the otherhand, are chalk full of Gluten -- Gluten for punishment, that is. Your libidinous drive to be repeatedly cucked by obese men with micro penises (like yours truly) has now spilled over into the virtual world, manifesting in outbursts of sadomasochistic posting. I'm sorry, I won't be a part of it or complicit in your attempts at personal brand self-destruction. Leave me out of it, as well as your ill-conceived, fucked up, misconceptions about Rice-a-Roni and subsequent defense mass produced commercial carb products [read: POISON].