#41
*takes a bus out to my grandpappy's farm in the Big City*
#42

EmanuelaOrlandi posted:

ya. the rural cities, dude.



Welcome to rural Atlanta, The Big Easy, Birthplace of Rock & Roll

#43
iwc why didn't you just link to that other forum, instead of reposting your own troll here?
#44
is this thread just here so someone can point out the energy inefficiency and ecological damage that surburban living entails just so iwc can go "aha, global climate change is a fraud, check out this article about growing as opposed to shrinking islands, suburban living is alright, keep driving 80 miles a day and burning fossil fuels at ridiculous rates"?
#45
all threads serve a greater purpose
#46

TG posted:

is this thread just here so someone can point out the energy inefficiency and ecological damage that surburban living entails just so iwc can go "aha, global climate change is a fraud, check out this article about growing as opposed to shrinking islands, suburban living is alright, keep driving 80 miles a day and burning fossil fuels at ridiculous rates"?

Ironicwarcriminal posted:

I didn't say "please outline the economic injustice behind suburbia", i said why should people reject it if they can afford it?

for example affording alcohol and drugs is an excess luxury that could be spent helping others but you still indulge in it, it's the same with suburbanites

no its so we can talk about how if you're a sociopath there's no reason to do anything. as mr. reznor put it: god is dead and no one cares if there is a hell i'll see you there. hey pigg

#47

TG posted:

is this thread just here so someone can point out the energy inefficiency and ecological damage that surburban living entails just so iwc can go "aha, global climate change is a fraud, check out this article about growing as opposed to shrinking islands, suburban living is alright, keep driving 80 miles a day and burning fossil fuels at ridiculous rates"?



No it's to critique the busybody mentality that chides people for wanting to do their own thing.

Urbanists and other anti-suburban demagogues are like a prissy, insecure version of the organizers of a high school pep rally

#48
why should anyone care what they do ever. legalize it. ron paul 2012
#49
The leftist infatuation with living in dirty and dangerous cities is rooted in some weird combination of white guilt, symbolic patricide, and misplaced identification with "community." Eventually you realize making a safe, secure life for your family outweighs the cred of leading the revolution by being the first white kid with an MA to rent a walk up in New Lots
#50
fuck you dad
#51
After imbibing more than a few beverages at the Henry St Alehouse, I called out Dork Rex for his adhering to an ideology of urban renewal while living in Vinegar Hill, he assured me that a cop told him just twenty five years prior, it was all piss and needles.

thirdplace posted:

fuck you dad



Exactly

#52
yuppies can do what they want with their money, who cares. this shit doesnt fight capital
#53

animedad posted:

yuppies can do what they want with their money, who cares. this shit doesnt fight capital



#54
cities aren't dangerous at all, i bet dollars to donutz that if you worked out the statistics the increased risk from all the extra driving living in suburbs requires dramatically outweigh whatever the increased crime rate is in city, and that's not even considering that only a small fraction of violent crime is committed against strangers
#55

thirdplace posted:

cities aren't dangerous at all, i bet dollars to donutz that if you worked out the statistics the increased risk from all the extra driving living in suburbs requires dramatically outweigh whatever the increased crime rate is in city, and that's not even considering that only a small fraction of violent crime is committed against strangers



*beep boop must process crime statistics to determine rational course of action*

Why live your life in fear if you can avoid it by moving somewhere that feels safer?

#56

can you see the milky way in the suburbs?
#57

thirdplace posted:

cities aren't dangerous at all, i bet dollars to donutz that if you worked out the statistics the increased risk from all the extra driving living in suburbs requires dramatically outweigh whatever the increased crime rate is in city, and that's not even considering that only a small fraction of violent crime is committed against strangers



ok let me listen to a man explain to me through empiricism how things are safe because of x metric over y axis instead of girls I know who don't feel safe riding the bus after dark

#58
yea let's just trust our gut instincts on the issue there are certainly no social phenomena that may have "colored" them in an particular way
#59

thirdplace posted:

yea let's just trust our gut instincts on the issue there are certainly no social phenomena that may have "colored" them in an particular way



yeah those crazy bitches need to get over their "irrational" fears huh. Just because they were once raped doesn't mean everyone is going to rape them! Heh, epic vapidity

#60
expert shift in tone from "wise and worldly pater familias" to "liberal feminist," that shit was almost seamless
#61
i know a fair number of female rape victims. however none of their attackers were strangers or on a bus
#62
all the girls i knew in undergrad were just dying to go live in the suburbs because the city we went to school in was a roiling cauldron of sexual assault and public transit-related crime
#63
of course, I realize now that this opens me in turn to the "beep-boop-borp-statisticsbot" accusations as well. people have real fears. their fears are real. the hubris of the method that gave us thalidomide and radium watchdials cannot be allowed to pass a binding verdict over measles vaccines or black men on the bus
#64
everything is endless rape and murder including suburbs, wrap it up humanity
#65
i mean its actually really fantastic what's happened here
#66
fascism and national socialism share a dislike for a quiet and comfortable life.
#67
iwc has successfully managed to call into question the value of knowing or examining anything at all
#68

littlegreenpills posted:

iwc has successfully managed to call into question the value of knowing or examining anything at all



iwc: the derrida of the 21st century? he's a gay jew born on colonial land so Probably

#69
i used to think there might have been something in studying global economics, poverty reducing initiatives, the politics of basic subsidies in Indonesia for example and all that shit but now i'm safe in the knowledge it is all a pile of ball bags
#70
who gives a fuck about derrida. i read a book by francis wheen (man he's funny! Big up the Guardian) where he totally skewered derrida in the third chapter for being a cock. no thanks. now lets make jokes about the french. euuughhh. camembert snails
#71

littlegreenpills posted:

of course, I realize now that this opens me in turn to the "beep-boop-borp-statisticsbot" accusations as well. people have real fears. their fears are real. the hubris of the method that gave us thalidomide and radium watchdials cannot be allowed to pass a binding verdict over measles vaccines or black men on the bus



any statistical "evidence" of such fears being founded would just be handwaved away as either the product of being victimised by capitalism or just rejected entirely, so why even take that approach. to suggest that a woman in the kind of dangerous environment often found in cities isn't entitled to feel at the very least a bit of apprehension is almost stunningly out of touch with reality

#72
and there we go! Math is socially constructed by the cultural marxists
#73
"You can prove anything you want with FACTS" - a cab driver
#74

littlegreenpills posted:

who gives a fuck about derrida. i read a book by francis wheen (man he's funny! Big up the Guardian) where he totally skewered derrida in the third chapter for being a cock. no thanks. now lets make jokes about the french. euuughhh. camembert snails



how mumbo-jumbo conquered the world? lol that things great, i love the bit where he takes a bit of deleuze out of context and mocks it for using a specialised vocabulary, as if he could do the same to a work of conceptual physics and understand it perfectly. proof that 'british philosophy' is an oxymoron

#75

Groulxsmith posted:

littlegreenpills posted:
of course, I realize now that this opens me in turn to the "beep-boop-borp-statisticsbot" accusations as well. people have real fears. their fears are real. the hubris of the method that gave us thalidomide and radium watchdials cannot be allowed to pass a binding verdict over measles vaccines or black men on the bus


any statistical "evidence" of such fears being founded would just be handwaved away as either the product of being victimised by capitalism or just rejected entirely, so why even take that approach. to suggest that a woman in the kind of dangerous environment often found in cities isn't entitled to feel at the very least a bit of apprehension is almost stunningly out of touch with reality




It's like some people get visibly angry and outraged about how others want to interact with the community or others. Truly bizzare

The crimes of history are a record of crowds, mobs, armies...."participation" and "masses" in general. The 20th century gives us about 100 million reasons why people wouldn't want to live around that.

#76
yeah i know right. and the way he completely missed the point of "the gulf war did not take place". doesn't stop the sokal hoax being a genuine embarrassment mind
#77
crowds of ppl r scary
#78

Impper posted:

crowds of ppl r scary



i don't understand the appeal of crowds

#79
y'all can't fool me i know what the suburbs are REALLY like

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#80
i don't either. i've never been around a crowd i liked, now that i think of it. even the soaring feeling you get occasionally is fleeting and nonsensical, animal-and-fear based at best