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discipline posted:

daddyholes posted:

how did you find out that was the case, how did it go down



I was applying for a job and someone had a sharp intake of breath at the word palestine. they said this was not an objective thing to call where I was, that I should say west bank because to say palestine is very political and journalists are supposed to be objective and apolitical. I didn't get the job but it was also about when I realized they could all go fuck themselves


how did you respond to being treated exactly like a literal irl child who goes to the zoo and calls a llama "doggy" or w/e

did you sabotage their attempt to pretend as though it were impossible for any educated professional to ever make a deliberate decision to refer to palestine as such

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"you shouldn't call it palestine, that's political and journalists are supposed to be apolitical and objective. now, to continue, if you were to work here, here are our policies on reporting on enhanced interrogation techniques, targeted killings, and surgical strikes"
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discipline posted:

I just shrugged it off and moved on tbh I figure the kind of job where they get on my case for living in palestine is probably the sort of job I won't really be happy in


obv

i just wanted to hear the details if you thought 'ok fuck this & fuck you' and picked a fight with them about whether or not the existence of the state of palestine is an Objective Journalistic Truth

because that would have been p glorious

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How many threads are you going to make like this?
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discipline posted:

wasted posted:

did you get a new job?

here? not yet, but I have a second interview on tuesday :^) so I feel hopeful!

wait the rhizzone is hiring????

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objective journalistic truth, lol
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do palestinian mothers really hate isrealis more than they love their children, op?

are people constantly kept cooped up in dense urban places like gaza, or do opportunities to get out and clear the head/ relax etc exist?

also how did you learn arabic so fast? i tried in my spare time a few years back, but gave up when i realized i'd need to spend years full time to make any kind of progress
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Can you go there for an archaeological dig or premodern historical research or whatever and not have to think about the political situation? Because that kind of stuff can be really distracting, and for the sake of the work and preservation of an objective historical record it would be better if those problems could be pushed aside as much as possible.
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when i was in israel/palesteine for VACATION in december me and my gentile friends never had problems going through the checkpoints into the west bank. like, we wouldn't even let them ask us question. before they could say anything we would ask for directions and then just drive off. It was all quite surprising considering how they treated us at the airport when they figured out we were non-jew, but the west bank/israel borders were pieces of cake.
So I'm wondering why it was so difficult for you? we had one guy with a really big nose with us, and except for one dude we were all white so maybe thats like an all access pass? or was it because we were close to jewy-ruselam? and if thats the case, why don't you just cross around there to save yourself the hassle.
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hey posted:

when i was in israel/palesteine for VACATION in december me and my gentile friends never had problems going through the checkpoints into the west bank. like, we wouldn't even let them ask us question. before they could say anything we would ask for directions and then just drive off. It was all quite surprising considering how they treated us at the airport when they figured out we were non-jew, but the west bank/israel borders were pieces of cake.
So I'm wondering why it was so difficult for you? we had one guy with a really big nose with us, and except for one dude we were all white so maybe thats like an all access pass? or was it because we were close to jewy-ruselam? and if thats the case, why don't you just cross around there to save yourself the hassle.


you did this and didn't post an ASK thread????

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drwhat posted:

hey posted:

when i was in israel/palesteine for VACATION in december me and my gentile friends never had problems going through the checkpoints into the west bank. like, we wouldn't even let them ask us question. before they could say anything we would ask for directions and then just drive off. It was all quite surprising considering how they treated us at the airport when they figured out we were non-jew, but the west bank/israel borders were pieces of cake.
So I'm wondering why it was so difficult for you? we had one guy with a really big nose with us, and except for one dude we were all white so maybe thats like an all access pass? or was it because we were close to jewy-ruselam? and if thats the case, why don't you just cross around there to save yourself the hassle.

you did this and didn't post an ASK thread????


yeah i did you must of missed the thread it was called "ASK me about being ghey"

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discipline posted:

daddyholes posted:

how did you find out that was the case, how did it go down

I was applying for a job and someone had a sharp intake of breath at the word palestine. they said this was not an objective thing to call where I was, that I should say west bank because to say palestine is very political and journalists are supposed to be objective and apolitical. I didn't get the job but it was also about when I realized they could all go fuck themselves



That bloke sounds like a legitimately good journo, perhaps you should have behaved a little better in that interview. It's not for journos to determine important issues; they can either take a step back and report raw data, or analyze it in accordance with the guidance of more suitable people. American journos are dreadful.

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please stop saying journo
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discipline posted:

and cory is going to live in nablus soon


gluck and have fun cory

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gyrofry posted:

please stop saying journo



What do you call them? Eternal amateurs who want to voice an opinion on everything under the sun? Americans?

Waah why can't I espouse whatever my random commoner opinions are in a major publication? Respect me I have the answers even though I'm an outsider and the bloke who walks your dog or tends to the backyard is more mature and capable of responsible behavior than me.

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correspondent
contributing editor
journalist
'zine proprietress
pamphleteer
tumblor
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discipline posted:

birthright kids... hmm. well I didn't really spend a whole lot of time in the 48 which is where they mainly stay. I saw some groups in jerusalem and they were wide eyed little does huddled behind soldiers with big guns. they tell them when they go to the old city they're gonna get stabbed and whatever. max blumenthal can stomach tel aviv I guess, I've never spent more than 48 hours there



For an Israeli soldier, doing escort duty for Birthright Israel trips seems like it would be a nice gig. You could look and sound like Peter Lorre and High School and College girls would still be glomming on to your dick.

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discipline posted:

gyrofry posted:

could you translate any of the pflp/dflp theoretical stuff

yah sure but it would take a lot of my time. it's less than giant tomes of theory and more like a way of resisting. my friend just finished his phd on beit fureeq which is a pflp stronghold (pflp/dflp are most popular in rural areas) and he's supposed to send it to me. I actually have a book here a foot and a half away from me on leila khaled I wanted to get around to translating someday

make a compendium of letters and communiqués and kersplebebdeb will publish it

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gyrofry posted:

correspondent
contributing editor
journalist
'zine proprietress
pamphleteer
tumblor



Meh, I like journo more. Regardless of the term, living in palestine for a year or two does not make you a moralist and political scientist. Living there for twenty years doesn't do it. Rather, it gives you a basis to approach the authorities and bring to their attention the things you perceive as problematic. Morality and the political science are matters that need to be studied and PRACTICED in their own right.

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the name is "corey", fellas
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khammy i can read the squiggly lines now. look -> كوري hahaha!!
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Lykourgos posted:

Morality and the political science are matters that need to be studied and PRACTICED in their own right.



lol there is no "practicing" in american political science, or by that matter, anything of any real substance outside of raw political theory. there is a heavy dose of moralizing, however, due to the large influence of neoliberal ideology in the discipline as a whole. quite paradoxical, i'd say, given the desire of "science" to remain as "objective" as possible with regards to its subject matter.

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innsmouthful posted:

Lykourgos posted:

Morality and the political science are matters that need to be studied and PRACTICED in their own right.

lol there is no "practicing" in american political science, or by that matter, anything of any real substance outside of raw political theory. there is a heavy dose of moralizing, however, due to the large influence of neoliberal ideology in the discipline as a whole. quite paradoxical, i'd say, given the desire of "science" to remain as "objective" as possible with regards to its subject matter.



Who are you even responding to? People practice and study morality and the political science every day. I do so myself, as I am fortunate enough to have the relevant professional position and education. I'm not talking about american academics and taking political science classes at some dreadful american institution of ”higher” eduction, though. Liberal arts academia is a joke.

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Lykourgos posted:

innsmouthful posted:

Lykourgos posted:

Morality and the political science are matters that need to be studied and PRACTICED in their own right.

lol there is no "practicing" in american political science, or by that matter, anything of any real substance outside of raw political theory. there is a heavy dose of moralizing, however, due to the large influence of neoliberal ideology in the discipline as a whole. quite paradoxical, i'd say, given the desire of "science" to remain as "objective" as possible with regards to its subject matter.



Who are you even responding to? People practice and study morality and the political science every day. I do so myself, as I am fortunate enough to have the relevant professional position and education. I'm not talking about american academics and taking political science classes at some dreadful american institution of ”higher” eduction, though. Liberal arts academia is a joke.



lol, you can't just "practice" something you goof, you need to have a bunch of people who are more experienced, responsible, and mature tell you how to do it and the ways in which it is done

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corey posted:

khammy i can read the squiggly lines now. look -> كوري hahaha!!


that means 'blindness' in farsi (i think the spellin is rite). this might be relevant when iranian tanks liberate WB.

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allahu akbar. west berlin has suffered so long.
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innsmouthful posted:

Lykourgos posted:

innsmouthful posted:

Lykourgos posted:

Morality and the political science are matters that need to be studied and PRACTICED in their own right.

lol there is no "practicing" in american political science, or by that matter, anything of any real substance outside of raw political theory. there is a heavy dose of moralizing, however, due to the large influence of neoliberal ideology in the discipline as a whole. quite paradoxical, i'd say, given the desire of "science" to remain as "objective" as possible with regards to its subject matter.



Who are you even responding to? People practice and study morality and the political science every day. I do so myself, as I am fortunate enough to have the relevant professional position and education. I'm not talking about american academics and taking political science classes at some dreadful american institution of ”higher” eduction, though. Liberal arts academia is a joke.

lol, you can't just "practice" something you goof, you need to have a bunch of people who are more experienced, responsible, and mature tell you how to do it and the ways in which it is done



Well exactly, my office has hundreds of officials, and the elders do guide the junior officials. Gentlemen supporting each other in noble pursuits, practicing morality and the political science as each generation blossoms and fades in turn.

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And on the entrance to the office, a sign that reads: Let no one ignorant of blow enter here.