Spatial_Reasoning posted:roseweird posted:sanders pitches it purely as an abstract right and as an appeal to american desire for equal access to imperial spoils, without meaningful analysis of the material global conditions
Seriously, I don't get it
He does talk about surplus value and class power dynamics, which is absofuckinglutely heterodox economics here, and coincidentally literally chapter 1 of capital. What's the better framework of socialism in america? David Graeber? Revolutionary black people being put down by military hardware? Sad brain critical analysis reddit?
Yes, he is not handing out guns at blm rallies, he's not declared war against the military, and he appears to not be pro dictatorship. Will he withdraw from military bases in middle east? Not without a coup. He could do more and have bigger broader ambitions. But he could also do a lot with federal resources.
The guy calls out and denounces kissinger's policies by name, snubs the aipac fundraiser, says iraq was a lie, and that neoliberal trade leads to dickensian nighmares overseas re: tpp.
And literally put his body on the line for colonized black people.
All this is expressed as his policy and has been consistent with him, its not palliative hand waving.
what sanders thought is largely irrelevant since he lost and will either be be neutered in a hillary cabinet or be a stronger voice for the liberal left in congress.
glomper_stomper posted:
OWS stuff would be somewhat defensible if it was "well you try fitting actual marxist analysis onto a placard" but they don't even say that. they literally buy into the "we are the 99%" thing as if it were legit theory and not agit-prop.
glomper_stomper posted:Spatial_Reasoning posted:He does talk about surplus value and class power dynamics, which is absofuckinglutely heterodox economics here, and coincidentally literally chapter 1 of capital.
sanders absolutely didn't talk about surplus value or class power dynamics. in fact, the main obstacle to all this ows bullshit is the fact that no one espousing this shit can explain why the world is divided between the 1% and the 99%. they do not fundamentally understand the law of value nor exploitation nor the class structure of the capitalist mode of production in general. they don't even properly understand heterodox economics.
it's just bog-standard progressive liberal dissent.
also, chapter 1 of capital was about the production of use values.
lol