#161
It makes me so angry when people say, “We never hear from people who are happy doing child labor.” Well, that’s because they’re working. The activism privileges people who hated doing child labor, are no longer doing it, and have a job at a social service organization, for example, that trains them on how to speak to the media. We are hearing from those people quite a bit.
#162
*stands alone in world without jerry orbach* WHY AREN'T WE HEARING MORE FROM THE PEOPLE THAT LOVE THIS SHIT?
#163
people throw around the term 'empowerment' so loosely. i really dont think a lady having sex for money can be considered 'empowered' when compared to, say, he-man.
#164
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#165

Crow posted:

It makes me so angry when people say, “We never hear from people who are happy doing child labor.” Well, that’s because they’re working. The activism privileges people who hated doing child labor, are no longer doing it, and have a job at a social service organization, for example, that trains them on how to speak to the media. We are hearing from those people quite a bit.

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#166
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#167
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#168
Lol lookie me im a prostitute, or a john, or a brothel owner



LAW IS LAW
#169
#170

discipline posted:

oh and for the record: I think prostitution should be decriminalized, but I think that pimps and johns should get the chair



sincere question: why do you hate johns to the point of wishing death on them, but defend troops

#171

drwhat posted:

no one has any agency. luckily through communism we can fix them



exactly

#172

discipline posted:

To the pro-prostitution oppressors who continue to try to silence us I will say this: we are not fools who do not know what you are doing. We know exactly what you are doing; we know why you are doing it, and we also know that you are wasting your time. We have lived the demeaning, degrading violence that is prostitution – the same violence you tell the world is just ‘harmless consenting-adult fun’. You know that you can get away with telling much of the world that, because much of the world has not lived prostitution – but we have, and you know that we are engaged in accurately interpreting it and putting the truth of this oppression before the public, and that is exactly why you are so frightened of our voices. Every time you attack us you only put your own fear on display, and your enforced silence will never work on us; our days of being intimidated, coerced and compelled are over.



the social justice crowd sure likes to equate criticism and debate with being silenced. i assume its a result of being spoiled first world white people who can't handle the slightest bit of conflict healthily

#173
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#174
no. edit: congrats i just got fired from the discussing flaying and mounting my enemies factory
#175

discipline posted:

To the pro-prostitution oppressors who continue to try to silence us I will say this: we are not fools who do not know what you are doing. We know exactly what you are doing; we know why you are doing it, and we also know that you are wasting your time. We have lived the demeaning, degrading violence that is prostitution – the same violence you tell the world is just ‘harmless consenting-adult fun’. You know that you can get away with telling much of the world that, because much of the world has not lived prostitution – but we have, and you know that we are engaged in accurately interpreting it and putting the truth of this oppression before the public, and that is exactly why you are so frightened of our voices. Every time you attack us you only put your own fear on display, and your enforced silence will never work on us; our days of being intimidated, coerced and compelled are over.

this is cool but it does sort of sound like Taken

#176

StalinsBoyToy posted:

MadMedico posted:
Her point that anti-prostitution feminists ignore the actual experiences and opinions of sex workers.


The experiences of people who lack class consciousness is irrevocably tainted by their failure to understand of power structures.

A woman who "chooses" to shave her genital area is choosing to do so because of social expectation to do so, mostly coming from male consumers of porn. They are choosing to self modify to meet the expectations of a dominant culture. This makes their choice forced. For the same reason, anyone who picks up women at a bar is a rapist.

This applies to class as well. No one chooses to be a garbage man, but they may self rationalize that "choice" in the same way that a prostitute or stripper might.

Basically the lady writing this article is reactionary scum, a purveyor of rape culture and by the transitive property of rape, a rapist herself.

what's wrong with being a garbage man

#177

elias posted:

what's wrong with being a garbage man

other than the violence (to nature and humanity) inherent in it?

#178
#179
what does your dissertation have to do with this thread, goatshtein
#180

getfiscal posted:

discipline posted:

To the pro-prostitution oppressors who continue to try to silence us I will say this: we are not fools who do not know what you are doing. We know exactly what you are doing; we know why you are doing it, and we also know that you are wasting your time. We have lived the demeaning, degrading violence that is prostitution – the same violence you tell the world is just ‘harmless consenting-adult fun’. You know that you can get away with telling much of the world that, because much of the world has not lived prostitution – but we have, and you know that we are engaged in accurately interpreting it and putting the truth of this oppression before the public, and that is exactly why you are so frightened of our voices. Every time you attack us you only put your own fear on display, and your enforced silence will never work on us; our days of being intimidated, coerced and compelled are over.

this is cool but it does sort of sound like Taken

Excellent film

#181
i would post my own thread but they said no more porno threads.
#182
a woman on a busy downtown corner was brutally object-ified today. two hours after being called to the scene ambulance crews were still picking up parts of her, say it's the worst case they've seen in over 15 years on the job. no reports yet on whether she can be made whole again
#183
before anyone gets offended im making fun of feminist philosophy, not violence against women OKAY
#184

swirlsofhistory posted:

before anyone gets offended im making fun of feminist philosophy, not violence against women OKAY



whats the difference

#185

Crow posted:

swirlsofhistory posted:

before anyone gets offended im making fun of feminist philosophy, not violence against women OKAY



whats the difference


no one gets turned on by epistemic violence

#186
#187
the maoist internationalist movement had a period where they were like yup we've concluded that all sex is rape (which is obviously true). so like they started discussing what that would actually mean for themselves. and some maoist groups took the correct position, which is that revolutionaries should never have sex, ever, which is something i live by. but MIM was like umm lol no... no... okay... our position is that all sex is rape, but, like, some rape is okay, if you keep it monogamous. which is like animal farm level reasoning, which is about par for course for sexhavers.
#188

getfiscal posted:

the maoist internationalist movement had a period where they were like yup we've concluded that all sex is rape (which is obviously true). so like they started discussing what that would actually mean for themselves. and some maoist groups took the correct position, which is that revolutionaries should never have sex, ever, which is something i live by. but MIM was like umm lol no... no... okay... our position is that all sex is rape, but, like, some rape is okay, if you keep it monogamous. which is like animal farm level reasoning, which is about par for course for sexhavers.


#189

getfiscal posted:

discipline posted:

To the pro-prostitution oppressors who continue to try to silence us I will say this: we are not fools who do not know what you are doing. We know exactly what you are doing; we know why you are doing it, and we also know that you are wasting your time. We have lived the demeaning, degrading violence that is prostitution – the same violence you tell the world is just ‘harmless consenting-adult fun’. You know that you can get away with telling much of the world that, because much of the world has not lived prostitution – but we have, and you know that we are engaged in accurately interpreting it and putting the truth of this oppression before the public, and that is exactly why you are so frightened of our voices. Every time you attack us you only put your own fear on display, and your enforced silence will never work on us; our days of being intimidated, coerced and compelled are over.

this is cool but it does sort of sound like Taken
I was thinking more of the Lee Marvin film Prime Cut

#190
it also sounds like v for vendetta. like a bunch of women are going to show up in guy fawkes masks and blow up the playboy mansion. which would be pretty metal.
#191
leave it to the San Fernando Valley to take all the romance and mystery out of Pee and Take Pee
#192
remember in taxi driver where robert deniro says "I believe that one should become a person like other people " and later he kills a pimp and some other people. that was kool.
#193

Goethestein posted:

pornchart.jpg


There are some gaps in the data though, like which family members molested them, what prescription drug addictions they're doing porn to pay for. It also fails to mention that you're average pornstar has more PTSD than a troop who has served in Iraq or Afghanistan.

#194

MadMedico posted:

average pornstar has more PTSD than a troop who has served in Iraq or Afghanistan.

hear that ladies, it's either handjobs or hajjis.

#195
IUDs or IEDs, your choice gals
#196

MadMedico posted:

Goethestein posted:

pornchart.jpg

There are some gaps in the data though, like which family members molested them, what prescription drug addictions they're doing porn to pay for. It also fails to mention that you're average pornstar has more PTSD than a troop who has served in Iraq or Afghanistan.



source

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#198
what is the best way to ensure prostitutes murder their johns
#199

Goethestein posted:

discipline posted:

how about focusing on men? 99.99.99,99.99% of johns are men

oh come on, there's only 70 women in the whole world who have ever paid for sex? fly away troll

indeed, my recent screening of 'midnight cowboy' suggests this figure is wildly off the mark

#200
i like stoya's tumblr